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sarabelle

(453 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:41 AM May 2019

Trump is now handing Mueller his ass on a platter. That's why Mueller should have gone all out on

Trump. Trump is not holding back of smearing Mueller. Mueller had the power to thwart this bastard yesterday but he didn't. He deserves what he is getting now. It is sickening.

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Trump is now handing Mueller his ass on a platter. That's why Mueller should have gone all out on (Original Post) sarabelle May 2019 OP
Not going to take the bait to smear Mueller bitterross May 2019 #1
I'm for impeachment! Pardon me if I have an opinion about Mueller not living up to expectations. sarabelle May 2019 #18
Your post was not that Mueller did not live up to expectations (yours?), but a patent lie implying emmaverybo May 2019 #35
It is the expectations that were off treestar May 2019 #41
Huh! malaise May 2019 #2
With all due respects, watoos May 2019 #3
No, really? SammyWinstonJack May 2019 #4
Is he? blogslut May 2019 #5
Oh for fucks sake. ismnotwasm May 2019 #6
We need the unrec function back. wryter2000 May 2019 #62
Trump isn't handing anybody anything, he's just whining. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #7
and the more he whines bdamomma May 2019 #10
You said a mouthful wryter2000 May 2019 #60
Trump/racist pig is now getting his ass handed to him on a platter. stonecutter357 May 2019 #8
A good example of why everyone is afraid of him Cetacea May 2019 #9
Sniff...Sniff....Sniff. What do trolls smell like? shraby May 2019 #11
And the response was the same Cetacea May 2019 #14
Oh, good Gawd. GoCubsGo May 2019 #12
The media True Blue American May 2019 #54
I totally understand your frustration and upset. How he is heard here at DU is not how Ninga May 2019 #13
He has the bully pulpit and a compliant media Cetacea May 2019 #15
Agreed. And moreover, every time he opens his mouth he does more and more damage Ninga May 2019 #16
+1, uponit7771 May 2019 #17
Well if they can't get this simple line malaise May 2019 #20
Sorry, his supporters do not read. They let him translate and believe him. Nt Ninga May 2019 #21
They are a minority malaise May 2019 #24
Yes They are. However the lazy voters and people who don't vote will be affected Ninga May 2019 #30
No he isn't. Trump is doing his usual whining on Twitter. Catherine Vincent May 2019 #19
So you are saying you believe what Trump is saying about Mueller? Kaleva May 2019 #22
I think you should have reversed the names in your OP. n/t LuckyCharms May 2019 #23
Are you talking about DONALD Trump? StarfishSaver May 2019 #25
trump rants and raves like this only when there's been a direct hit EleanorR May 2019 #26
Come Back Mueller. Tertullian May 2019 #27
No he isn't. madaboutharry May 2019 #28
tRump bdamomma May 2019 #67
Interesting post. Kingofalldems May 2019 #29
. JimGinPA May 2019 #68
Trump couldn't hold a platter with those tiny hands. Cracklin Charlie May 2019 #31
The only ass that trump is serving up on a platter is his own. catbyte May 2019 #32
Everyone with a brain realizes Mueller told Congress to impeach. Cuthbert Allgood May 2019 #33
we all deserve what we are getting... stillcool May 2019 #34
Expectations are planned disappointments... Wounded Bear May 2019 #36
no handmade34 May 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #38
That's the problem marlakay May 2019 #47
Interesting that you think Trump smearing someone means he is handing them their ass on a platter. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #39
Whew! I got here just in time for the tag team. displacedtexan May 2019 #40
lol -- what could Mueller have said yesterday that would have prevented Trump from what he's doing? fishwax May 2019 #42
The only thing on tRump's silver platter is some cold, stale, congealed McDonald's Blue Owl May 2019 #43
Reading is fundamental. GemDigger May 2019 #44
yawn obamanut2012 May 2019 #45
Posts like this prove people haven't been paying attention to details. nini May 2019 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #48
Mueller did what he could do with his hands tied nini May 2019 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #53
Other then posting, what efforts are you making? Kaleva May 2019 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #65
Your reply suggests to me that this is a minor issue for you. Kaleva May 2019 #66
silly H2O Man May 2019 #50
Do you smell... LovingA2andMI May 2019 #51
Some of you are becoming increasingly absurd. nt Codeine May 2019 #52
Mueller handed Trump his ass. ooky May 2019 #55
Mueller seems to be an honorable man. Trump isn't persuading anybody except, maybe, himself. Shrike47 May 2019 #56
What I saw was a 'widdle' bully boy throwing an epic tantrum. sheshe2 May 2019 #57
Who the hell cares what Trump says about an honorable man? Mueller was correct to hand it off... Hekate May 2019 #58
Huh? wryter2000 May 2019 #59
Ugh LW1977 May 2019 #63
LOL! Downtown Hound May 2019 #64
 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
18. I'm for impeachment! Pardon me if I have an opinion about Mueller not living up to expectations.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:55 AM
May 2019

