Mueller just nailed the Con's ass

[malaise]

He also said Barr misrepresented his report.

Just watch the responses from the Con and his goons.
ITTMF!!

[BlueJac]

1. I am looking forward to his goon squad...

led by Rudy

[Marcuse]

6. !

[link:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/445963-giuliani-slams-mueller-statement|

[SWBTATTReg]

2. And we all knew it too. Barr didn't do anything but obstruct the truth from the American people...

I hope perhaps Congress will impeach Barr as he deserves so much, if anything, for misleading Congress and the American people with his faked summaries of Mueller's report.

[malaise]

3. I want Barr to be disbarred

THey can also impeach him but he is a disgrace to the legal profession

[SWBTATTReg]

4. You nailed it! nt

[malaise]

11. Nadler on now tearing the Con a new one

Russia attacked our political system
The Con benefited from the attack
The Con obstructed justice

The report did not exonerate the Con

This is great - Go Nadler

[SWBTATTReg]

15. Wonderful! I can already see the new election signs, 'throw the thug out of office', ...

'throw the unindicted defendant 1' out of office, etc. (I can't come up w/ anything fancy now at the moment, but you get the gist of it). This needs to be hammered again and again against the idiot in chief, who's proved his incompetence many times over.

His supporters in the senate and elsewhere need to be nailed too, for supporting basically a crook. Plain and simple. They need to be asked why they are supporting a crook in office? Why won't you let the American people look at rump's tax returns, rump's financial papers, etc.? What do you have to hide?

If one sees one cockroach come out from underneath a rock, chances are they are loads more cockroaches. Wonder what other crap rump has under his rocks?

Take care Malaise!

[emmaverybo]

52. Love him. He's so utterly sober and sobering when he speaks. Good post. Thanks.

[bdamomma]

5. he's a sneaky

POS I hope he goes down too.

[Iliyah]

7. Barr is in trouble also . . .

I know the Republican senate and those in the house are going to defend them to the hiltz with lies lies and Barr will distort the IC classified documents, but alas, for over two years now, all this administration have done, t-rump have done, and the Republicans have done is lie to the American people.

Cheat, steal, suppress . . .

[SWBTATTReg]

12. Really. All they have left is lying, cheating, stealing, etc. Scumbags don't have anything ...

else in their playbooks so they have to resort to these type of tactics. Won't work anymore since everyone is aware of their tactics and once used, won't work again. People are going to be hyper alert to any negative crap coming out about any democratic candidates and also, rump has used up his brownie points with way too many tweets, no one's paying attention to him any longer. I just hope rump doesn't go nuts, but sorry to say I think he will do something stupid...just wait (that it, beyond his normal stupid doings).

[SunSeeker]

8. I wish Mueller had said Barr misrepresented his report.

Instead, what people will take away from his statement is that Barr acted in "good faith."

Here's what Mueller actually said re Barr:

We conducted an independent criminal investigation and reported the results to the Attorney General—as required by Department regulations.

The Attorney General then concluded that it was appropriate to provide our report to Congress and the American people.

At one point in time I requested that certain portions of the report be released. The Attorney General preferred to make the entire report public all at once. We appreciate that the Attorney General made the report largely public. I do not question the Attorney General’s good faith in that decision.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/mueller-statement-read-special-counsel-s-full-remarks-n1011351

To suggest that ANYTHING Barr did in the process was in "good faith" is a damn lie. I think Mueller lied when he said Barr released the report in good faith. And there was nothing in the Report about Barr. So much for Mueller 's vow not to say anything that isn't in the report!

[ZZenith]

14. I am reading that statement differently.

“I do not question the Attorney General’s good faith in that decision” implies that he questions his good faith in other decisions.

[Skittles]

17. I very much doubt Barr makes ANY decisions "in good faith"

he is a repuke hack

[ZZenith]

18. Indeed, but I very much doubt that Robert Mueller is the kind of man

who would state that so plainly. By pointing out this one instance he implies there are others where Barr didn’t act in good faith.

[Skittles]

19. I find it disappointing

No doubt Mueller is trying to be diplomatic but I think times like this require much more courage.

[SunSeeker]

21. +1

[ZZenith]

22. I wholeheartedly agree.

Wisdom includes knowing when to throw out the rule book, but he’s clearly trying to inoculate himself against the inevitable charges of impropriety.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Mueller is not doing what he could be doing, as far as I am concerned, MORE concerned about

answering politically charged questions than SAVING US FROM FASCISM?

