BREAKING: Nine newly elected Women of Color Democratic Members of Congress....

[George II]

Jahana Hayes, Debbie Jessika Mucarsel-Powell, Lucy McBath, Lauren Underwood, Sharice Davids, Deb Haaland, Loretta Escobar, Sylvia Garcia, and Xochitl Liana Torres Small all got up this morning, went to work, and did the job their constituents voted for them to do in a highly professional manner.

[choie]

1. What are you implying?

N/t

[Autumn]

2. That Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley

did not behave in a "highly professional manner" when they had the press conference calling out Trump on his racist remarks about them.

[SixString]

25. Didja ever notice...

That those here that constantly admonish others about bashing Dems seem to spend quite a bit of their time actually bashing the Dems.

[True Dough]

29. You might be onto something...

Let's check the tape.

[pnwpolicy]

35. that does seem to be the case

yearslong lurker, first time writer, writing only to say that has been my long held opinion too.

[marble falls]

41. Curious, ain't it. I thought they were quite effective and reasonable in their ...

response.

These will be some of our long term leaders and I for one look forward to it.

[myohmy2]

163. +1

...

[Autumn]

51. And they do nothing else.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

153. Zip, zero, nada.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Autumn]

167. I love these women, they don't take crap from any one. Weak people like Trump and a few others

can't handle that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

168. No.They.Don't!! Imagine if EVERY Democrat in Congress kicked azz like The Squad...

maybe these beautiful progressive WOC can teach them a thing or two!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Autumn]

171. They will eventually be the leadership in our part, I hope I live to see it.

[Gothmog]

192. Pressley will clearly be part of leadership

Pressley is busy representing her district I doubt that the other three will be part of leadership

[Autumn]

195. I'm sure they will be and if you think they aren't representing their districts AND

fighting off the attacks on them from the Orange Fat Fuck you aren't paying attention. Those four women will not roll over and play dead for anyone.

[Gothmog]

210. One of AOS's offices in her district appears to be a mail drop only

Has she opened a real office in her district that is staffed? https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12274341

[Autumn]

211. That is so adorable.

[Me.]

226. You Mean She's Not Using Up That $1,000,000+ Allowance

she's given as a member of Congress to pay for office & staff?

[rampartc]

201. i hope i'm still alive for president ocasio cortez' inaugeration.

[Autumn]

202. Now that's a reason to hang on!

[calguy]

77. It's not bashing if it's an honestly held opinion of what someone sees as the truth

[PufPuf23]

132. Some Democrats are more equal than other Democrats

at least in their own minds and in some realms.

Take comfort in your own commitment to the Democratic party and the promise of a Democratic led nation, I do.

The more equal Democrats are in denial that they are part of the problem and like to scapegoat others.

[MuseRider]

219. +1 n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

151. So typical... getting old!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[ehrnst]

56. That's one way to shoehorn an OP to mean something that confirms one's bias, isn't it?

"To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Monday a resolution in the House condemning President Donald Trump’s tweets over the weekend in which he instructed progressive congresswomen to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

https://www.rollcall.com/news/pelosi-announces-resolution-condemning-trumps-racist-tweets

[Autumn]

57. And other things are as obvious as a wart on a face. NT

[ehrnst]

63. Things are very, very, very obvious.

[Autumn]

66. Yes they are. nt

[ehrnst]

67. As I pointed out.

This is difficult to read, yes?

https://www.rollcall.com/news/pelosi-announces-resolution-condemning-trumps-racist-tweets

As is the OP pointing out that the majority of newly elected WOC don't think that Pelosi is singling out "newly elected WOC."

Obviously, that really stings for some people who were looking for some comfirmation that Speaker Pelosi is as much a racist and misogynist as Trump.

Turns out that she's not.

[Autumn]

72. No, not at all difficult to read. I have very good reading skills and I comprehend what I read. nt

[ehrnst]

138. Your posts in this thread don't seem to demonstrate that you understand

what the OP is saying.

[Autumn]

139. Nice try putting the lipstick on. I know exactly what George posted and why and so do

others. Got a good night rest did ya? Must have been a rough couple of days.

[ehrnst]

140. Ah, you read minds now.

Gotcha.

[Autumn]

141. Patterns ehrnst, patterns.

And some people are just obvious.

[ehrnst]

142. If you say so.

Confirmation bias is a strong, strong thing.

