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Bayard

(22,063 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:01 PM Jun 2019

Your dog's food may be linked to canine heart disease

(CNN)The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is warning dog owners of a possible link between certain dog food brands and a serious form of canine heart disease.

The FDA has investigated more than 500 cases of dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) in dogs eating certain types of food, according to their statement. DCM is a condition that effects a dog's heart and results in an enlarged muscle. Dogs with DCM tire easily, cough, and have difficulty breathing.

When the FDA first alerted the public in 2018 to cases of DCM, the agency didn't mention specific brands; only foods labeled as "grain-free" and containing peas, lentils, other legume seeds and/or potatoes as the main ingredients.
As part of that investigation, the FDA has now identified 16 brands of dog food which had the most frequent reported cases of DCM. The top three brands, according to the FDA, are Acana, named in 67 reports; Zignature, named in 64, and Taste of the Wild, named in 53 reports.

"We know it can be devastating to suddenly learn that your previously healthy pet has a potentially life-threatening disease like DCM. That's why the FDA is committed to continuing our collaborative scientific investigation into the possible link between DCM and certain pet foods," said Dr. Steven M. Solomon, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine.




https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/us/dog-food-linked-to-canine-heart-disease/index.html

Oh, great. We cook for our dogs, but also give them the 4-Health kibble. The research we did said it was one of the highest quality foods. Guess its back to the drawing board. Great Pyrenees have a short enough life span already.

Note: I believe the recall clip on this site is from last year. I couldn't find it anywhere else that is recent.

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Your dog's food may be linked to canine heart disease (Original Post) Bayard Jun 2019 OP
I'm taking my Acana crap back to the store ! donkeypoofed Jun 2019 #1
That stuff ain't cheap either! get the red out Jul 2019 #27
This is a very serious topic that needs more research Lheurch Jun 2019 #2
Thought of that too. Duppers Jun 2019 #5
We feed our cats Taste of the Wild. yonder Jun 2019 #3
Taurine deficiency was noted in cats a few years ago Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #15
We're fine here, thankfully. Duppers Jun 2019 #4
The presence of euthanasia drugs implies animal carcasses mahina Jun 2019 #6
I don't think the euthanasia drug clip was connected to the main article Bayard Jun 2019 #11
My dog ate one of the brands. a la izquierda Jun 2019 #7
Oh I am so so sorry. mahina Jun 2019 #17
Thanks. It was a terrible shock. a la izquierda Jun 2019 #19
Oh, great! I also have a Great Pyrenees. Polly Hennessey Jun 2019 #8
Any if the big 5 are ok. They all test and run trials. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2019 #21
I am going to try Royal Canin. Polly Hennessey Jul 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author shanti Jun 2019 #9
I also realized this doesn't specify dry or canned food Bayard Jun 2019 #10
So many expensive brands mcar Jun 2019 #12
I'd feel guilty feeding Beneful to barn mice! Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #14
My rule, if they dont do do feeding trials, I won't feed it. Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #13
Thank you for sharing. My ex has been feeding her dog ooky Jun 2019 #16
Shit - last yr my dog ate Zignature for about 6 months womanofthehills Jun 2019 #18
I'd be interested in hearing what safe brands you find DU'ers Bayard Jun 2019 #20
Vets are telling people to stick with the big 5 for leftyladyfrommo Jun 2019 #22
Purina One with brown rice. Duppers Jul 2019 #24
I'm just going to stick with cooking for my dogs Bayard Jul 2019 #23
Our brand isn't on there Bettie Jul 2019 #25
What about the varieties WITH grains? get the red out Jul 2019 #26
Snowy has been on a Rx diet for 2 years to prevent recurrence of bladder stones mnhtnbb Jul 2019 #28
Shocked to see Merrick listed. Prosper Jul 2019 #30
The results are not yet conclusive MichMan Jul 2019 #31
What did you switch to? cally Jul 2019 #32
Now feeding a brand called Nature's Logic MichMan Jul 2019 #33

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. I'm taking my Acana crap back to the store !
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jun 2019

And refund or no, it is staying there! I am super choked about this. Mess with my dog and I'll mess with you! Acana is going to get ripped a new one on Monday. Stupid in this case is unforgivable.

Thank you so much for sharing this !

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
27. That stuff ain't cheap either!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jul 2019

I know a lot of people who feed it to their dogs. It's had a great reputation until now. I feed Fromm, but "Gold" and not "grain-free". I need to find out if that is ok so long as it isn't grain-free.

 

Lheurch

(65 posts)
2. This is a very serious topic that needs more research
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jun 2019

I want to see this data correlated with the market share of the brands actually sold. It could be creating some false positives, but also disguising a serious issue with an unpopular but dangerous brand.

mahina

(17,651 posts)
6. The presence of euthanasia drugs implies animal carcasses
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jun 2019

I don’t get the connection between that and legumes. Does anyone else?

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
11. I don't think the euthanasia drug clip was connected to the main article
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jun 2019

It looks like its from last year, so don't know why its in there. Not connected to legumes.

a la izquierda

(11,794 posts)
7. My dog ate one of the brands.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jun 2019

He’s now dead, of a heart attack. He was just diagnosed in January with a murmur.