I am not a troll. I am sorry if I can't agree with everything posted here about Mueller. His statement that he would not testify to Congress is something i just can't excuse.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
35. Your post was not that Mueller did not live up to expectations (yours?), but a patent lie implying
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:59 AM
May 2019

Trump is somehow “winning,” showing up Mueller, followed by a petulant and spiteful “he deserves it.” You should try to understand why you might be thought a troll.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. It is the expectations that were off
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:27 AM
May 2019

for 2 years you heard people urging Mueller to "hurry up" and a naive belief he would have Tangerine Idi Amin taken away in handcuffs. That was never going to happen.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. With all due respects,
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:45 AM
May 2019

Donald Trump couldn't make a pimple on decorated Vietnam war hero Mueller's ass. This thread should stay up and be bashed by everyone.

blogslut

(38,022 posts)
5. Is he?
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:47 AM
May 2019

Seems to me that President Twitter is having his normal morning toddler fit. Not much ass plattering, IMHO.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,995 posts)
7. Trump isn't handing anybody anything, he's just whining.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:47 AM
May 2019

And if you’re setting out bait to get people to trash Mueller, I’m not biting.

bdamomma

(63,962 posts)
10. and the more he whines
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:49 AM
May 2019

he is putting the noose around his own neck, tRump always plays the victim and bully.

wryter2000

(46,136 posts)
60. You said a mouthful
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019

His latest tantrum included the information that "the Russians helped me get elected." I'm sure he didn't meant to let that one slip.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
9. A good example of why everyone is afraid of him
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:48 AM
May 2019

He changes defense into offense brilliantly.

If there is no Inquiry it will be Comey, Clinton, Biden being called into Senate Hearings next year

shraby

(21,946 posts)
11. Sniff...Sniff....Sniff. What do trolls smell like?
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:49 AM
May 2019

Mueller yesterday gave a huge nudge to congress to act.

GoCubsGo

(32,102 posts)
12. Oh, good Gawd.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:49 AM
May 2019

Mueller's ass is still firmly attached in its rightful place. Trump's tantrum did not place it on any sort of platter, or anywhere else. Good grief.

True Blue American

(17,996 posts)
54. The media
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
May 2019

Is having a hay day making fun of Trump lies and his blunders.

Makes Mueller look like the grown up in the room. Trump’s lies are binging him down.

Ninga

(8,282 posts)
13. I totally understand your frustration and upset. How he is heard here at DU is not how
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:50 AM
May 2019

millions in America hear him.

Millions in America are not willing, nor knowledgeable enough to try and understand what Mueller said yesterday.

Orange man sows doubt.

Ninga

(8,282 posts)
16. Agreed. And moreover, every time he opens his mouth he does more and more damage
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:53 AM
May 2019

to the institutions in this country.

Ninga

(8,282 posts)
30. Yes They are. However the lazy voters and people who don't vote will be affected
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:27 AM
May 2019

by his bloviating.

There is no such thing as a sure thing.

Kaleva

(36,403 posts)
22. So you are saying you believe what Trump is saying about Mueller?
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:16 AM
May 2019

Your comment:

"Trump is not holding back of smearing Mueller."

