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(35,454 posts)
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 01:59 PM Jul 2019

"Barring a shock to the system, Democrats recapture the presidency"

Presidential Election
by Rachel Bitecofer

“In July of 2018, raised eyebrows by predicting some four months before the midterm election that Democrats would pick up 42 seats in the House of Representatives. In hindsight, that may not seem such a bold prediction, but when my forecast was released, election Twitter was still having a robust debate as to whether the Blue Wave would be large enough for Democrats to pick up the 23 seats they needed to take control of the House of Representatives and return the Speaker’s gavel to Nancy Pelosi….

Barring a shock to the system, Democrats recapture the presidency. The leaking of the Trump campaign’s internal polling has somewhat softened the blow of this forecast, as that polling reaffirms what my model already knew: Trump’s 2016 path to the White House, which was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker, is probably not replicable in 2020 with an agitated Democratic electorate. And that is really bad news for Donald Trump because the Blue Wall of the Midwest was then, and is now, the ONLY viable path for Trump to win the White House.

Why is Trump in so much trouble in the Midwest? First, and probably most important, is the profound misunderstanding by, well, almost everyone, as to how he won Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania in the first place. Ask anyone, and they will describe Trump’s 2016 Midwestern triumph as a product of white, working class voters swinging away from the Democrats based on the appeal of Trump’s economic populist messaging. Some will point to survey data of disaffected Obama-to-Trump voters and even Sanders-to-Trump voters as evidence that this populist appeal was the decisive factor. And this is sort of true. In Ohio, Trump managed the rare feat of cracking 50%. Elsewhere, that explanation runs into empirical problems when one digs into the data. Start with the numerical fact that Trump “won” Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan with 47.22%, 48.18%, and 47.5% of the vote, respectively, after five times the normal number in those states cast their ballots for an option other than Trump or Clinton. This, combined with the depressed turnout of African Americans (targeted with suppression materials by the Russians) and left-leaning Independents turned off by Clinton (targeted with defection materials by the Russians) allowed Trump to pull off an improbable victory, one that will be hard to replicate in today’s less nitpicky atmosphere. Yet, the media (and the voting public) has turned Trump’s 2016 win into a mythic legend of invincibility. The complacent electorate of 2016, who were convinced Trump would never be president, has been replaced with the terrified electorate of 2020, who are convinced he’s the Terminator and can’t be stopped. Under my model, that distinction is not only important, it is everything.

Trump’s second problem is that along with a turnout surge of Democrats that in many states like Virginia is simply larger than the turnout surges of Republicans because of demographics, he is deeply unpopular among Independents because of all the abnormal, norm-breaking and according to the Mueller Report, even illegal things, he does as president. This has left him with an abysmal approval rating averaging just 34.8% in 2019 among independents who largely broke against Republicans in the 2018 midterms as my theory predicted. In a follow-up piece to this forecast, I will show that much of this swing among Independents is actually the product of their own turnout surge, which brought more left-leaning Independents out to the polls by the same negative partisanship mechanisms that moved their partisan counterparts. This is why even the Democrat’s sharp drift to the left as they chase their party’s nomination, following the Republicans down the path of ideological polarization won’t have the impact on the vote choice of Independents Republicans are hoping for in 2018.”…

http://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/2019/07/01-2020-election-forecast/

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. The Faulty Comparison is a logical fallacy.
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:18 PM
Jul 2019

Too little objective data provided for it to be anything but.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. she did not have it locked up 4 years ago
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:46 PM
Jul 2019

People were predicting a competitive race between her and Jeb Bush, with Scott Walker and Marco Rubio as possibilities as well. Trump has just gotten into the race and his comments on Mexicans were panned in the media. She had the Democratic nomination locked up because Sanders didn't really gain momentum until late 2015, but not the general election.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jeb-bush-surges-lead-gop-pack-new-2016-poll

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
3. Yeah, and Hillary had it so deep in the bag that it was pointless to even vote
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jul 2019

Let's not get complacent lol.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. The difference, I think, is that most people weren't ANGRY with Hillary (except for the loons)
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jul 2019

But apathy was an easy choice for people who didn't like Trump but also didn't like Hillary enough to bestir themselves to go out and vote, especially because she was totally supposed to win (and did, after all).

This time around, people are pissed and disgusted--not all people, but many. He'll have his base, but that's it. It will feel really really good to vote not just for a Democrat but specifically against the most corrupt president in our lifetimes.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,609 posts)
5. Good news- better play it safe and nominate a true progressive
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:07 PM
Jul 2019

To energize the turnout of young voters and POC.

Safer than nominating a status quo centrist, who would likely suppress turnout for younger voters.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Let's put an end to the "middle-of-the-road-is-more-electable" myth once and for all.
Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jul 2019

Middle of the road is uninspiring. We need to keep the emotional intensity high to win this one.

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