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Damn! Robert Mueller is laying an egg! (Original Post) Baitball Blogger May 2019 OP
"Not my job" C_U_L8R May 2019 #1
We need to pay attention, because this is the Republican way of evading justice for their Baitball Blogger May 2019 #3
THIS DonCoquixote May 2019 #32
It's Fitzmas! procon May 2019 #2
+1, to tell congress to subpoena him cause he said he wont say anything different in front of congre uponit7771 May 2019 #4
He's running away, so, not a patriot afterall. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #6
He's saying don't bother me anymore. I am done. I Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #7
maybe he is being threatened. bdamomma May 2019 #17
He's telling Congress they need to impeach. gldstwmn May 2019 #19
the point was to say i'm done, do what you want but don't bother me. unblock May 2019 #35
"If we had confidence the President did not commit a crime, we would have said so" spanone May 2019 #5
Yes, but he's putting the load on the House. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #8
It is the House's constitutional responsibility to carry that load. Caliman73 May 2019 #21
He is clearly mistaken. If it is not the job of the Justice Department LiberalFighter May 2019 #27
He did not say that. Caliman73 May 2019 #49
There is nothing in the Constitution that supports DOJ policy. LiberalFighter May 2019 #53
He is however bound and restricted by the policy since he was working under the DoJ. He Maru Kitteh May 2019 #55
It is ambiguous and subject to interpretation Caliman73 May 2019 #58
Let's make tshirts now! Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #10
Amen! spanone May 2019 #12
Egads!!! This is a cluster f. And we are the cluster. LakeArenal May 2019 #33
Lol. Hey Clusterhead! :) Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #51
Nope. He is angry at tRump & has gone as far as the law allows. Basicly said "Impeach him then indic Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #9
Indict post term? Would we need our own ag Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #13
Yup. Got to win 2020 even if tRump not there. He might not be. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #26
Come on, is anyone really surprised by this travesty? ADX May 2019 #11
He basically said that Trump would be prosecuted for obstruction, IF he wasn't president. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #16
Yeah, "IF" is the biggest word in the dictionary... ADX May 2019 #38
Far cry from Comey inserting all those personal Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #20
Right... ADX May 2019 #42
Yep. Watching fox taped. You can tell they are Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #57
I didn't hear it that way? kentuck May 2019 #14
Nope. You heard right K Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #22
We needed something more to get the House moving, and he failed to add anything Baitball Blogger May 2019 #28
I'm with you. Mueller said as clearly as he could: "Wake up citizens! You gotta imeach 1st, then Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #31
Yep. kentuck May 2019 #40
Wimped out. Told us absolutely nothing that was not in Barr's 4 page letter, providing cover for Hoyt May 2019 #15
You keep repeating the same allegation. LanternWaste May 2019 #41
Read Barr's letter -- Russia interfered, Muellers' team could not indict or exonerate trump. Hoyt May 2019 #47
Interesting body language. There were a lot of statements either didn't agree with or knew were lies Doremus May 2019 #18
I actually thought he was gonna cry...he seemed Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #23
Yes I noticed immediately. He seem stilted. He was not himself. triron May 2019 #46
Is impeachment in the egg? Tommy_Carcetti May 2019 #24
I don't think so Sunsky May 2019 #25
Look, those on DU will look hard to twist what he said to meet the objectives we're looking for, Baitball Blogger May 2019 #29
Mueller statement wasn't made to convince anyone. Sunsky May 2019 #39
Nancy Pelosi moves only when information goes beyond a reasonable doubt. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #44
This Democrat loves to exercise her freedom of thought Sunsky May 2019 #50
I'm am getting the same feedback from my family, friends, colleagues. Nevermypresident May 2019 #54
+1 Baitball Blogger May 2019 #59
Same $hit we all already know inwiththenew May 2019 #30
Right. He didn't say anything that would convince Trump supporters. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #34
As usual... Very disappointing LakeArenal May 2019 #36
The Trumpsters are toast. Greybnk48 May 2019 #37
An egg can hatch into a golden goose with proper incubation. bluedigger May 2019 #43
Let's hope. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #45
Did anyone else hear Mueller say that... WyattKansas May 2019 #48
The House is going to have to find some way to find its will and enforce its powers of Baitball Blogger May 2019 #56
Seriously? tavernier May 2019 #52

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
3. We need to pay attention, because this is the Republican way of evading justice for their
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:12 AM
May 2019

own kind.

They sit on positions of decision-making, do an incompetent job, and walk off after throwing the mic down.

Democrats will have to find their balls.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
32. THIS
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:25 AM
May 2019

and i dare say, they are aided by many so called "moderates" who realize that their asses were complicit. Media types, that was aimed at you, though not only you.

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. It's Fitzmas!
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:12 AM
May 2019

He's basically just reading selected lines from his own report.

So what was the point if this ?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
4. +1, to tell congress to subpoena him cause he said he wont say anything different in front of congre
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. He's saying don't bother me anymore. I am done. I
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019

Won't speak any more. He sure seemed very nervous.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
17. maybe he is being threatened.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

or may be he should just retire from the Justice Dept. and be a private citizen.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
19. He's telling Congress they need to impeach.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:17 AM
May 2019

And now I know that what Wolff wrote in his book was true. Jesus.

unblock

(52,209 posts)
35. the point was to say i'm done, do what you want but don't bother me.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:26 AM
May 2019

i wash my hands of these proceedings.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
8. Yes, but he's putting the load on the House.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:14 AM
May 2019

We're fucked. We need Republicans to do the patriotic thing.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
21. It is the House's constitutional responsibility to carry that load.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:19 AM
May 2019

He said very clearly that it was not the job of the Department of Justice to indict the president. It is the oversight responsibility of specifically the House, but also the Senate. The House needs to continue investigations, get access to the unredacted report, then to the underlying evidence that informed the report. They need to question investigators and expose all of the dirt that Trump actually did. As the public hears more and more, the pressure will be on the Senate to do their job and if they don't they will pay a price.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
27. He is clearly mistaken. If it is not the job of the Justice Department
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:22 AM
May 2019

to investigate and charge crimes then what is the point of the Justice Department?