Tertullian

(46 posts)
27. Come Back Mueller.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:24 AM
May 2019

If Trump keeps it up, Mueller should come back into the public spotlight and tell everything he found out about Trump's lies.

madaboutharry

(40,246 posts)
28. No he isn't.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:25 AM
May 2019

He is not handing anyone his ass.

This morning, Trump sounded like an unhinged lying lunatic.



bdamomma

(63,962 posts)
67. tRump
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:29 PM
May 2019

is so predictable sling facts at him and he does get unhinged.

I just hate looking and hearing his voice, he projects so much hate and division. Bastard.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,009 posts)
33. Everyone with a brain realizes Mueller told Congress to impeach.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:43 AM
May 2019

Anyone claiming that he said Trump is cleared of all charges is either on serious narcotics or is fooling themselves with a fantasy they want to be true (hint: it's the last one).

Mueller did yesterday what was within the scope of his position. What happens next is out of his control. As it should be. Sorry that Mueller didn't throw Trump in jail, but he explained why that didn't happen.

Wounded Bear

(58,788 posts)
36. Expectations are planned disappointments...
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:03 AM
May 2019

If you expected Mueller to color outside the lines, you weren't paying attention to who he was.

Response to sarabelle (Original post)

marlakay

(11,536 posts)
47. That's the problem
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
May 2019

He speaks college and lawyer language to a country that only understands monkey jokes on social media.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
39. Interesting that you think Trump smearing someone means he is handing them their ass on a platter.
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:24 AM
May 2019

Mueller does seem to deserve the respect he is getting from people such as myself.

"He deserves what he is getting now."

That is a sad statement.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
40. Whew! I got here just in time for the tag team.
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:27 AM
May 2019

Seriously, we need proof of Trump's ass-handing expertise. So far, I haven't seen any.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
44. Reading is fundamental.
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

The report:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html

Transcript from yesterday:

"Two years ago, the Acting Attorney General asked me to serve as Special Counsel, and he created the Special Counsel's Office. The appointment order directed the office to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. This included investigating any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign.
I have not spoken publicly during our investigation. I am speaking today because our investigation is complete. The Attorney General has made the report on our investigation largely public. And we are formally closing the Special Counsel's Office. As well, I am resigning from the Department of Justice and returning to private life.
I'll make a few remarks about the results of our work. But beyond these few remarks, it is important that the office's written work speak for itself.
Let me begin where the appointment order begins: and that is interference in the 2016 presidential election.

As alleged by the grand jury in an indictment, Russian intelligence officers who were part of the Russian military launched a concerted attack on our political system. The indictment alleges that they used sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information, and then released that information through fake online identities and through the organization WikiLeaks. The releases were designed and timed to interfere with our election and to damage a presidential candidate.

And at the same time, as the grand jury alleged in a separate indictment, a private Russian entity engaged in a social media operation where Russian citizens posed as Americans in order to interfere in the election. These indictments contain allegations.
And we are not commenting on the guilt or innocence of any specific defendant. Every defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in court.

The indictments allege, and the other activities in our report describe, efforts to interfere in our political system. They needed to be investigated and understood.
That is among the reasons why the Department of Justice established our office. That is also a reason we investigated efforts to obstruct the investigation.
The matters we investigated were of paramount importance. It was critical for us to obtain full and accurate information from every person we questioned.
When a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government's effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable.
Let me say a word about the report.

The report has two parts addressing the two main issues we were asked to investigate. The first volume of the report details numerous efforts emanating from Russia to influence the election. This volume includes a discussion of the Trump campaign's response to this activity, as well as our conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy.
And in the second volume, the report describes the results and analysis of our obstruction of justice investigation involving the President.
The order appointing me Special Counsel authorized us to investigate actions that could obstruct the investigation. We conducted that investigation and we kept the office of the Acting Attorney General apprised of the progress of our work.
As set forth in our report, after that investigation, if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the President did commit a crime.

The introduction to volume two of our report explains that decision. It explains that under long-standing Department policy, a President cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional.
Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited. The Special Counsel's Office is part of the Department of Justice and, by regulation, it was bound by that Department policy.
Charging the President with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider.
The Department's written opinion explaining the policy against charging a President makes several important points that further informed our handling of the obstruction investigation. Those points are summarized in our report.