[Lordquinton]

144. You must be a mind reader too!

since George has refused to comment on his own thread.

[ehrnst]

148. No, I haven't claimed to read minds. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else? (nt)

[Lordquinton]

149. You're the only one who brought up mind reading

And made pretty declarative statements about the OP.

[ehrnst]

150. I never claimed to read minds. You are confusing that with an observation I made

about someone else.

Is that clearer?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

152. It's obvious as hell... the denials are amusing!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Autumn]

165. This whole event was golden.

[Gothmog]

194. I am still confused why the fact these Congresspersons are doing a great job is bad

Again there are some great leaders in the Congresspersons named. Why is that bad?

[melman]

200. You're not confused

You're pretending not to understand the intent of the thread.

[Gothmog]

206. It seems that some object to members of Congress being praised for doing their job

That is sad. Two of the members of Congress mentioned in the OP are from Texas. Texas is proud to have two Latinas in its delegation. I am proud that these members of the Texas delegation are representing their districts

[melman]

212. What do you get out of this?

This thing where you pretend to not understand.


The OP's intent with this thread was to bash "the Squad." Everyone knows this.


You know this. Everyone reading this thread knows you know it. Yet you pretend you don't.


Why? Why do you do this? What could the benefit possibly be? I don't get it.

[Gothmog]

214. Texas is proud that we have two great Congresspersons on this list

I know Sylvia and I am proud of the work that she and Rep. Escobar are doing. These are real Democrats who representing their districts by working inside the party. These two will be future leaders of the party

[Gothmog]

223. So you read minds now? That is a handy talent

I am happy to support a congressperson who I have know known for years.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Alpeduez21]

3. I believe the implication

Is sit down and shut up. Horrible to see on DU b/c I believe calling for the impeachment of a racist president is one of the duties elected representatives should do

[Celerity]

6. +1

[True Dough]

30. I'll be your +2

I'll always support a good cause!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

170. +1000

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[MuseRider]

10. Agree with both

you and Autumn.

It is sickening but some people here are dependable when it comes to telling others to sit down and shut up. I did not even look at who said it. Some are uncomfortable with big changes or anyone who would speak around the leadership or even disagree, heavens!! If they are female then it really brings it out. Again, I could go back and look but I do not know who said this. Maybe someone I cannot see anymore.

[ehrnst]

68. " some people here re dependable when it comes to telling others to sit down and shut up."

Not seeing that "here" at all.

Can you specify who said this "here?"

Because there are rules, and the OP remains, yes?

[MuseRider]

79. I don't know about the OP

and don't care about the OP. I did not suggest it be removed if that is what you are talking about and I know the rules here as well as anyone, are you suggesting I did not follow them?

This was an opinion of mine, yours is different and I owe you no explanation. It is totally understandable by the people I was speaking with and they know what and who I was talking about. If I had wanted to spend the day convincing someone I would have posted that way.

I am not surprised you do not see it, we are worlds apart on many issues. I have no need to convince you of anything, there is not enough time and I really do not care to.

[ehrnst]

82. You're referring to the topic of OP, yes?

I don't know about the OP and don't care about the OP.

So why are you participating?

This was an opinion of mine, yours is different and I owe you no explanation.

So does that mean you're afraid to answer the question about who you were talking about when you posted

" some people here re dependable when it comes to telling others to sit down and shut up."

Or are you saying now that it wasn't actualy based in fact, but in your feelings on the topic?

Just so we're clear - trying to justify avoiding owning up to a quantifiable and rather insulting statement you made about "people here on DU" by claming that "it's an opinion" isn't really something that lends credibility to one's statements. The idea that "your opinion" is somehow just as based in fact as anyone else's, and therefore you are exempt from actually backing it up with facts, is a fallacy I normally encounter when asking Trump supporters to back up their defence of his lies. When they don't have any - so they reduce all observations to "opinion" and therefore have the same basis in fact.

I am not surprised you do not see it, we are worlds apart on many issues. I have no need to convince you of anything, there is not enough time and I really do not care to.

Sounds like I really hit the nail on the head.

[MuseRider]

87. You are being ridiculous

and that is me being nice.

I will answer this...I was replying to Alpeduez21. Not once did I reply anything to the OP.

This little game you have set up, I have too much to do to play with you. You know exactly what I meant and that is all I need to say. Your baiting is really sad ya know? You need a new hobby because this is getting old.

