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SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:38 PM Jul 2019

Trump Just Admitted Something He Probably Shouldn't Have About The Census Citizenship Question

Oops

WaPo

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said you need the census citizenship question “for many reasons.”

“No. 1, you need it for Congress — you need it for Congress for districting,” he said. “You need it for appropriations — where are the funds going? How many people are there? Are they citizens? Are they not citizens? You need it for many reasons.”

Take note of that first one. Not only was a redistricting rationale not mentioned by the administration in its failed legal defense of the question; it was actually something that the other side argued was the administration’s true motivation. The plaintiffs in the case — and many who oppose the citizenship question — have argued that this is a thinly veiled attempt by Republicans to gain a potential game-changing tool in redistricting.

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What’s more, in arguments to the Supreme Court, U.S. Solicitor General Noel J. Francisco said explicitly that drawing the districts according to citizen voting-age population was not part of the administration’s rationale.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/05/trump-just-admitted-something-he-probably-shouldnt-have-about-census-citizenship-question/%3foutputType=amp


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Trump Just Admitted Something He Probably Shouldn't Have About The Census Citizenship Question (Original Post) SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 OP
I think he means congressional districts. chowder66 Jul 2019 #1
After the census, SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 #2
We don't need the citizenship question on the census at all. That's utter bullshit as we all know. chowder66 Jul 2019 #6
You see some kind of a difference between "districting" and "re-districting?" lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #5
In regard to whether he said something that can be gone after, yes. nt chowder66 Jul 2019 #7
Maybe Trump will suggest that we count 3/5 of the immigrants, LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #3
I wouldn't put it past him nt SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 #4
Hmm How about counting some people as 3/5? LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #10
We all know the Repukes will try to use the info for the next gerrymandering wave FakeNoose Jul 2019 #8
Plenty of legal people on green cards and visas are not citizens IronLionZion Jul 2019 #9
Let 'em go ahead and put the question on the ballot... Callmecrazy Jul 2019 #11
Isn't That DallasNE Jul 2019 #12
Excellent point. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #15
But did he shoot anybody on 5th Avenue?!1 UTUSN Jul 2019 #13
He's an idiot. littlemissmartypants Jul 2019 #14

chowder66

(9,069 posts)
1. I think he means congressional districts.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:48 PM
Jul 2019

Congressional Districts are the 435 areas from which people are elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. After the apportionment of congressional seats among the States based on census population counts, each State is responsible for establishing congressional districts for the purpose of electing representatives.

https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/congressional-districts-277f7

Now if he had said "re-districting" then that would have been bad.

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
2. After the census,
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jul 2019
”each state is responsible for establishing congressional districts for the purpose of electing representatives”

Would that not entail re-districting based off of the census?

chowder66

(9,069 posts)
6. We don't need the citizenship question on the census at all. That's utter bullshit as we all know.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jul 2019

I was specifically commenting on the comment you bolded.
His comment about districting isn't far off. The census gives an idea of what the people need in those districts and how many reps they should have. He just thinks that they need to know if you are a citizen or not which is wrong.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. You see some kind of a difference between "districting" and "re-districting?"
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jul 2019

Trump isn't that subtle or clever. He let the cat out of the bag.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
3. Maybe Trump will suggest that we count 3/5 of the immigrants,
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 02:58 PM
Jul 2019

like they used to count slaves for representation in the South. Never mind, Trump knows nothing about the Constitution.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
10. Hmm How about counting some people as 3/5?
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jul 2019

Such as those that don't pay their full taxes? Or zilch if they don't pay any taxes such as Trump and his family?

When I say full taxes, I mean what they should pay after the standard deductions and exemptions allowed under the old tax plan.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
8. We all know the Repukes will try to use the info for the next gerrymandering wave
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jul 2019

Chump knows it too, but he has no filter, he just blurts it right out. The other Repukes are far sneakier in how they go about it. Chump just blew their cover.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
9. Plenty of legal people on green cards and visas are not citizens
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jul 2019

They know demographics are working against them and want to limit the congressional districts that have lots of immigrants and diversity, which tend to vote blue.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
11. Let 'em go ahead and put the question on the ballot...
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jul 2019

Can't make anyone answer it.

Or just answer yes. Think they'll check?

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