I misjudged him, I thought he would not do this

fuck this

Did BARR shut you DOWN? You wont even answer THAT question?




Did he prevent you from indicting anyone?

[Skittles]

28. he's leaving it up to Democrats to do the right thing

he's bowing out

[Eliot Rosewater]

30. I want those fucking questions answered GOD DAMMIT, i want to know if BARR shut him down

or prevented him from indictments

[ZZenith]

32. He's answered the second part of your question already.

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. He answered about wanting to indict ANY other person and being from prevented?

ANY other person?

[ZZenith]

37. He could not proceed because he was obstructed.

It’s all pretty clear if you take the time to parse what’s been said.

The legal profession rarely speaks in plain English.

[Eliot Rosewater]

38. That comes in two parts, did he not indict someone because everyone would lie, that is one

question and did you not indict someone because BARR stopped you?

We are in a state of constitutional crisis and the guy who knows more than anyone else about what happened says he aint talking

bullshit

It is NOT all in the report, NOT if we cant SEE the whole thing and surely not what Barr or whitaker did and probably conversations with others

[ZZenith]

39. You would no doubt be happier if the man overstepped his boundaries

but he’s refrained from doing so and it’s to his credit, as much as I wish things were different.

Shall we not abide by the prescribed rules in order to bring to justice those who have refused to abide by the rules?

The man has come out and made it clear that he’s gone as far as his station has allowed him to. Direct your anger at those who now hesitate to pick up the baton.

[SunSeeker]

47. No rules precluded Mueller from stating Trump committed a crime.

Mueller was only precluded from INDICTING Trump by DOJ policy. He was hired to determine if any crimes were committed by the Trump campaign with regard to the Russian attack on our democracy. He did so with respect to everyone in tge campaign except for Trump. He chickened out when it came to Trump, and used the exvuse that he did not think it would be "fair" to Trump to state that he committed a crime, since he wasn't bring an indictment.

[ZZenith]

49. You don't seem to understand how our legal system works.

I am glad others do.

In no universe was the special prosecutor going to stand at the podium today and shout, “J’accuse...!”

It would not be in your best interest had he done so.

[Eliot Rosewater]

58. Then why did ALL former people in his place testify?

[ZZenith]

59. No one has ever been in his place.

We are at a unique juncture in our history. Robert Mueller has done what was asked of him and has done everything within the scope of his legal power to move the case along to its next proper step.

Why you are wasting time here on this thread and not calling the Speaker of the House’s office demanding impeachment is a mystery to me.

[Eliot Rosewater]

67. I dont like to BASH Democrats.

Which is what a lot of this is about, some folks are sincere, some are not, some are using this opportunity to once again BASH democrats.

[ZZenith]

68. Wanting Democrats to exercise their only remaining remedy

to curb an out-of-control wannabe dictator could be misconstrued as “bashing” them, I can see that.

[uponit7771]

51. +1, both questions need to be asked and or confirmed

[Skittles]

56. me too

it is extremely disconcerting

[True Blue American]

29. A

Bless your heart moment on the part of Mueller.

[ZZenith]

50. Exactly.

[elleng]

34. Right, he (and WE) sure as hell SHOULD question barr's 'good faith.'

[Mr.Bill]

41. This is a lie.

The entire report has not been made public. Only what Barr wants to be made public. There are people in Congress with high enough security clearances to see the entire unredacted report. Until that happens evidence is being withheld from Congress.

[SunSeeker]

44. Exactly. nt

[csziggy]

42. WTF?! "The Attorney General preferred to make the entire report public all at once."

No, the AG has NOT released the "entire report" - he released selected parts and left out big chunks of it.

[SunSeeker]

43. And, unlike Ken Starr, is refusing to release the grand jury materials!

That is a treasure trove of evidence the House could never recreate through their hearings.

[csziggy]

46. Exactly!

Congress needs the complete, unredacted report. If the House went to Impeachment Hearings, they would have the clout to require this material - and if they don't get it, enforce contempt on everyone involved.

This scattershot set of committees does not have the impact that impeachment investigations would have.

Sorry I'm not clearer today - got prep for a new crown and I'm still a little woozy.

[emmaverybo]

55. He won't do that. You want him to do the work the aware public and the House needs to do. If he

did your bidding, bashed Barr, spit directly in Trump’s eye, stepped put of his professional role to attack the current administration, he’d be seen as partisan, his and team member’s work, tireless work tainted, and quite possibly cases overturned, evidence disputed. Just more muddle and chaos and division among Americans.