[ehrnst]

90. No, I'm right.

And that really bothers you.



https://www.scarymommy.com/not-entitled-uninformed-opinion/

[orangecrush]

99. Same pattern, different day.

Another ping-pong match.

The only way to win is not to play.

[ehrnst]

137. You mean like dealing with Trump?

The only way to win is not to play.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

217. SO true... and so transparent!! Don't let the divisiveness get you down though...

The progressive movement is getting bigger and more popular by the day... the responses you're getting is proof positive!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

173. So true MuseRider... and you we're being kind!! Getting old indeed...

Good for you not falling for the same old shtick!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[WhiteTara]

96. Are you sure you're responding

to the right thread? This seems apropos of nothing.

[MuseRider]

98. LOL.

I can't even see many of my posts. I put the person I was writing to on ignore now so I can't even tell you. It is an unfortunate thread.

[WhiteTara]

104. I guess it was so outside

that it got removed. Just strange rant that had nothing to do with the conversation at all. I was replying to a different poster than you and that post got removed. It was the only post that that person made on the whole thread and it was like it belonged to a different thread altogether.

[MuseRider]

110. That is really odd!

I got it as a response to me. It is still in My Posts. It must be a glitch that happened. It is so rare here I did not even think about that until now. Still, I took it to heart, could not find the post but figured I must have gone off on a rant and you were right! LOL

[WhiteTara]

112. Is Mercury in retrograde?

hahaha

[MuseRider]

113. I have no idea but

something is. I still cannot see your post or any of our exchange. I posted to another just a moment ago and that is there but I cannot see any of your posts or mine to you. Hmmmm. Russians?

[WhiteTara]

123. Why not?

They are f*ing with everything else!

[Gothmog]

122. LOL

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

155. So true... telling WOC to shut up and sit down under the guise of "professionalism"... just wow!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[leftstreet]

14. +1

[ehrnst]

83. What does the OP have to do with impeachment?

Ya lost me there...

[Alpeduez21]

117. The OP insults 'the squad'

The squad had a press conference during which they said the lazy lying steaming pile Hump should be impeached.

The OP implied that those who just went to congress and didn't say anything were doing there congressional duty more than the four congresswomen. I stated calling for the impeachment of a pResident who is unfit for office is doing there duty.

Basically, in response to the OP's implication that the squad was not doing there job I paraphrased what they said and stated I believed they were doing their job.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

162. The implication is plain as the nose on your face... why insult The Squad like this?!

Sad to see... but, hardly surprising.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

179. I know Sylvia Garcia

She is doing a great job inside the party. So is Sharice Davids and the other house members named.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

189. Distract much?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

196. Why can I not be proud of my friend?

Sylvia is doing a great job. Why is that bad?

[Hortensis]

108. Can't you just appreciate a compliment to those

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members and join in it? In solidarity against racist attacks by the Republicans? I do and really think we all should. Respect for representative government requires respect for serving the will of the people who sent them to congress. Of course that’s going to be different from district to district.

[Celerity]

4. smdh

[melman]

5. Holy fuck

No words.

[Autumn]

9. This is right up there.

Wow. Nothing can ever be clearer than this.

[melman]

13. It's about as up there as it gets

I think it just might be the worst thing I've ever seen here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

166. Pretty bad, for sure... but hardly surprising.

The Squad has our backs... we should ALL have THEIR'S!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

48. Sylvia Garcia is very active working for her district

Sylvia and other representatives are doing great jobs.

[Hortensis]

109. And I know Sharice Davids is very well regarded

back home, the local press is reporting her commitment to serving her district and avoidance of distracting national controversy, and her colleagues like her and are glad her district sent her to congress to work with them.

Noting their excellence is not an attack on others who believe excellence requires other behaviors.

