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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlan Dershowitz is throwing a fit about Mueller's presser. He clearly understood
how bad it was for Trump. If this Trump-apologist is so unhappy, that's good news for people who care about the truth.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/445983-dershowitz-shame-on-robert-mueller-for-exceeding-his-role
Dershowitz: Shame on Robert Mueller for exceeding his role
grumpyduck
(6,272 posts)malaise
(269,219 posts)Fling a stone in a hog pen - who bawl get lick
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)but I like yours better.
malaise
(269,219 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)know the saying - but DAMN, that one says it all!
oldlibdem
(330 posts)what does "Fling a stone in a hog pen - who bawl get lick" mean? Thanks.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)Here 'ya go:
there's a pen (where they keep hogs) and you walk up and throw a stone.
It hits one.
It squeals (or, "who bawl" !!!!!!
THAT is the one who "get lick."
MEANING:
If you make a statement accusing someone of something, and THAT is the one that complains, BINGO, there's your guilty one!
In defense of questioning the quote, it is SO DAMNED HARD to figure just which one is guilty in this administration!
malaise
(269,219 posts)oldlibdem
(330 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)the one that squeals is the one you hit. So if someone is complaining about something it means you "hit" them.
dem4decades
(11,307 posts)11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)genxlib
(5,544 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)Does IQ45 know how to surround himself with "the best of the best" or what!"
And that's who's leading our national leader as he leads our nation?
BootinUp
(47,201 posts)barbtries
(28,813 posts)someone should tell him to read the report. to my knowledge Mueller said nothing that is not in there.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)"What happened to you ?"
barbtries
(28,813 posts)i'm thinking it's some kind of kompromat. wasn't he involved with epstein too?
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Dershowitz points that put. By DOJ rules, if no indictment, no statements about the investigation subject. So Mueller has gone over and beyond.
Baitball Blogger
(46,769 posts)OnDoutside
(19,982 posts)Takket
(21,644 posts)And the answer to that question is: yes.
Kid Berwyn
(14,992 posts)pnwmom
(109,009 posts)And that kind of accusation might be why. He's been caught up with some R's involved in the same thing.
Kid Berwyn
(14,992 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)blue-wave
(4,368 posts)Is that Dershowitz is calling Mueller a patriot.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)Moral Compass
(1,527 posts)Dershowitz is completely in thrall to Trump. He knows that if he fails to vigorously defend his lord that he can expect certain things about underage girls and rape and what Trump and Epstein knows he did...to leak out.
That he is this craven and this compromised astounds me. It is hard to watch the complete dissolution of a man that had standing and respect from both sides.
Now Dershowitz is no better than Dinesh Dsouza, Sean Hannity, Rudy Giuliani, Rush, Glen Beck etc.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He was never overly admired for his integrity, but he's one of a number who've astonished those who knew them by seemingly undergoing dramatic personality and behavior changes.
WHY would he be "in thrall to" Trump? Or would it be to agents of Putin, one of our own wannabe kleptocrats, McConnell, whoever? Whatever. This came out and Dershowitz, and others, went to work.
Oh, speaking of others, here're a pair of Lindsay Graham quotes from the announcement of Jaime Harrison, the former chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, that he's running for Graham's seat.
Hes a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot. Before election.
No, I dont think hes a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot, ... deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and then some. After.
Harrison is also a former aide to SC's senior Democratic Rep. James Clyburn.
Go, Harrison!
Marcuse
(7,530 posts)pnwmom
(109,009 posts)and just offered his own conclusions.
But he's the same rule-following Marine he's always been. His greatest strength and his greatest weakness, depending on the situation.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)Kissing Donnie's ass as hard as can be.
Mr. Evil
(2,856 posts)We are becoming farther and farther away from having something resembling a decent and more equitable society that we may never be able to recover enough to begin to work toward that goal. With our corporate controlled media always allowing the depraved and 'detached from reality' republicans to control the narrative, I don't see for the foreseeable future any positive outcome.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)Once he was a well-respected civil rights lawyer; now he's just a washed-up old has-been like Giuliani who has hitched his wagon to the wrong horse.
patphil
(6,230 posts)He would have had to wait for Barr to get his fat ass off the scale first.
Actually, I thought Mueller was way deep into non-partisan territory.
Dershowitz, on the other hand (or should I say thumb), is extremely partisan, and always has been.
Patrick Phillips
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)for betraying the USA. That's why Dershy is having a hissy.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)He was instructed to investigate, not just prosecute. His primary role was to find out what happened. Prosecution was only a secondary task. The government is not required to do only what Mr Dershowitz thinks they should do. It is free to walk and chew gum at the same time.
sop
(10,274 posts)Trump's initial reaction was to insanely proclaim Mueller's statement fully cleared him, but once he figures out this bit of gaslighting isn't working, the twitter attacks on Mueller will begin in earnest. By Friday Trump will be calling for Mueller's arrest.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)paleotn
(17,989 posts)You're talking out of your arse once again.
spanone
(135,900 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Special Counsel authorized us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation. We conducted that investigation and we kept the office of the Acting Attorney General apprised of the progress of our work. As set forth in our report, after that investigation, if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the President did commit a crime. The introduction to volume two of our report explains that decision ...The Special Counsels Office is part of the Department of Justice and, by regulation, it was bound by that Department policy. Charging the President with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider ... And beyond Department policy, we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of an actual charge. So that was the Justice Department policy and those were the principles under which we operated. From them we concluded that we would not reach a determination one way or the other about whether the President committed a crime. That is the offices final position and we will not comment on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the President ..."
Mueller's full remarks
Coming up next: Dershowitz stamps foot, promises to hold breath and turn blue! Oh, dear! What if somebody rolls their eyes at him?
gordianot
(15,247 posts)I cannot remember who said that but it comes to mind whenever I see or hear Dershowitz name. I wonder if he is available to defend Trump?
panfluteman
(2,073 posts)putting your thumb or elbow on the scales of justice? Then what exactly does justice look like to him? And what is treason and corruption??? We here at DU overwhelmingly feel that Mueller didn't go far enough. Regardless of which side you're on politically, or what judgment you consider to be "partisan" or "just", the sobering truth that Robert Mueller left us with is that we need to improve our election security in the interests of our national sovereignty and security - which transcends Democrat or Republican. Ultimately, if we are to survive as a free and independent nation, we must have confidence that we ourselves are choosing our own leaders.
comradebillyboy
(10,178 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)"Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan."
Uh...B-U-L-L S-H-I-T, Alan!
(I watch Fox so you don't have to)
EVERY SINGLE TIME Dershowitz has appeared on Hannity, it was to soften the ground to discredit Mueller's report. If I had a dollar for every time he said "I'm worried Mueller will produce a report that lists SINS and not CRIMES..." in his little munchkin voice. Dershowitz is not reversing his position. He's always had the SAME position. (ie-with his head right up Trump's colon.)
SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)Didn't Dershowitz read the report?
Tarc
(10,478 posts)when all that comes to light. Mueller and Trump should be the least on the old boy's mind right now,
catbyte
(34,485 posts)One of my favorite quotes.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Because, um,... he's a card carrying Republican.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Submariner
(12,511 posts)by the Liberals he says are his friends.