which dems are AGAINST impeachment?

[mopinko]

we have 80something on the public record supporting impeachment.
pelosi and clybourn have said the caucus is not there yet.

i can see that there are those that are ready to go, but keeping their head down, so let's assume there are 100 yeahs.

who are those on the other side, who obviously have some weight to pull off that balancing of the scales?

i dont believe it is just pelosi.
who else is on that side of the question?

[panader0]

1. Manchin?

[mopinko]

2. i'm sure. hadnt thought about dem senators who would be on the bubble.

he's prolly not the only one.

i was thinking about the house, tho. people keep pointing to the new freshman, but i cant see them holding a lot of sway w pelosi.

[hedda_foil]

6. Senator

[Ponietz]

3. My Representative, Ben Ray Lujan, Assistant Speaker of the House, on June 4, 2019:

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[link:https://www.needtoimpeach.com/congress/ben-lujan/|

[MineralMan]

4. For some, there is a feeling that supporting impeachment

could cost them their seats in 2020. Depending on the district, there are Democratic House members who are there by the skin of their teeth, really. Our 2018 majority came from flipping some Republican seats in various districts. In most cases. the person who won only won by a small margin, and that win required the candidate to walk a very thin line on some issues.

Now, I don't know if those worried members of Congress have justification for those worries, but the worries exist.

There are many House districts across the country that sometimes elect Republicans and sometimes elect Democrats. Enough districts to swing the majority between the two parties.

Add to that the certainty that the Senate will not vote in a 2/3 majority to remove Trump, and it's not surprising that some representatives are hesitant to take a position on impeachment.

Nancy Pelosi knows who each of those reps is. Right now, she also knows that she cannot muster a majority of the House to vote on any impeachment issue, including an official inquiry. If a vote were held next week, it would fail to pass. That's absolutely certain. So, no vote will be held, because losing in such a vote would end the chance of impeachment completely.

Congress is all about politics. And politics has to consider members who do not have a large majority in their districts and could lose over almost any issue. And that's why there won't be a vote. It's not so much that members oppose impeachment. It's that they will lose their elections in 2020 if they vote for it.

[Celerity]

5. well over half of these in House do not want it, they think they'll lose their seats in the election

New Democrat Coalition 101 Members, so many of the new freshman/freshwomen class

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat_Coalition#New_Democrat_Coalition_members_(House)

Alabama
Terri Sewell (AL-7), Vice Chair
Arizona
Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-2)
Tom O'Halleran (AZ-1)
Greg Stanton (AZ-9)
California
Pete Aguilar (CA-31)
Ami Bera (CA-7)
Julia Brownley (CA-26)
Salud Carbajal (CA-24)
Tony Cardenas (CA-29)
Gil Cisneros (CA-39)
Lou Correa (CA-46)
Jim Costa (CA-16)
Susan Davis (CA-53)
Josh Harder (CA-10)
Katie Hill (CA-25)
Scott H. Peters (CA-52), Leadership at-large
Harley Rouda (CA-48)
Raul Ruiz (CA-36)
Adam Schiff (CA-28)
Norma Torres (CA-35)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Colorado
Jason Crow (CO-6)
Ed Perlmutter (CO-7)
Connecticut
Jim Himes (CT-4), Chair
Delaware
Lisa Blunt Rochester (DE-AL)
Florida
Charlie Crist (FL-13)
Val Demings (FL-10)
Al Lawson (FL-5)
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (FL-26)
Stephanie Murphy (FL-7)
Darren Soto (FL-9)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-23)
Georgia
Lucy McBath (GA-6)
David Scott (GA-13)
Hawaii
Ed Case (HI-1)
Illinois
Cheri Bustos (IL-17)
Sean Casten (IL-06)
Bill Foster (IL-11)
Raja Krishnamoorthi (IL-08)
Mike Quigley (IL-05)
Brad Schneider (IL-10)
Indiana
André Carson (IN-7)
Iowa
Cindy Axne (IA-3)
Kansas
Sharice Davids (KS-3)
Louisiana
Cedric Richmond (LA-2)
Maryland
Anthony G. Brown (MD-4)
David Trone (MD-6)
Massachusetts
Seth Moulton (MA-6)
Bill Keating (MA-9)
Lori Trahan (MA-3)
Michigan
Brenda Lawrence (MI-14)
Elissa Slotkin (MI-8)
Haley Stevens (MI-11)
Minnesota
Angie Craig (MN-2)
Dean Phillips (MN-3)
Nevada
Susie Lee (NV-3)
Steven Horsford (NV-4)
New Hampshire
Ann McLane Kuster (NH-2)
Chris Pappas (NH-1)
New Jersey
Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5)
Tom Malinowski (NJ-7)
Donald Norcross (NJ-1)
Mikie Sherrill (NJ-11)
New Mexico
Xochitl Torres Small (NM-2)
New York
Anthony Brindisi (NY-22)
Sean Patrick Maloney (NY-18)
Gregory Meeks (NY-5)
Eliot L. Engel (NY-16)
Kathleen Rice (NY-4), Leadership at-large
Max Rose (NY-11)
Tom Suozzi (NY-3)
Oklahoma
Kendra Horn (OK-5)
Oregon
Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
Pennsylvania
Brendan Boyle (PA-2)
Madeleine Dean (PA-4)
Chrissy Houlahan (PA-6)
Susan Wild (PA-7)
South Carolina
Joe Cunningham (SC-1)
Tennessee
Jim Cooper (TN-5)
Texas
Colin Allred (TX-32)
Joaquin Castro (TX-20)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
Veronica Escobar (TX-16)
Vicente Gonzalez (TX-15)
Lizzie Pannill Fletcher (TX-7)
Marc Veasey (TX-33)
Utah
Ben McAdams (UT-4)
Virginia
Don Beyer (VA-08)
Gerry Connolly (VA-11), Whip
Elaine Luria (VA-2)
Donald McEachin (VA-4)
Abigail Spanberger (VA-7)
Jennifer Wexton (VA-10)
Washington
Suzan DelBene (WA-01), Vice Chair
Denny Heck (WA-10)
Derek Kilmer (WA-06), Vice Chair
Rick Larsen (WA-2)
Kim Schrier (WA-8)
Adam Smith (WA-9), charter member
Wisconsin
Ron Kind (WI-3), Chair Emeritus
U.S. Virgin Islands
Stacey Plaskett (VI-AL)