[Gothmog]

121. Congresswoman Davids is amazing

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

154. I have one word... sad!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Ace Rothstein]

7. Trash and move on.

[hatrack]

8. Yes, how DARE the four omitted from this post call out President POS over his personal smears . . .

[gratuitous]

24. Can't they just sit there and look pretty?

Maybe I missed the intent of the post?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

156. BINGO!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

180. Why are you upset about duly elected House members working inside the party

Each of these house members are representing their districts. Why do you object to members of the House doing their job?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

181. Riiiiight!! That's what I'm doin... suuuurre!! Good try though...

Not!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

182. Again, Sylvia Garcia is good friend

Why do you object to her doing a great job? Garcia is representing her district and working inside the party.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

183. Okay, I'll play... QUOTE ME where I "object to her doing a great job."

Keep diggin!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

185. You are mad because this thread is discussing the great job that Garcia and others are doing

Why do you object to Congressperson Garcia and the other named Democrats doing a good job? I am proud to know Garcia and I am glad that she is making a difference in Congress by working inside the party and representing her district.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

186. LMFAO!! Knew you couldn't quote me... mindreading fail!!

Need a better distraction!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

197. Why do you object to these Congresspersons being recognized?

The named Congresspersons are doing a great job. Why is that objectionable?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

204. You don't give up do you?! Quote my objection... why don't you?! LMFAO!!!

Cuz you can't!! The mind reading is a hoot tho... please continue!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

205. I find it sad that you object to these members of Congress being praised for doing their job

The fact that you object to these members of Congress doing their job is very sad

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

207. Talk about sad... I see we've moved on from mind reading to just making up things...

Quote please... feel free!! Can't wait!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

209. It is sad that you are objecting to people praising good Democrats like Sylvia Garcia

Link to tweet

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

215. Can't come up with a single objection?! Didn't think so!! LMFAO!!

Keep it up... too funny!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

222. It is sad that you object to a thread complimenting some real Democrats who are working hard

For example, Sylvia Garcia is one of two Texas Latinas who are making a difference

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

233. Why are you objecting to good Democrats for receiving praise for doing their job

I am proud of Rep. Garcia and so is the local party

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

232. Sylvia Garcia did a great job

Link to tweet

[Cha]

11. They did.. they should be heralded, too,

for doing great work in the Democratic House

[Ani Yun Wiya]

43. What work

was done, while they failed to stand in solidarity with these four women?

[Gothmog]

49. The Democrats named in the OP are working hard for their districts

[Voltaire2]

12. Which side are you on?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

169. It's pretty clear dontchathink?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[leftstreet]

15. Wait. Did Trump attack any of them?

What am I missing...

Unless he went after them specifically, your post can inadvertently come across as racist. I don't think you meant that to happen

[Voltaire2]

17. He's declared which side he's on.

Nothing unclear about his intentions at all.

[leftstreet]

18. Apparently The Squad should behave like good house...

...members

[Autumn]

20. What you did there is righteous. Thank you.

[leftstreet]

21. ...

and to you

[ehrnst]

69. According to....

whom?

That's quite the not so subtle subtle smear of racism. Care to own up?

I doubt it.

[MuseRider]

81. Holy cow.

Do you miss all the points or is this intentional. Care to own up?

I think you will come up with something.

[ehrnst]

84. Holy cow.

Do you miss all the points or is this intentional. Care to own up?

I think you will come up with something.

[MuseRider]

89. OK,

I finished raising my 2 sons, thank GOD they are both good lefty liberals.

I do not have to play these games anymore, it has been 10+ years since I had to. I know you are but what am I.

I will say goodbye and wish you a nice life. Perhaps you should read post 22. I don't think you can really see the point but maybe one day it will come to you and make you wonder.

Bye!

[ehrnst]

91. Perhaps using the ignore feature will save you the

discomfort of my posts that hit home.

The truth hurts, yes?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

216. Are you seein a pattern yet?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[MuseRider]

218. I ignored it days ago!

Yes, I have watched that poster for a long time but never had much interaction. Someone else sent me a PM to warn me about the web it was weaving. I rarely keep people on ignore for long but there are a few that live there and this may be one.

As for the larger game, oh hell yes I see it, as do many, but I doubt on this site it will get much push back. I doubt in general it will get much push back.

This is the typical pattern. All of a sudden I saw a bunch of old Bernie hate on another thread that really had nothing to do with him until it did.

SSDD Waiting for the youth to take over. My sons seem to know the deal. My age group has gone crazy!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

220. You get it! It really doesn't bother me tho... shows the power of the progressive movement

and that progressives are winning the battle of ideas. The desperation is showing... sad tho that the responses you're seeing serve only to divide, when we should be uniting to fight the real enemy!!

