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leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:57 PM May 2019

So what is with this trend of calling for a true Patriot?

Mostly I have seen that word used by white supremacists referring to themselves and their violent movements.

Now it us showing up here. Mueller wasn't a true patriot because he didn't live up to your expectations? He never claimed to be some sort of avenging angel. We were the ones who laid that trip on him.

How odd.

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So what is with this trend of calling for a true Patriot? (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo May 2019 OP
I find the "he needs to stand up and save the country" bespeaks a helpless attitude that makes emmaverybo May 2019 #1
he did his job. Damned if he does damned if he doesnt..I feel sorry for the guy.. samnsara May 2019 #2
I don't, telling congress he's not going to testify in ANY appearance isn't helpful AT ALL !! uponit7771 May 2019 #8
everyone has one... stillcool May 2019 #3
So you're comparing posters here to white supremacists? Bradshaw3 May 2019 #4
You used it. And I just saw another one. nt leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #6
That is a lie Bradshaw3 May 2019 #10
Well, pardon me. leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #15
So your admittedly limited knowledge justifies a hit job? Bradshaw3 May 2019 #17
I think you are kind if over reacting here. leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #20
I think you are not taking responsibility for your posts Bradshaw3 May 2019 #22
I don't know why, and I have no dog in this fight lol. cwydro May 2019 #23
Use of that particular word makes me suspicious leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #5
So you seeing an ad makes it ok to slander a poster on here? Bradshaw3 May 2019 #14
No, Mueller's telling congress to fuck off while we're in peril does NOT helpful at all uponit7771 May 2019 #7
Honestly I don't think Mueller would use that language. leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #9
"I would not provide information ... in any appearance before congress." How else is he supposed uponit7771 May 2019 #11
I think he has provided all the factual information leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #12
This is false, there are a litany of questions the report does not answer one of them being uponit7771 May 2019 #13
We don't know what's in the report. Reading the unredacted leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #18
Agreed on getting the redacted report but Mueller said he's not going to give any information ... uponit7771 May 2019 #21
Patriotism is a disease. hunter May 2019 #16
It's a word that has kind if lost its original meaning. leftyladyfrommo May 2019 #19

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
1. I find the "he needs to stand up and save the country" bespeaks a helpless attitude that makes
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:01 PM
May 2019

me cringe. Odd and lazy.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
2. he did his job. Damned if he does damned if he doesnt..I feel sorry for the guy..
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:01 PM
May 2019

....AND he wrote best seller and didnt even get a dime. Hes done all he can legally do and now its up to the rest of us. I'm on the fence about impeachment at this point because i really believe the juicy stuffs coming from the NY courts...but i would like to see some paper work at least filed with intent!

Bradshaw3

(7,516 posts)
4. So you're comparing posters here to white supremacists?
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:18 PM
May 2019

That is disgusting. I haven't seen one poster use that term and certainly not in the way white supremacists do. If you can't back up that spurious claim then this thread should be deleted.

Bradshaw3

(7,516 posts)
10. That is a lie
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019

Obviously this post was aimed at me personally. Here is what I wrote:
"Sometiems being a patriot requires doing above and beyond, especially when our democracy is at stake." Anyone who intreprets that as akin to using it the way a white supremacist would is slandering.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
15. Well, pardon me.
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:01 PM
May 2019

I grew up in the Northwoods and I live in a red state and the only time I have ever heard people use that word was when they were referring to a particular philosophy. It was a code word. (Outside of the history of the revolutionary war).

And it still is a code word where I live. And if I hear it I get the hell out of there because the people who use that word are just plain dangerous.

Bradshaw3

(7,516 posts)
17. So your admittedly limited knowledge justifies a hit job?
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:20 PM
May 2019

By starting a thread just to unfairly smear a poster who disagreed with you on another thread? To most people patriot is a good term, and one I would hope Mueller would live up to by testifying before Congress.

And no, you are not pardoned, even though I know you meant that insincerely. Your limited knowledge about the term patriot does not give you the right to attack another poster by smearing them as a white supremacist.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. I don't know why, and I have no dog in this fight lol.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:46 PM
May 2019

But your response here just cracked me up laughing.

I may use that sometime.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
5. Use of that particular word makes me suspicious
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019

Of the source of the post.

There is an add on YouTube that I have seen where this ex navy seal (or so he claims but could just be an actor) comes walking out 8f the woods and says "I am a Patriot."
And you know instantly that he is talking to the White Supremacists. And that is where I turn it off.

Their definition of patriot is a whole bunch different than mine.

Bradshaw3

(7,516 posts)
14. So you seeing an ad makes it ok to slander a poster on here?
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:49 PM
May 2019

The definition of how to engage with other posters here is much different than what you just pulled.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. No, Mueller's telling congress to fuck off while we're in peril does NOT helpful at all
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:27 PM
May 2019

I'm disappointed.

https://www.vox.com/2019/5/29/18644237/robert-mueller-remarks-transcript

And the report is my testimony. I would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
9. Honestly I don't think Mueller would use that language.
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019

And that certainly wasn't what I hit out if his statement.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. "I would not provide information ... in any appearance before congress." How else is he supposed
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:33 PM
May 2019

... to say to congress I'm not talking?!

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
12. I think he has provided all the factual information
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:43 PM
May 2019

that he has. Anything else would just be a viewpoint or an assumption and an attorney of his caliber wouldn't go there.

Congress has the information. Now they need to do their job. And I think they will - with caution. These things take a while.

Things are shifting. A lot happened just today. Actually a lot has happened just on the last couple of weeks. Even the redacted version of this report has caused some big waves. And the ball is just starting to get rolling.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
13. This is false, there are a litany of questions the report does not answer one of them being
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:48 PM
May 2019

.... why did he narrow the conspriacy investigation to the Russian GOVERNMENT and not via Russian cut outs etc.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
18. We don't know what's in the report. Reading the unredacted
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:35 PM
May 2019

report would be a good 1st step. It would be hard to testify when no one but 5 Republicans have read his entire report. It would just turn into a giant slugfest.

I think Mueller would have answered questions privately. But those public hearings just turn into a big circus. Those senators get to grandstanding and go on and on and try to ask trick questions.

And he may be called anyway. We just have to wait and see what happens next.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. Agreed on getting the redacted report but Mueller said he's not going to give any information ...
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:49 PM
May 2019

... to any appearance before congress.

I pray Mueller speaks, it would be out of sorts for him not to or to give the Barr "I'm not going to answer that" responses.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
19. It's a word that has kind if lost its original meaning.
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:38 PM
May 2019

It did mean something back when. Back when Patrick Henry and the boys were fighting against the King.

Actually it was probably a code word even then.

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