And I will describe two of them:
First, the opinion explicitly permits the investigation of a sitting President because it is important to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents are available. Among other things, that evidence could be used if there were co-conspirators who could now be charged.
And second, the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting President of wrongdoing.
And beyond Department policy, we were guided by principles of fairness. It would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of an actual charge.
So that was the Justice Department policy and those were the principles under which we operated. From them we concluded that we would not reach a determination – one way or the other – about whether the President committed a crime. That is the office's final position and we will not comment on any other conclusions or hypotheticals about the President.
We conducted an independent criminal investigation and reported the results to the Attorney General – as required by Department regulations. The Attorney General then concluded that it was appropriate to provide our report to Congress and the American people.

At one point in time I requested that certain portions of the report be released. The Attorney General preferred to make the entire report public all at once. We appreciate that the Attorney General made the report largely public. I do not question the Attorney General's good faith in that decision.
I hope and expect this to be the only time that I will speak about this matter. I am making that decision myself – no one has told me whether I can or should testify or speak further about this matter. There has been discussion about an appearance before Congress.
Any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. It contains our findings and analysis, and the reasons for the decisions we made. We chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself.
The report is my testimony. I would not provide information beyond that which is already public in any appearance before Congress. In addition, access to our underlying work product is being decided in a process that does not involve our office. So beyond what I have said here today and what is contained in our written work, I do not believe it is appropriate for me to speak further about the investigation or to comment on the actions of the Justice Department or Congress.

It is for that reason that I will not take questions here today.
Before I step away, I want to thank the attorneys, the FBI agents, the analysts, and the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. These individuals, who spent nearly two years with the Special Counsel's Office, were of the highest integrity.
I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments – that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election. That allegation deserves the attention of every American. Thank you"


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/29/mueller-read-his-comments-russia-trump-lack-charges/1270761001/

nini

(16,672 posts)
46. Posts like this prove people haven't been paying attention to details.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:06 PM
May 2019

Not to mention Trump is always going after someone and whatever he says is a 180 from the truth.

Mueller worked within the constraints dictated to him. Quit blaming him and put it on those who tied his hands.

He's going after Mueller today because he's scared.

Response to nini (Reply #46)

nini

(16,672 posts)
49. Mueller did what he could do with his hands tied
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:10 PM
May 2019

He is not the one covering up for Trump.

Fucking point your outrage at the right target.

Response to nini (Reply #49)

Kaleva

(36,403 posts)
61. Other then posting, what efforts are you making?
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019

If you are limiting yourself to making phone calls or sending e-mails, that shows that this isn't of much importance to you. It's human nature to take make great effort to address a great need. It's also human nature to do little when there appears to be little need.

Response to Kaleva (Reply #61)

Kaleva

(36,403 posts)
66. Your reply suggests to me that this is a minor issue for you.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:15 PM
May 2019

Something to post about but that's about it. Like the way people post in groups such as TV Chat or Weird news.

ooky

(8,934 posts)
55. Mueller handed Trump his ass.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:23 PM
May 2019

What you are seeing is that Trump didn't like it, and acting like typical Trump when someone has handed him his ass. Which is to stand up and lie about it and call names.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
56. Mueller seems to be an honorable man. Trump isn't persuading anybody except, maybe, himself.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:25 PM
May 2019

Barr and Trump lied about the report and now he’s fuming about what it says. I suspect Trump never read it and isn’t astute enough to realize what it really says and omits. He hears what he wants to hear and then feels betrayed when the truth is pointed out. Sad.

sheshe2

(84,060 posts)
57. What I saw was a 'widdle' bully boy throwing an epic tantrum.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:32 PM
May 2019

He wasn't handing Mueller his ass, he was trying to save face and ass alike. He looked like a raving lunatic with spittle flying.

Hekate

(91,020 posts)
58. Who the hell cares what Trump says about an honorable man? Mueller was correct to hand it off...
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

...to Congress. Now it is up to them to do their job. Now it is up to US to have Mueller's back and to urge Congress to do its job.

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