And you're SO right about the hostility against Bernie... I can find something good to say about EVERY candidate and have wished them all luck, but, as for some, I've never heard them say a single kind word about Bernie. Simply amazing... as it is sad!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[MuseRider]

224. There IS something good to say about all the candidates

just like there is good in all of our democratic legislators although there are some that you have to look around to find agreement with no matter who you are. We need to cover so much that we need all aspects of the Democratic party to be covered.

Psssst......Bernie is not a Democrat, just so you know.

[ehrnst]

231. ....

[ehrnst]

230. .....

Some people have not just a pattern, but choreography...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

177. Nailed it!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[watoos]

37. Trump not only attacked them,

he attacked every person who is not a white, Republican, misogynist, bigoted, racist.

Trump made it perfectly clear who belongs in his America.

[Autumn]

213. Nothing happens by accident. nt

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Trash thread.

[Applegate]

19. Some people spend an awful lot of time trashing progressives.

Oh, well, there's something to be said for predictability.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

159. You got that right!! Why go after progressives?! They're the future of our Party...

they should be heralded for representing The People and THEIR interests!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[ehrnst]

229. Who? (nt)

[rufus dog]

22. You know, life is pretty damn hard. For the most part you make a choice

To be an asshole and make life harder on people, or not to be an asshole.

Just not being an asshole makes it easier for some people to make it through the day, it requires no effort, just don't be an asshole.

Republicans usually can't help themselves, because they have issues, lack morals, lack basic character.

I suggest you read your OP, ponder for a bit, and determine, "Am I being an asshole?"

Now, I admit, sometimes I am an asshole. I am the biggest mother fucking asshole to people who are assholes. I purposely intimidate them, mock them, and just be a general asshole to them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

160. Good point!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

23. I am friends with Sylvia Garcia

She is going to be a great Congressperson. She is a hard worker who cares about her district

[MuseRider]

95. All of them are doing a great job!

I am always happy to see them working in different ways to accomplish the same leftward movement. I am not sure why we have to trash anyone who is working for the same movement just differently. There are an awful lot of people who support "The Squad" and are kept engaged by this kind of activism and there are people who appreciate the quiet, methodical movement of the quieter Dems. Why do we have to make this a fight? We need to forgive Dems who are activists in a different way than we might be. There is room for all and with that we have different supporters and more supporters. We should not let the R's define us as fighting, "cat fighting", not getting along. Why would anyone want to support the boring, lock step, undemocratic movement the R's have right now?

IMO they are all doing their jobs and in a damned fine manner. I like the out loud, confrontational attitudes and actions of "The Squad". I was/am an LGBTQ activist in the same town as the Phelps church, we had to be confrontational. There is a place for both don't you think?

[Chemisse]

130. Good post.

Personally I'm not crazy about the confrontational approach on a daily basis, but so what? Diversity is great. It's our strength. I think this OP would be perfect if it recognized 13 newly elected women of color in Congress, not just nine.

[MuseRider]

133. I agree with you

except I do like the confrontational approach when it is needed and I personally think it is. Even if I did not being an older person, my sons respect it and it is what will get many younger people interested because many of them don't think anyone does care. I also think with the "isms" we absolutely have to stand up and shout "NO!". I understand the politics and strategy of Nancy Pelosi and am not against what she is doing but I AM against people who say we should just sit down and shut up and let her work her magic. There is a place for all of it. There is a need for all of it. Still, we are keeping Harry Reed's powder dry. I don't think this has proved out to be helpful.

I think all of this is the R's defining us as a party in disarray. Seriously, a party not in some kind of disarray (large or small) is a stagnant group of people who are not really trying to change the game by much. We are in such a place I think they are missing the point. Their tiny step approach for at least 40 years has kept us going backwards in a hurry. We have had a few good gains but the R's always take it apart and we really hear nothing about it. There are times I actually think our party is agreeing with what the R's do. That is being too quiet because they do not agree. They just do not want to look like we actually ever lose our cool. This is the time we should be leaving our cool splattered all over every wall. IMO

In politics disagreement and angling for your position and working in the public's view should be the way it is done. Blindly saying, "Whatever my leader says" gets us nothing but backwards movement. The R's are saying it now but they are still blowing their mouths off all over the place, agree with their leaders or not.

We need to not care what R's say and not listen to the people in our party who want us to just let them take care of it and vote for them.

Sorry for the rant. I have had a hot and busy and unpleasant morning and I just sat down and out it came. I will leave it but I so respect your thoughts on diversity, we need more approaches and I think we agree.

