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A Passaic County woman was attacked and knocked unconscious after complaining to a school vice principal about three students who threatened her son and told him to go back to Mexico, the womans attorney said Tuesday.
Beronica Ruiz, 35, of Passaic, was attacked June 19 at Lexington Avenue and Monroe Street as she pushed a stroller with her 1-year-old baby inside and her 12-year-old son walking with her, according to her attorney, Daniel Santiago of Clifton.
This was a horrific and brutal attack, Santiago told NJ Advance Media. It takes a certain level of insanity to brutally attack a mother with a stroller and leave her for dead.
The woman was hospitalized for two days after a 13-year-old student one of three who had been taunting her son essentially jumped my client, Santiago said.
She suffered a fractured eye socket, bruises and a bloodied eye that remained red for days.
https://www.nj.com/news/2019/06/nj-mom-beaten-unconscious-by-school-bully-who-threatened-her-son-in-hate-crime-lawyer-says.html?fbclid=IwAR12G2XwswzOwE48hJgHqCWpaXgSCCuiwwQfuKgcKG_IrZs-KnS4N8BFkGY
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)get sued real hard.
live love laugh
(13,109 posts)pandr32
(11,583 posts)I sure hope this particular school is taken to task by the district officials and there are firings. Those boys should not be let off the hook, either. I doubt much would happen from their parents--sounds like the homes are racist, right-wing environments, but I could be wrong.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Quite the combo.
pandr32
(11,583 posts)This began by boys chanting that Mexicans should go back behind the wall, he said. What spurred them to threaten violence was [Ruizs son] advising that we all come from immigrants. . . . That anger triggered in this young boy enough hate and enough fury to attack a woman, an adult, with no fear.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)They sure do get around.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Omigod!
yardwork
(61,608 posts)I'm honestly perplexed as to your intention here.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Just found the comment, and then your answer to it funny.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Not many black teenagers are in Trumps target demographic.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)According to Ruiz's lawyer the teens are black.
[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/26/mother-teen-bully-assault-mexico/|]
Thought stereotyping was a bad thing, whatever happened to that?
Aristus
(66,361 posts)give them someone to look down on. As long as the spotlight is on Hispanic people, it takes the target off of African-American people.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)awhile.
OBVIOUSLY I don't mean 'everyone' when I say this, but the two communities have been strategically put at one another's throats for quite some time by the powers that be. It's definitely a 'thing'.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Or are you suggesting because they're black they couldn't ever support Trump and his rhetoric?
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Response to RAB910 (Original post)
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Iggo
(47,552 posts)...and how having been inside gives you an understanding of three children beating up a mother walking with her two children.
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Iggo
(47,552 posts)Next time take smaller bites.
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mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)ripcord
(5,399 posts)In jails and prisons even the Hispanics are broken up into those who are from north of the border and those who originated south of it. This is done by the inmates themselves, there is a great deal of fear in these places and people retreat into these groups for protection. Racism is the norm and practiced by every group, people who have never been there just can't comprehend. And yes I did half a year in the LA County jail system because I lost my temper when I was younger
Iggo
(47,552 posts)And this story ain't it.
ripcord
(5,399 posts)Trump is making people afraid and they are splitting into groups and the groups feel they have to defend themselves. Some people are more susceptible to that fear and so they begin to hate those other groups who are makin them afraid..
Iggo
(47,552 posts)...that having a familiarity with incarceration makes understandable, and conversely, that NOT having a familiarity with incarceration makes not understandable.
The premise of the post that I was replying to is laughable.
And so I laughed.
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Iggo
(47,552 posts)I read that on the internet today with my open eyes.
You should, too.
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mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Cause otherwise ... there's really nothing 'understandable' about this incident ... and even then, it'd be a stretch. It's a woman and baby ffs.
sarisataka
(18,654 posts)I don't understand this.
