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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Trump-humping Christian in-laws are actually praying for RBG to die!
How do I know this? Sometimes my wife's dad accidentally includes the email address we use for family stuff when he forwards his bullshit #MAGA prayer chains, conspiracy theories and memes. Apparently his Bible study group has a weekly "prayer focus" and this week it's for gawd to kill Ruth Badger Ginsburg.
So tell me again how Christianity is a religion of love?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)A well known fact.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)They were always bigots, but maybe the MAGA hats and their effect on blood supply to the brain have caused them to lose their ability to hide it.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Initech
(100,075 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)For Jesus Christ NEVER preached the shit these people believe.
Reverse the psychology and throw Bible scripture back at them to contradict what they say. I doubt you will get much more garbage mail from them in the future.
trev
(1,480 posts)I probably know more about the Bible than most of the thumpers, so I've countered a lot of their ignorance over the years. Didn't matter. They just ignored the verses they didn't like.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)They just say their interpretation of Christianity is right and yours is wrong, and there's no way for you to prove otherwise. Especially when they have a congregation, prayer group and/or preachers who agree with them.
trev
(1,480 posts)Christianity is a fractured religion. Each member believes what they want to. I have a theory about this, but it probably doesn't belong in this forum.
woodsprite
(11,914 posts)I say something like "Whatever.... You go ahead and believe what you want and I'll do the same. We'll see who's right in the end."
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Questioning them is not enough. The accusation needs to be made or they won't get that they aren't, in fact, Christians if they think and behave in a way that isn't Christian.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)I asked her when did Jesus preach that? Silence at the other end of the phone.
Her loss.
Baitball Blogger
(46,706 posts)how conservative judges have undermined our country. What part of what they did made them good Americans?
DFW
(54,378 posts)Send it to everyone, their church pastor, the Secret Service, the local press. See if their pride can stand the light of day.
pandr32
(11,583 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)worried, wondering if they should and/or can vote again for Trump.
mahina
(17,653 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)If fantasizing about having sex with a married woman equals adultery, as Jesus taught, then surely fantasizing about the killing of an individual must equal murder.
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)I ended friendships over shit like that when he was President. I'm sure they're praying for the demise of Pelosi and numerous other Dems, as well. Not that it matters. The very fact that the likes of Trump and McConnell remain in office, running roughshod over the country, hurting millions of people is just more proof that there is no "God." Or, at least not one that gives a shit about anything that goes on here.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)there were Christians, including members of the clergy, praying for him to die. This is nothing new.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)That's what mine are and a few of them have mentioned RBG needing to die and get out of the way for a new appointee for Trump.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)But most Christians love Trump so I'm not sure that's the determining factor.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)who is literally everything their holy book tells them is bad.
I have the same kind of relatives. DH and I are from Wisconsin and I'm shocked at what it has become. Grew up in Waukesha, which was full of union workers and Democrats, now it's horrible.
Celerity
(43,358 posts)Now, as our Lord Jesus Christ, who is also God, was prophesied of under the figure of a lion, on account of His royalty and glory, in the same way have the Scriptures also aforetime spoken of Antichrist as a lion, on account of his tyranny and violence. For the deceiver seeks to liken himself in all things to the Son of God. Christ is a lion, so Antichrist is also a lion; Christ is a king, so Antichrist is also a king. The Saviour was manifested as a lamb; so he too, in like manner, will appear as a lamb, though within he is a wolf.
The Saviour came into the world in the circumcision, and he will come in the same manner. The Lord sent apostles among all the nations, and he in like manner will send false apostles. The Saviour gathered together the sheep that were scattered abroad, and he in like manner will bring together a people that is scattered abroad. The Lord gave a seal to those who believed on Him, and he will give one (MAGA Hat) in like manner. The Saviour appeared in the form of man, and he too will come in the form of a man. The Saviour raised up and showed His holy flesh like a temple, and he will raise a temple of stone (new US embassy) in Jerusalem. And his seductive arts we shall exhibit in what follows.
Then, after the lioness, he sees a second beast like a bear, and that denoted the Persians (Russians). For after the Babylonians, the Persians held the sovereign power. And in saying that there were three ribs in the mouth of it, he pointed to three nations, viz., the Persians (Russians), and the Medes (Chinese), and the Babylonians (USA); which were also represented on the image by the silver after the gold.
By the beast, then, coming up out of the earth, he means the kingdom of Antichrist; and by the two horns he means him and the false prophet after him. And in speaking of "horns like a lamb," he means that he will make himself like the Son of God, and set himself forward as king. And the terms, "it spoke like a dragon," mean that he is a deceiver, and not truthful
Hippolytus of Rome (c. 170 c. 236) held that the Antichrist would come from the tribe of Dan and would rebuild the Jewish temple on the Temple Mount
Trump to discuss Temple Mount with ambassador to Israel
David Friedman will meet US president, Kushner (second beast, and Ivanka is the image) and Greenblatt in Washington to mull over events of the past two weeks
31 July 2017, 4:33 pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-to-discuss-temple-mount-with-ambassador-to-israel/
Zehuts Feiglin says he wants to build Third Temple right away
Chairman of far-right party, which is enjoying growing popularity, is a longtime advocate of Jews rights on Temple Mount and has called for increased Israeli control over site
3 April 2019
https://www.timesofisrael.com/zehuts-feiglin-says-he-wants-to-build-third-temple-right-away/
Bettie
(16,109 posts)but you'd think that those who do would be crapping themselves about now.
Celerity
(43,358 posts)and that was just me doing a 2 minute google search, all my own cuts
there MUST be detailed professionally done articles out there that draw even closer analogies to Rump and the Antikhristos ie. ἀντίχριστος
gibraltar72
(7,504 posts)bdjhawk
(420 posts)And I like it (and will use it myself!).