[Autumn]

135. It should have recognized them all because they are all phenomenal women.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

227. THIS!!!! +1,000

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[SamKnause]

26. WTF ?

[Lordquinton]

27. Please explain the purpose of this post

I don't understand what you're saying here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

175. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[Tiggeroshii]

28. Never heard of them.

I have heard of the ones who are keeping dump's feet on the 🔥, and holding him accountable to his racist targeting of them.


AOC AYANNA PRESSLEY ILLHAN OMAR AND RASHIDA TLAIB


In case you havent seen their press conference today:

[lapucelle]

119. That list includes the five newly elected Democratic women of color who flipped red seats blue.

I'm surprised that people here have never heard of any of the WOC who helped us take power back from the Republicans in the last election. That's a remarkable accomplishment.

[True Dough]

31. Well, at least there was no further attempt to defend the OP

Because it is impossible to defend the indefensible, after all.

[ehrnst]

75. What is 'indefensible' about it? (nt)

[True Dough]

78. There's are four omissions from the list

It's unfortunate you needed that spelled out.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

176. Like that needed splainin!! It couldn't be more obvious what's goin on...

in more ways than one!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[watoos]

32. Maybe the purpose of this post

is to get Democrats fighting among themselves again.

It appears to not be working.

Congratulations to everyone posting positively.

When Speaker Pelosi unites her caucus with the condemnation of Trump's Tweets maybe we will get a negative post about her too?

[murielm99]

34. Thank you for this post, George.

It is wonderful that we have so many professional new congress people.

I have special admiration for Lauren Underwood:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/lauren_underwood/412776

[Gothmog]

55. Yes, thank you George

[Gore1FL]

36. Why post divisive threads?

Russian bots provide enough divisiveness on their own. We really don't need passive-aggressive behavior to exacerbate it.

If you have legitimate criticisms to levy at Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley, that's allowed. If you might outline them a specific and coherent manner, perhaps a real discussion would follow. You'd be surprised. If you bring thought and reason to the table you might change rather than entrench people's opinions. If you can't do that, perhaps it is time to re-evaluate your own position and examine deeply what your concerns actually are.

[Mariana]

61. Why post divisive threads? To divide, of course. nt.

[ehrnst]

70. Divide us along what line?

[Celerity]

107. +1

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

157. Ding! Ding! Ding!... We hava winner!!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Celerity]

106. +1

[lunasun]

38. The first 50 seconds . They are not alone . Plenty of support around the country .We have their back

https://m.

[TryLogic]

39. Members of the so-called squad have backbone.

That's more than I can say for several I-want-to-keep-my-job Dems, the ones who let Republicans get away with all kinds of crap.

[KPN]

40. Really? Small.

Can't help but notice the non-response to comments above.

Keep pushing buttons George if that's what you enjoy doing. "We're going to stick to issues and not take the bait."

[Mariana]

62. Passive-aggressive behavior is so cowardly. nt.

[ehrnst]

64. You mean like taking to twitter instead of talking to one's Democratic colleague

themselves?

[Mariana]

73. Not any more so

than speaking on the record to Maureen Dowd about one's Democratic colleagues, so the public could read it in the New York Times.

[ehrnst]

74. And what did Pelosi say about her colleagues that was so offensive?

Please refresh my memory.

[Mariana]

76. It wasn't offensive. Neither was AOC's response to it.

A public comment by the Speaker about some of her Democratic colleagues was answered with a public comment by one of those Democratic colleagues. What is the problem?

[ehrnst]

80. So who was the " Passive-aggressive behavior is so cowardly." referring to?

I won't hold my breath....

[ehrnst]

93. I think one can take responsibility for ones own buttons being pushed.

[KPN]

124. True. I'll give you that.

I just find people who appear to intentionally push buttons irritating. Just so I'm clear, I'm not referring to you.

[muriel_volestrangler]

42. Well, yes, this thread is a possible way to go about breaking DU

When Theresa May, Jeremy Hunt and even Boris Fucking Johnson seem to understand this situation better than you, George, you really ought to reflect on what you're doing to your reputation.

[Wounded Bear]

44. I don't think Monday was a work day for Congress...

Just sayin'

[Lady Freedom Returns]

45. We have rules about attacking Dems don't we?

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This seems to be attacking Dems, that are being attacked by the right as we speak..

