DU POLL: Does Policy or Ability to Win dictate your Primary Choice?

[BigmanPigman]

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When choosing a Dem Primary Candidate do you vote based on the candidates' policies or their ability to beat tRump/GOP?

11 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Poll closed
	Policy
	3 (27%)
	Defeat tRump
	7 (64%)
	Personality
	0 (0%)
	Other
	1 (9%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Skittles]

1. let me guess

only Biden is assumed to have "Ability"

[UniteFightBack]

6. As of today yes I think he has the best chance to win by the largest margin. That of course can

change.

[Skittles]

8. well it does need to change

we can do better, WAY better

[UniteFightBack]

32. And who in your opinion is 'better'...all of a sudden Biden is chopped liver. Really pathetic. nt

[33taw]

27. I think several candidates can beat Trump.

Biden, Warren, Sanders, Harris and Buttigieg are among them.

[Skittles]

31. I'll take three of them

[Generic Brad]

2. Morality wins the day with me

All have policy. All have ability. But my primary choice will be heavily based on the decency and respect they displayed while campaigning. We are up against a level of corruption and slime never before seen in our nation. I want the opposite of that!

[Turin_C3PO]

3. That's a good metric to go by!

I like that.

[UniteFightBack]

4. We must win as handily as possible considering all the tampering and the slim margin of victory

that scumbag had.

[PETRUS]

5. Policy, for sure.

The "wrong" policy could open up the door for a future right winger that's even worse than Trump.

[Claritie Pixie]

7. Both with me - they go hand in hand.

[BigmanPigman]

9. That is normally how I vote but this year is different for me.

I would have phrased the question as "beat tRump" but I didn't want to suggest physically beating him. Then I paused and thought that I wish someone would physically beat him up (until now I was a non-violent pacifist too...look what he has done to people like me!).

[Claritie Pixie]

13. It's ok to think that - I do all the time!

For me though, going head to head with him, rolling in the mud with him, will not beat him.

It's going to take substance and integrity. The opposite of what he is.

[OkSustainAg]

10. Tired of anti-people policy

Look at what gets passed.

[UTUSN]

11. Almost all Dem contenders are fine with policy.

[aeromanKC]

12. Beating Trump by the biggest margin possible will also have a down ballot effect

And remember, this is a census year for the next decade!!

[IcyPeas]

14. these are strange days

I would think in "normal" times policy would be much more important. But these are not normal times. Getting trump out is important to me.

Strange days indeed -- most peculiar, mama

[marylandblue]

15. The one who best understands the current problems in our country.

People voted for Trump for a reason. Real reasons not a made up guess of what Democrats think someone else ought to do. The real reasons led them to be dissatisfied with political leaders of both parties. They seem no more satisfied today. Whoever speaks best to the reasons for the dussatisfaction, gets my vote.

[Skittles]

17. more people voted for Hillary "for a reason"

[marylandblue]

20. First of all "people" means at a minimum enough people in the states where we need them.

Second of all, the fact that Trump even got more than 5% of the Republican vote let alone 46% of the entire country speaks to a much deeper and more serious problem than Trump himself. As of now, only two candidates seem aware of this, so one of them will get my vote, unless someone else figures it out.

[Skittles]

21. Trump had Russia and the FBI on his side

Trump did not "win" via MAGAts alone

[marylandblue]

24. Those wouldn't have worked unless people were already dissatisfied.

People just don't vote in large numbers for someone like Trump unless they think there is something seriously wrong with the country and their voice is not being heard. And it is not something unique to America like the FBI. The same problem is occurring in many countries around the world.

Only 2 out of 24 candidates seem to get it. Most DUers don't seem to get it. I hope at least the Democratic base understands what is bothering the rest of the country.

[Skittles]

25. "the rest of the country"

you're talking about less than half.....and FUCK those racist, sexist assholes

there are more than two candidates who GET IT....we need to concentrate on the people who failed to vote, not those voted for a sick fascist reality TV show con man to be PRESIDENT

[marylandblue]

28. I didn't say any of that, and it's clear you don't get it, but

then again, if you want to get it, you have to see other people as fully formed persons in their own right, with hopes, dreams and flaws, not mere "racist, sexist assholes." And even if they were racist sexist assholes, 46% of the electorate is PAINFULLY close to a majority for someone as manifestly unfit for office as Donald Trump. So even if Trump loses next time, but the underlying problems are not addressed, the path is cleared for a smarter more competent Trump to win a future election.

If I were so inclined and sufficiently skilled I know exactly how I would do it. That scares the crap out of me, because if I can see it, so can a lot of other people who are actually inclined to do it.

[Turin_C3PO]

29. I'm curious

to know what your opinion is that so many people voted for him and which two candidates understand it. Seriously, I’m interested in your thoughts because it bugs me that so many approve of this asshole.

[Skittles]

30. LOL

done here

[NRaleighLiberal]

16. Passed. Without admitting the election was stolen and fixing it, none

Of this matters

[Turin_C3PO]

19. We can't do anything about that right now.

McConnell is blocking all efforts to secure this election. So we must turn out in huge numbers to overcome any possible GOP/Russian shenanigans. We did it in 2018, we can do it in 2020.

[guillaumeb]

18. Both.

[Voltaire2]

22. Ability to win is nebulous bullshit.

There is no objective way to determine that, so everyone just thinks themselves into believing their guy is the most electable.

On the other hand, you can just write down what policy positions are important to you, and compare each candidate against that list.

[Orangepeel]

23. Differences in policy are relatively trivial because changes and compromises will happen

No of their plans will be enacted as is

[True Dough]

26. Both

They're not mutually exclusive.

[Omaha Steve]

33. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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[UniteFightBack]

34. It's really hard to believe this poll from what I witness in the Primary forum. nt