[SunSeeker]

60. I don't want him to do "my bidding." I wanted him to do his job.

Or at least stop bending over backwards for Trump and Barr.

I don't want him to engage in an "unprofessional attack" on the current administration. I want him to state what he found. I want him to state what he was hired to determine and which he so obviously found but does not have the courage to say, namely, that TRUMP COMMITTED CRIMES.

[emmaverybo]

62. He just bent over backwards when he broke DOJ protocol by discussing the subject of an

investigation who has not been indicted. Read Alan Dershowitz’s column on Mueller’s misconduct today.

[SunSeeker]

63. Mueller is a SPECIAL COUNSEL--required by law to write a report and "discuss the subject."

The DOJ/Barr released a redacted version of Mueller's report TO THE PUBLIC. Did Dershowitz object to that when it was released?
All Mueller said today about Trump was what was IN THE REPORT.

Please do not repeat Dershowitz' bullshit argument here as if it is valid.

[emmaverybo]

64. Dershowitz is not credible, but a shill. If you had the time and care to read what he said, or if

you had done your homework about DOJ protocol and the special prosecutor’s role, you would see that Dershowitz’s complaints reveals in what way Mueller parted with that established protocol today.

[SunSeeker]

66. Dershowitz is sucking up to Trump for a SCOTUS appointment.

His Hill opinion piece is a pile of twisted shit. I have done my homework. Please stop insulting me. Dershowitz misleadingly uses the term special counsel and prosecutor as if they are the same thing. They are not.

Dershowitz' complaints don't "reveal" anything but his craven dishonesty. Mueller's statement today did not "part from established protocol" for a Special Counsel. His comments regarding Trump were merely repeated snippets, word for word, of the publicly released portions of his report, a report that he was required by law to write, unlike a normal prosecutor.

[Beringia]

9. I looked over at Free Republic

They think Mueller is a traitor for not clearing Trump. They don't even mention the stolen election by the Russians.

[MoonRiver]

10. I agree!

A few more dominos fall.

[highplainsdem]

13. Yep. And Giuliani and Dershowitz are already bitching about it. I've posted a couple of

threads with their reactions.

[malaise]

20. LOL

[Generic Other]

23. I swear I will break Photoshop today!

[malaise]

24. We know the truth

Time for punishment

[Generic Other]

25. Yep

[malaise]

57. We should make that viral

Too good

[PoliticAverse]

26. Actually Mueller just reminded people that that is Congress' job. n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. Is it congress' job to find out if Barr shut him down prematlurely when Barr wont go before

congress or tell the fucking truth, ever?

No, it is MUELLER's job to tell us.

[malaise]

33. I agree with that part

Was the Mueller investigation shut down?

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. I can think of a shit ton of questions to ask Mueller about what Barr did, Whitaker, about

the redacted part of the report etc.

This is bullshit, he MUST testify about ANYTHING our representatives want to ask him, he works FOR US!

[BigmanPigman]

40. That issue alone is enough to hear Mueller's testimony.

It is a BIG issue too! We must know and ASAP!

[sop]

45. When Trump finally realizes the full import of Mueller's damning statement today,

and he can no longer continue tweeting stupid shit proclaiming "no collusion!, no obstruction!" and "the case is closed," he'll probably start viciously attacking Mueller and his "17 angry Democrats" on twitter.

Mueller has been very circumspect up to this point, but he might see things differently after he's attacked by Trump and his henchmen on FOX News and social media. Call me crazy, but Mueller doesn't seem like the kind of guy Trump should f**k with.

[malaise]

48. True but the public will begin realizing the full import of this report on

tonight's evening news and that's even worse for the Con.

It is the people who will discover the Barr/Con lies.
Mueller on tape carries lots of weight.
I agree with you - the Con should be wary of both Mueller and the folks he and his goons including Barr lied to big time.
Truth will out!!
I like what Mueller did today particularly the short notice about his press briefing.
Forget not that Barr is in Alaska - bet he was caught off guard.

[emmaverybo]

65. Thanks Mueller. Once again, as Kamala Harris says, he did his duty. nt

[Bonx]

53. Trump's goose is cooked this time

[malaise]

54. They were totally unprepared for this one

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[mcar]

61. He did indeed