United we stand, divided we fall..... again.
Have people forgot 2016 already?

[watoos]

53. Absolutely,

the only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves. Trump's 35% base is what it is, it's not going to grow.

[ehrnst]

65. What Dems are being "attacked?"

We united in 2018 and won.

Have people forgotten that?

If this is indeed "attacks on Democrats" then one has recourse, yes? So why is it still "on DU?"

[Lady Freedom Returns]

100. That was a win , but...

We must keep an United front for 2020. If not, 4 more years of the orange one.

[ehrnst]

136. I agree. That's why taking to twitter and attacking one's fellow democrats

instead of going directly to them is counterproductive.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

161. Seriously!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[jcmaine72]

46. Am I missing something here?

Are you insinuating that SOME newly elected Democratic Women of Color aren't doing their jobs? If so, which ones?

[KG]

47. so glad you're not bitter.

[LanternWaste]

50. Well behaved women seldom make history

~Laurel Thatcher Ulrich~

[Bettie]

52. Good to see that no one really took the bait

I'm glad these women of color did their job, just like the four you coincidentally forgot to add to the list.

I'm sure it was simply an oversight, not you saying that they should just sit down and shut up, right?

[watoos]

54. Pelosi is backing these 4 women,

She is putting a resolution on the House floor condemning Trump's tweets as racist. Republicans will be on the record supporting racism.

Remember in 2020 that (R) stands for racist.

[Lordquinton]

58. New day, you gonna defend your comment here?

What exactly are you trying to say?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

164. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[melman]

59. Bumping this

to point out that four congresswomen responding to racist attacks by the president were accused of not doing their jobs.


The OP suggests that responding to this attack means they're not behaving in a "highly professional manner"



I realize everyone reading knows that but I don't think this smear thread should be allowed to just disappear.


In my opinion a big line has been crossed with this one and I don't want the OP to be able to pretend it didn't happen.


So I bump.

[Autumn]

120. I'll join you in a bump.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

172. Nothing new... as Aerosmith would say: same old story, same old song and dance my friend!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[melman]

174. Not new

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or surprising coming from this particular poster. But still shocking to me that someone could sink so low.

And they're still at it now. Even after the 'send her back' chant they still continue to attack.

And not only that...not only do they do it... they actually think it's funny. It's unbelievable to me.

[SMC22307]

184. Thanks for the bump. I missed this passive-aggressive OP...

the first go-round. What's surprising is that so few of his little sidekicks have weighed in but I guess they're following his hit-and-run lead.

[comradebillyboy]

60. Xochitl Torres-Small also turned a very red district blue here in New Mexico.

Xochitl ran a great campaign here in NM and turned a long time republican seat blue. I can't say enough good things about her. Deb Haaland the other Native American woman elected in 2018 is my representative and also ran a very good campaign although it was our current governor Michelle Lujan Grisham who turned Albuquerque blue back in the 2012 election.

[ehrnst]

71. And yet have not accused Dem leadership of

"singling out newly elected women of color."

Go figure...

[melman]

85. Imagine choosing to battle it out in defense of this thread

I mean of all threads to decide to suit up and go to war over. this one? Wow.

[ehrnst]

92. I see that it was important enough for you to join in...

[melman]

94. Yeah

But I'm not defending this extremely ugly OP. So at least I have that going for me.

[Autumn]

101. I think it's more like a hit and run.

No guts no glory.

[melman]

102. The OP was for sure

but someone else has been up and down the thread defending it in extremely aggressive fashion.


To the tune of at least 16 posts at this point. Why they choose to do that is anyone's guess.

[MuseRider]

111. Baiting? n/t

[melman]

114. Yes

But why would someone think engaging in that sort of behavior is the thing to do? And constantly at that.


It's a mystery.

[MuseRider]

115. I don't know.

I already blocked one in this thread.

Someone kind warned me a minute after I blocked. I think sometimes it is to get rid of the people here who don't do what they are told and follow the leader without questioning anything.

Or another choice I am not going to mention here. It really is a mystery!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

190. Mystery? Not really... as the only purpose it serves is to divide.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

158. I've seen worse, much worse... specially when it comes to Bernie.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

187. Epic fail!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[qazplm135]

86. what was the point of this?

I'm not even a huge fan of those four and I think this was really really really a...not good post.

I'd delete if I were you.