Last updated:April 10, 2019



Blue Dog Coalition 27 members


REP. ANTHONY BRINDISI Co-chair
REP. J. LUIS CORREA Co-chair
REP. STEPHANIE MURPHY Co-chair
REP. TOM O'HALLERAN Co-chair

Regular Members

REP. SANFORD BISHOP
REP. ED CASE
REP. JIM COOPER
REP. JIM COSTA
REP. CHARLIE CRIST
REP. HENRY CUELLAR
REP. JOE CUNNINGHAM
REP. VICENTE GONZALEZ
REP. JOSH GOTTHEIMER
REP. KENDRA HORN
REP. DANIEL LIPINSKI
REP. BEN MCADAMS
REP. COLLIN PETERSON
REP. MAX ROSE
REP. BRAD SCHNEIDER
REP. KURT SCHRADER
REP. DAVID SCOTT
REP. MIKIE SHERRILL
REP. ABIGAIL SPANBERGER
REP. MIKE THOMPSON
REP. XOCHITL TORRES SMALL
REP. JEFF VAN DREW
REP. FILEMON VELA


No Labels Problem Solvers Caucus 46 Members (31 Dems and 15 Rethugs, it was 8, 24 and 2, but the Dem number grew by 7 and the Rethugs dropped by 9 in the 2018 elections)

Democrats

Sanford Bishop (Ga.)
Anthony Brindisi (N.Y.)
Julia Brownley (Calif.)
Salud Carbajal (Calif.)
Tony Cardenas (Calif.)
André Carson (Ind.)
Jim Cooper (Tenn.)
Jim Costa (Calif.)
Charlie Crist (Fla.)
Joe Cunningham (S.C.)
Debbie Dingell (Mich.)
Vicente González (Texas)
Josh Gottheimer (N.J.) co-Chair
Derek Kilmer (Wash.)
Susie Lee (Nev.)
Daniel Lipinski (Ill.)
Stephanie Murphy (Fla.)
Eleanor Norton (D.C.)
Tom O'Halleran (Ariz.)
Jimmy Panetta (Calif.)
Scott Peters (Calif.)
Collin Peterson (Minn.)
Dean Phillips (Minn.)
Max Rose (N.Y.)
Bradley Schneider (Ill.)
Kurt Schrader (Ore.)
Darren Soto (Fla.)
Abigail Spanberger (Va.)
Tom Suozzi (N.Y.)
Jeff Van Drew (N.J.)
Peter Welch (Vt.)

Republicans

Earl Carter (Ga.)
Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.)
Mike Gallagher (Wis.)
Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon (Puerto Rico)
Dusty Johnson (S.D.)
David Joyce (Ohio)
John Katko (N.Y.)
Peter King (N.Y.)
Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)
Dan Meuser (Pa.)
Tom Reed (N.Y.) co-Chair
Lloyd Smucker (Pa.)
Glenn Thompson (Pa.)
Fred Upton (Mich.)
Steve Watkins (Kan.)

[mopinko]

7. well, i found this tracker. there is not a clear overlap w your lists.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/19/733536620/who-in-the-house-is-calling-for-impeachment

i knew a few on that first list had come out for impeachment. the diff formats make it a little tedious to compare, but there are enough to say there isnt a clear correlation.

is a good place to check people's own reps.
mine is already on board.

[Celerity]

8. a minority of the pro impeachment House members from your list are centrist caucus members

(who number 110 members in the overall House Democratic Caucus ATM.)

24 centrists openly support impeachment, and most all are in the New Democrat Coalition, only three total come from the even more centrist Blue Dogs (Vela) or the bi-partisan and problematic Problem Solvers Caucus (Cardenas and Peters)

86 centrists do not openly support it atm.

Only one of these 24 who do support it, is what could be called top leadership, Himes, although Rice and Peters are junior leaders in their caucuses.


Harley Rouda (CA-48)
Scott H. Peters (CA-52)
Donald Norcross (NJ-1)
Jim Himes (CT-4)
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (FL-26)
Adam Smith (WA-9)
Tony Cardenas (CA-29)
Sean Casten (IL-06)
Brenda Lawrence (MI-14)
Greg Stanton (AZ-9)
Mike Quigley (IL-05)
Brendan Boyle (PA-2)
Joaquin Castro (TX-20)
Tom Malinowski (NJ-7)
Veronica Escobar (TX-16)
Kathleen Rice (NY-4)
Don Beyer (VA-08)
Madeleine Dean (PA-4)
Cedric Richmond (LA-2)
Filemon Vela (Tx-34)
Norma Torres (CA-35)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Seth Moulton (MA-6)
Val Demings (FL-10)

[DeminPennswoods]

9. Most not on the record in favor of impeachment

aren't against it either. Like my rep, they want more information. After Mueller spoke for 9 minutes last month, there was a little boomlet of House Dems coming out supporting impeachment. We'll see what happens after he testifies in public on the 24th.