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
49. He did not say that.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019

He said that it wasn't possible to do so against a sitting president. He clearly stated that if there was nothing there he would have said so. He was bound by the policy which is presumably supported by the Constitution, to not make recommendations but to lay out the information to Congress, who takes the information and decides to impeach or let things go.

This is exactly what happened during Watergate. The AGs wrote the report and gave it to Congress. Then you have the asshole Ken Starr who did not follow due process and released the report to the public for clearly political reasons and dishonored the office of the Special Counsel.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
55. He is however bound and restricted by the policy since he was working under the DoJ. He
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:06 PM
May 2019

did not have an option, independently, to work outside of that policy.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
11. Come on, is anyone really surprised by this travesty?
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:14 AM
May 2019

...The best clue that this was going to be a big bunch of nothingness came when the AG/White House approved/allowed him to make this bullshit statement in the first place...

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
16. He basically said that Trump would be prosecuted for obstruction, IF he wasn't president.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

Where does that leave us? The House must act or Trump gets away with it because Trump owns the Feds.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
38. Yeah, "IF" is the biggest word in the dictionary...
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:32 AM
May 2019

...We can only hope that the House Democrats stay on Chump like stink on shit and hound his ass up until the very last second he leaves or is kicked out of office...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Far cry from Comey inserting all those personal
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:19 AM
May 2019

Opinions like Hillary was a sloppy record keeper. She was not charged with anything. Maybe someone on the team will speak out or leak

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
42. Right...
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

...He didn't say shit we haven't heard before and I'd bet a dollar to a donut that no one on the SP team leaks a damn thing. Apart from Chump tweeting, screeching, and taking a victory lap, it's a wrap at this point and our only hope lies with the House dems...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
57. Yep. Watching fox taped. You can tell they are
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:24 PM
May 2019

Moving toward the mantra...nothing new. Amazing how people can choose to ignore what their guy does.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
31. I'm with you. Mueller said as clearly as he could: "Wake up citizens! You gotta imeach 1st, then
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

Then indict.

Folks, read his last sentence again; something like "The Russians interfered with our elections. This is something all US citizens should take seriously."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. Wimped out. Told us absolutely nothing that was not in Barr's 4 page letter, providing cover for
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

trump and Barr.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. You keep repeating the same allegation.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

yet fail to support that allegation with any meaningful evidence of such.

(FYI: nuance doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, not context on a t-shirt slogan)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
47. Read Barr's letter -- Russia interfered, Muellers' team could not indict or exonerate trump.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:44 AM
May 2019

It's all there.

Didn't think I needed to provide a citation. But since you appear to need it, here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/24/us/politics/barr-letter-mueller-report.html

It says:

--Russia interferred in election,
--Mueller could not indict trump because of policy,
--Mueller's investigation could not "exonerate trump" on Obstruction.

All of that is in Barr's letter from March 24, 2019. That letter did not spur Congress to act, why do you think Muellers BS today will?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
24. Is impeachment in the egg?
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:21 AM
May 2019

That's what I seemed to gain of it.

He basically just restated his report in verbal form.

The report does not exonerate Trump, so.....

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
29. Look, those on DU will look hard to twist what he said to meet the objectives we're looking for,
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

but nothing he said will convince the people we need to get on our side.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
39. Mueller statement wasn't made to convince anyone.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:33 AM
May 2019

He did his investigation, he gave a detailed report. He is telling Congress to do it's job. The ball is in their court now. Stop using Mueller as excuse to stall.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
44. Nancy Pelosi moves only when information goes beyond a reasonable doubt.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:39 AM
May 2019

Last edited Wed May 29, 2019, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't think Mueller moved the marker farther than where it is today. IF he had added more information about the unredacted parts of the report, that might have helped. But, he didn't.

I'm not trying to stop impeachment. Quite the opposite. I'm frustrated.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
50. This Democrat loves to exercise her freedom of thought
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:59 AM
May 2019

Nancy Pelosi isn't always right. IMO she is wrong with not calling for impeachment hearings immediately after the redacted Mueller report was released. We don't need beyond a reasonable doubt to have hearings. Some of us are tired of the excuses. Most of the people I speak with, believe that the Democrats are powerless against Trump. We have to change that perception.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
54. I'm am getting the same feedback from my family, friends, colleagues.
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:05 PM
May 2019

It's time, irregardless of what the Senate does.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
30. Same $hit we all already know
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

They can't prove he did commit a crime but they also can't prove he didn't. Gee thanks. I'm not sure why we needed this press conference to rehash this.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
37. The Trumpsters are toast.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019

Obstruction, illegal coordination with the Russians, whole Trump crime family is corrupt and guilty of criminal activity, as are all of those in his close "orbit."

IMPEACH NOW!

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
48. Did anyone else hear Mueller say that...
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019

He was also very limited on investigating Trump and how far they investigated him by regulations and policy?

If so, that alone is a ticking time bomb for Trump.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
56. The House is going to have to find some way to find its will and enforce its powers of
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:23 PM
May 2019

investigation. Because it's clear now, the Republicans are not going to help.

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