Initech
(100,075 posts)cutroot
(875 posts)pazzyanne
(6,555 posts)but their god is tRump. True followers of Christ do not follow false gods like tRump. As for using Bible quotes, I do that with my sister all the time. She gets mad and walks away, because it does not fit her narrative. Most of her quotes are from the Old Testament, so she and people like her are not Christians with a capital "C".
Different Drummer
(7,615 posts)I believe that's addressed in at least one of the Ten Commandments.
pazzyanne
(6,555 posts)Different Drummer
(7,615 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)But they don't care about that anymore if they ever did.
And reminding them that RBG has a family that loves her will probably just excite even more cruelty from them.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I think that I read somewhere that right-wing and Evangelical groups have already been plotting who might likely succeed RGB if something happens to her before Trump leaves office. And McConnell has already announced that he's going to ignore his own "rule" about not confirming a new Justice if a SCOTUS Justice leaves or retires next year during Election Year (because, of course, he's McConnell and that's what he does)
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Well, it's just like the war against any religious cult, Taliban, ISIS... There are extremist haters of everything decent and morally right.
pazzyanne
(6,555 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Try saying Happy Chanukah and see what happens.
pazzyanne
(6,555 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)You can only imagine how the in-laws feel about that turn of events. But that's a whole other megillah!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)One of the rabbis who did the conversion asked me if I thought it was a good idea becoming Jewish "in these times." My answer was, "When is it ever a good time to be Jewish?" I think that scored me some points because they went ahead with conversion.
But it isn't until you really become Jewish and get involved with a community that you realize just how Christian this country really is. They say it isn't, but it definitely is.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)Different Drummer
(7,615 posts)You are spot on!
lame54
(35,290 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)lame54
(35,290 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)rurallib
(62,415 posts)those prayers and they accidentally hit the Traitor Trump. That would be so, so karmic.
mwb970
(11,359 posts)And the most self-righteous. I can't STAND them!
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)Not a good idea to pray like that. Because you're not invoking God.
Well, these evangelicals have been under the guidance of the Adversary for some time now.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)They are frauds.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)people to die and all.
bigbadR
(49 posts)All I have to say about this is that I pray for the Rapture every minute. Just think, what a wonderful world we could foster if these fools were gone.
bdjhawk
(420 posts)All of the good people who show concern for others, arent greedy oppressors, not hypocrites- they all head to heaven while these phony evangelicals are left with their mouths agape, a moronic look on their faces wondering where everyone went! They are the ones left behind!
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)They get stuck here to fight each other!!
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)NEVER forgive them!
Ms. Toad
(34,070 posts)Than radical terrorists who claim to be waging a holy war have to do with being Muslims.
These are sick individuals, regardless of what they claim to believe.
My father grew up in a Southern Baptist church, beleived all Christian valuestaught him, and became the first conscientious objector from theState in which he grew up in because for him it was inconceivable that Christ and the God he was taught about would ask him to pick up a gun and kill another human being. That is Christianity.
StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)tavernier
(12,388 posts)They may be opening themselves up for way more than what they bargained.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)Im an atheiest mostly, as a way of readjusting the scales in the universe.
Your in-laws might be on for a surprise. Then it's your job to tell them that wishing death on a person is never a good idea.
Yeehah
(4,587 posts)If at all possible.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)If they are capable of praying for Ginsberg or Obama to die, they are also capable of being willing participants in America's march towards fascism.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)But it is the Antichrist they worship.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)They are about justifying their own bigotry, in the name of god. If there was a god it would have surely made itself visible. In the absence of a god these people are just facist.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fake Christian neo-Nazis do.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Local and nationwide?
The hate this administration is fostering in others is a legitimate news story. Sometimes people like this will respond to public shaming. Either way, more should be made aware of what is happening.
Can you share the content of the email with us and possibly any of the entities it came from?
Different Drummer
(7,615 posts)I've long since unfollowed her, of course.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Though not in the form of prayer.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)of Orange Manson.
I lay no claim to moral superiority nor do I invoke anybody's god to act on my behalf.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why don't his disastrous eating habits catch up to him?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,692 posts)If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.
I can't think of a better way to put it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)their messages along chains of friends and acquaintances to millions around the nation every day. And the media almost never mention them. Guess they think they're not cool because older people use them, but then these older people also vote in much higher percentages than young ones.
Everyman Jackal
(271 posts)why don't we write non-christians without quotes?
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)These are not Christians. They're part of Satan's army. WE have to accept that and move on.
Takket
(21,566 posts)to be fair, i shed zero tears when Scalia died (though i wasn't actively "praying" for him to die). he was a menace to society. unfortunately we found out the hard way that mcconnell is an even LARGER menace
DBoon
(22,366 posts)They need to ask Satan to do this. He specializes in killing people.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Because they are cruel and vengeful people.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Cut these pieces of shit out of your life.
nini
(16,672 posts)Why the hell are we tolerating them now?
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I've gotten similar crap. I feel for you.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,425 posts)trillion or so over the course of history.
ConnorMarc
(653 posts)Your in-laws and everyone that thinks and acts like them, aren't Christians.
There's nothing Christlike about what you described.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)I hope that Trump drops dead.....
Let's see whose prayers are answered first.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)so maybe that will even it out
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Since no God worth his or her salt would ever listen to these "prayers", the hopeful hatemongers could just shift gears and invest in a voodoo doll kit or two. And while they're at it, add snake handling to their repertoire, the more nasty and venomous the better!
nini
(16,672 posts)Where do folks draw the line anymore??
I couldn't deal with them at all.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)they're FAKE CHRISTIANS.