Polly Hennessey

(6,794 posts)
8. Oh, great! I also have a Great Pyrenees.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jun 2019

He is eight months old. Is it an over abundance of peas, lentils? Try finding dry food that IS NOT grain free.🤨

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Bayard

(22,063 posts)
10. I also realized this doesn't specify dry or canned food
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jun 2019

Regardless, my babies are getting whole wheat pasta with their chicken livers and broccoli tonight. That's what I always used to do anyway.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
14. I'd feel guilty feeding Beneful to barn mice!
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jun 2019

The best Purina products are Pro Plan. I feed it myself along with Canidae to offer variety. Look at the All Life Stages Sport.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
16. Thank you for sharing. My ex has been feeding her dog
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jun 2019

Acana. Said he loved it and dropped off some for my dog to try. I was just about to give it to him as soon as I was out of his current brand to see if he liked it. I sent her a text so she can stop. We are both grateful.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
18. Shit - last yr my dog ate Zignature for about 6 months
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 03:23 AM
Jun 2019

Luckily, he is not a big fan of dried food and I gave him small amts, but now I'm worried. One day he just refused to eat it at all so I switched to another food.

I wonder if the high levels of Roundup (glyphosate) in peas can be part of the problem.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
20. I'd be interested in hearing what safe brands you find DU'ers
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jun 2019

I'm spending a lot of comparison time on Google. Like I was saying, I may just go back to entirely cooking for my guys. They already get eggs from our chickens every morning.

Here's another short article on grain-free food:
https://news.yahoo.com/grain-free-food-may-linked-dog-heart-disease-172221153.html

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
22. Vets are telling people to stick with the big 5 for
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

now. Purina Eukanuba Hills Iams and z
Royal Canin. Those companies haven't been associated with the heart disease. And they all have qualified staff running trials to be sure their foods are safe.

There are several universities that are running tests trying to find out what the problem is.

Dogs can eat grains just fine. Dogs aren't wolves. Over the last 14,000 years of living with humans they have developed 8 or 9 genes to handle grains. You don't need to feed grain free food.

Once they can pinpoint the problem then you can switch back to whatever food you want.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
24. Purina One with brown rice.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

We've fed Labs Purina One- Chicken & Brown Rice formula. I asked our Vet less than 3wks ago about it and she said it was fine. (It's $33.50 at Chewy.com for a 31lb bag.) Contains no wheat or corn--we've always avoided those grains because of the GMO factor.

I make veggie soup with a bit of meat and also supplement with a easy fix: I blanched canned green beans, then reheated with homemade chicken stock, which they both also love.


Bayard

(22,063 posts)
23. I'm just going to stick with cooking for my dogs
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jul 2019

After spending hours looking at ratings online, some sites say the brands listed above as most frequently associated with DCM, are the the same ones most highly rated on other sites. There are some obscure brands out there that are mentioned as good, but look hard to find and quite expensive--a big factor when you're feeding three 150 lb dogs.

Tons of recipes out there for making your own. 30-40% protein is ideal. I use a lot of boiled chicken, chicken livers, gizzards, along with veges and usually pasta or brown rice. Throw in a vitamin/mineral tablet. There is a new farm store in town that was going to sell mutton/lamb. I may check there for hearts and kidneys (smell terrible while cooking, but very healthy).

I started doing this originally when they were doing a bunch of recalls after finding melamin in various brands, including top ones. I've just gotten lazy lately, and only cooking meat to go on top of kibble.

I'm done with commercial food.......again.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
25. Our brand isn't on there
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jul 2019

but it seems like all of the brands listed are the most expensive ones.

We have a Pyr mix...adopted from a shelter, seems the family got a fuzzy little pupper and didn't realize how big and barky he'd get!

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
26. What about the varieties WITH grains?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jul 2019

A few of those brands listed have varieties that are NOT grain-free, and not filled up with legumes. I have been feeding Fromm Gold since I first read there might be a problem with grain-free foods precisely for this reason. I am assuming they are discussing the grain-free varieties of these brands, but I wish they would note that if it's true.

We really do need this information clarified. Hopefully that will happen soon.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
28. Snowy has been on a Rx diet for 2 years to prevent recurrence of bladder stones
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jul 2019

At the time she had the surgery to remove the stones, the vet also picked up a heart arrhythmia while she was on the monitor for surgery. Vet told me there was a study indicating that dogs rarely survived beyond 6 months once diagnosed with the arrhythmia. Makes them susceptible for sudden death.

So, she's been eating the urinary formula of canned Royal Canin for 2 years. Yes, the dog that was supposed to be gone within 6 months is still with me 2 years later!

Before the surgery, I had fed her Natural Balance for a couple of years, and Purina prior to that. I wonder if the Natural Balance contributed to her heart problem?

Prosper

(761 posts)
30. Shocked to see Merrick listed.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jul 2019

We picked Merrick because it never had a call back. Start looking again or .make our own.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
31. The results are not yet conclusive
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jul 2019

I have been following this issue since last fall. While their has seen some evidence there is a link , no one really understands what the root cause is yet. At this the data indicates that peas. ligumes and pulse ingredients (which were protein substitutes for grains) are contributing to taurine absorption.

Keep in mind that there are millions of dogs and the percentage reported to the FDA with DCM is very low. There are also a few breeds like Golden Retrievers that are genetically predisposed to having heart issues regardless of foods.

I have been feeding Orijen for years and while the % of the suspect ingredients is quite low, I did switch just for my own piece of mind , if nothing else, until the FDA has more definitive information. That being said, I had dogs that lived long lives on Orijen without any heart issues, so to blame it on a particular brand may not be fair.

I suspect that many small companies that produce some of these foods are really taking a hit right now as many pet owners are panicking.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
33. Now feeding a brand called Nature's Logic
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jul 2019

Tried both Purina One and also Farmina (Italian) No issues with either one, but ended up changing to Nature's Logic.

It was a very hard decision to go away from Orijen as I had been feeding it to my dogs for over 10 years, and they did very well, but this DCM food scare was driving me crazy. Had to make some kind of change just for my own piece of mind.

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