Perhaps you can elaborate for those of us who are slow?
ripcord
(5,399 posts)I believe it is a hold over from an earlier time, people are afraid in jail, groups will prey on individuals so you can't be an individual. The groups have been around forever, as the new fish you will be welcomed by your racial group and ignored by the others. When there are no problems individuals from these groups will intermingle but as soon as any tension or problems come up the divisions become apparent and they group up even if they aren't involved because trouble causes chaos and that is a time when old scores can be settled. Some people who truly aren't racists are forced into racist behavior for survival. I hate those places and one of my only fears is going back.
sarisataka
(18,654 posts)Of needing to join a group, and act accordingly to the mores of that group, for self preservation. That is not however an excuse for individual actions. To try to say "I did it only because my group made me" is simply a variation of the just following orders excuse.
In any case, there has been no evidence presented to indicate the assailant was pressured by any peer group. It appears he is a bully with racial issues who is willing to assault and seriously injure his victims.Yet many are willing to seek excuses for his actions once the initial assumption is shown to be incorrect.
Everyman Jackal
(271 posts)All things considered, I was glad to hear that a large part of his MC is also in the same prison.
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sarisataka
(18,654 posts)So I fail to see what insight prison experience lends to this incident.
Are you saying should excuse (or at the least not condemn) a racist assault because we do not know what the other person is going through?
Should this courtesy be extended to all racists?
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mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #49)
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sarisataka
(18,654 posts)All racially motivated violence. I do not seek to find excuses when the skin color of the perpetrator is inconvenient.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)So the racial violence in a prison makes all other racial violence ethically right?
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Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Conflict between Black people and Latinos didn't start in prison. It followed them in. Black people and Latinos had conflict in the inner cities for a long time as both groups have historically been poor, lived in the urban centers, and competed for jobs against each other.
Racial animosity is learned at home, in the community, and through societal norms. Trump has amplified the tensions by telling Black people that they have it bad, that they live in hell holes and are suffering "carnage", then he scapegoats the problems onto immigrants (Latinos). The message is basically, "You Black people are low in the pecking order, but at least you aren't immigrants.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I worked as a volunteer in schools in South Florida some years ago.
I was horrified at hearing black kids call other black kids names because their skin was darker than theirs. Even Chris Rock references this prejudice within the black community in his routines.
Very sad, but no one race is immune from this crap.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Of course there is prejudice and bigotry in EVERY racial group. Like I said in my post, the animosity between Black people and Latinos goes back a long time. I was responding to the person who implied that having been in prison or knowing someone who had been was something like a prerequisite to understanding why Black youth would attack a Mexican kid and his mother. My response was that it was not required to have that experience.
I grew up in Southern California. In my city there were Black people, Mexican/Mexican-Americans, and Filipinos. I personally got along with everyone. I had Black friends, Filipino friends, and Mexican friends. I was also very aware that there were always tensions, especially between Black kids and Mexican kids. Everyone picked on the Filipinos until they started carrying serious weapons.
There is also A LOT of prejudice within the Latino community against other Latinos. I dare you to call a Puerto Rican a Mexican, or a Mexican a Salvadorian.
Discrimination is a natural human instinct. We do tend to prefer being around people who are like us and share commonalities. The problem occurs when we start assigning value to the differences and saying that (x group is inferior because...). We can also learn to discriminate less and celebrate difference, but that takes positive exposure to outside groups and increasing experience.
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)They have three (3) anti bullying specialists at the school for 1000 students. (2 onsite and 1 from the district)
http://passaicschools.org/anti-bullying-info-school-no-20/
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Hate crime Attempted murder
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Those kids need to be educated and deprogrammed from their learned hatred. They do not need to go further into a system that exacerbates it. They do not need to be yet more people of color who are taken out of society for acting out the notions of White Supremacy and racial hierarchy.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Hmmm. . . . .
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)As bad as what was done to the mother, and the bullying, the children are acting out what they are being taught and likely have trauma in their own lives. It is a treatment issue not a punitive one. There should be accountability but it really is about trying to salvage an adolescent not just punish them. If It were a 30 year old man, I'd likely feel different regardless of the race of the assailant.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and wasnt attempted murder. It was bullying the escalated when a small adult became involved. The boys involved need to be punished, but being a reactionary is stupid no matter which side of the aisle you sit on.
This.
malaise
(268,998 posts)King of Cons
rockfordfile
(8,703 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)they told the mother that the attacker had just as much right to an education as her son" Apparently the attacker is not exercising that right.
sarisataka
(18,654 posts)to an education as he was the one removed from class after the initial bullying.