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Wed May 29, 2019, 04:21 PM

Israel will hold unprecedented second election after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fails to form

BREAKING: Israelís parliament voted to dissolve itself early Thursday after Netanyahu failed to form a government ahead of a midnight deadline, despite his Likud party winning the largest number of seats in April 9 elections. The move prevents Israelís president from being able to call on an alternative candidate to attempt to form a government.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/prospect-of-new-israeli-vote-looms-as-netanyahu-struggles-with-coalition/2019/05/29/9155b71a-8171-11e9-b585-e36b16a531aa_story.html?utm_term=.31f04ea24735

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Reply Israel will hold unprecedented second election after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fails to form (Original post)
octoberlib May 2019 OP
Scurrilous May 2019 #1
walkingman May 2019 #2
tritsofme May 2019 #3
babylonsister May 2019 #4
superpatriotman May 2019 #5
malaise May 2019 #6
Kurt V. May 2019 #7
gratuitous May 2019 #8
Celerity May 2019 #9
UTUSN May 2019 #10
TomSlick May 2019 #11
Blue_true May 2019 #14
TomSlick May 2019 #15
Blue_true May 2019 #16
TomSlick May 2019 #18
Blue_true May 2019 #19
TomSlick May 2019 #20
tritsofme May 2019 #17
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #12
uponit7771 May 2019 #13


Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 04:44 PM

2. Good news - either indict that yahoo or he loses this time.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 04:45 PM

3. Wow! New hope for an Israel without Netanyahu!

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 04:48 PM

5. The political pendulum needs to swing left

To save the planet and itís inhabitants

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 04:48 PM

6. Great news

No one wants to work with Bibi

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 04:49 PM

7. big k&r. it was a close election against a party that was only 2 months old.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 06:06 PM

8. Has anyone told the Emperor Trump?

If Netanyahu doesn't cling to power in Israel, if someone less hard-right gets installed in his place, Trump might have more trouble than a little bit. Someone should tweet to Trump what a loser Netanyahu is. Just to piss him off a little bit.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #8)

Wed May 29, 2019, 06:10 PM

9. Ivanka has the sadz

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 07:14 PM

11. I haven't kept up with the details of Israeli politics.

Is there any reason to believe that anyone will be able to form a government after another election? It seems unlikely that there have been any large shifts in the electorate so soon since the last election.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #11)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:06 PM

14. My thoughts too. Seems like a big shift one way or another

need to take place. The problem is that the ultra-orthodox birthrate in Israel for the last ~ 25 years has been higher than the general birthrate, hence the rise of more rightist parties.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #14)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:16 PM

15. I wonder if this can be fixed.

My long ago poli sci degree fails me. What happens in a parliamentary system if no party can cobble together a sufficient coalition to form a government?

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #15)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:46 PM

16. I think there are several people on DU that understand the working of Parliament.

Maybe they can answer your question, I don't have a clue. In my view, that would be like us having a Presidential race tied 259-259 among the two leaders (is that possible, seem maybe in a multi-person race). What happens, do the other candidate(s) with electoral votes get to chose who to give theirs too? Do we let the two leaders draw straws with the one drawing the longest straw becoming President?

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #16)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:39 PM

18. I know the answer to that one.

First, remember that the vote that counts is the vote by the electoral college. Not all states require the electors to vote as their state did.

First, there really doesn't have to be a tie to cause the move to Plan B. A winning candidate must have a majority of the electoral college - 270 votes. In the unlikely event a third party candidate secured enough electoral votes to deny both major party candidates a majority, we go to Plan B.

No, the third and lower places candidates cannot give away their votes. In the unlikely event a third party candidate had any electors pledged to him/her, s/he could ask those electors to vote for one of the two leading candidates - but - some states forbid electors to vote contrary to their state vote (I personally question the constitutionality of such laws) and an unbound elector could refuse the request.

However, in the event of tied vote by the electors, the House of Representatives decides the election. Unfortunately, in that vote, each Congressional delegation gets one vote - so that North Dakota has the same vote as California.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #18)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

19. Wow, your last paragraph floored me.

That means something like 20% of the people decide the election, insane.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #19)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:52 PM

20. Exactly!

That provision may have made sense in 1787 but not so much now. Then again, I'm not convinced the Electoral College makes much sense now.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #15)

Thu May 30, 2019, 11:39 AM

17. If no formal coalition can be formed, the largest bloc may lead a minority government.

However this arrangement is inherently unstable, as a majority of members of the parliament are by definition outside of government and enough of their support would be required on confidence motions to prevent the governmentís failure.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:26 PM

13. Sounds like good news but I don't know how? BiBi gets second election and gets a do over no? tia

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