Sit a few plays out and come back later.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

188. Think divisiveness... only purpose it serves.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[LakeArenal]

88. Yikes... George II posted this... No link..

So if it’s George II’s op... you ask what is implied, George doesn’t respond...
So everyone is reading George’s mind?

It seems everyone knows what is in George’s head.

Maybe George implied what my GUESS is.

But, then, it’s just a guess.

[zaj]

126. This is disruptive trolling.

It's not an unreasonable discussion, but the technique used - vague statement, provocative point, no clarification or further discussion from the OPer - leaves it to be simple trolling.

Dems trolling Dems.

[LakeArenal]

127. Hmmm not allowed to say that.

[Lancero]

97. So, it's highly professional for women to...

Been seen and not heard?

To sit down, and shut up?

No. Women NEED to shout out against Republicans who seek to oppress them. We should be encouraging women to speak their minds, not push to silence them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

178. This!! I stand with The Squad!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

103. K&R

[Indykatie]

105. At The End of the Day All of Our Elected Dems Should Be Judged on What They Have Accomplished.

I expect that the ones who have garnered the most media attention will not be the ones with the most productive records. That's the fault of our media who are only interested in drama and not legislation or policy. Drama and chaos sells unfortunately.

[lapucelle]

116. Thank you for the shout out to these newly elected Women of Color Democratic Members of Congress.

Dismissive reactions like

"never heard of them"

demonstrate the importance of saying their names.

Jahana Hayes
Debbie Jessika Mucarsel-Powell
Lucy McBath
Lauren Underwood
Sharice Davids
Deb Haaland
Loretta Escobar
Sylvia Garcia
Xochitl Liana Torres Small

[StarfishSaver]

125. How is a shoutout to other Members of Congress an insult to the Squad?

[melman]

118. Bump

[zaj]

128. It's trolling, but your are extending the life of the Troll

To make a point that only really applies to the OPer, has already been made, has surely been seen by the OPer, is either

1) Being ignored, as will all bumps, or
2) Has been heard, and the person is ashamed to take ownership of a mistake

Not much left to gain from bumping and bumping. Other that to further the cause of the troll.

I suggest that it's strategically more useful to let it go away and put this valuable energy of your to good in the next round of conflict or to the broader fight against GOP collapse into Authoritarianism.

JMHO.

[melman]

129. Okay

Fair point. Personally I think it crosses the line into something worse than mere trolling. but okay.

I'll just say option two is impossible because the capacity for that would have to exist. Which it clearly does not.

[Chemisse]

131. It's sad that you cheapened the recognition of these fine women

By turning it into a slam against those who didn't make the list.

[R B Garr]

134. Thanks for the reminder about this, George.

Part of their professionalism I've noticed is they haven't implied that other Democrats are racists. That is a really stupid thing to do.

[Gothmog]

143. What's behind the tensions between moderates and progressives? Numbers, partly.

These are some interesting numbers https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/18/whats-behind-tensions-between-moderates-progressives-numbers-partly/?utm_term=.6524ae33cc32

The basic reality here is that one of the key pillars of the Democratic majority consists in the 43 seats that Democrats flipped from GOP control in 2018. Those 43 districts are way more conservative on average than the remaining 192 Democratic-held seats are.

You can use the Cook Partisan Voter Index to get a sense of this. The PVI calculates the partisan lean of a given district, relative to the country as a whole, by averaging together the differences between the presidential vote breakdown in the district — vs. the nation as a whole — in the past two elections.

Because Democrats won the majority by picking up lots of districts Trump carried in 2016, and lots of moderate, suburban and even a few rural districts, the PVI in most of those 43 districts tilts Republican. That is, those districts voted more Republican than the nation as a whole.....

Now let’s take the members of “the Squad.” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s New York district has a PVI of D+29. Ayanna Pressley’s Massachusetts district has a PVI of D+14. Rashida Tlaib’s Michigan district has a PVI of +32. And Ilhan Omar’s Minnesota district has a PVI of D+26. Those are very Democratic-leaning districts.

In Texas we flipped two GOP seats through hard work and running moderate candidates. If Democrats want to keep their majority, we need to keep these facts in mind

[Lordquinton]

145. Three days now

can you come clarify what you wrote here? Cause it has not aged well, even in such a short time.

[melman]

146. Hasn't aged well at all

And it was disgraceful to start with.

[melman]

147. It's terrible

But seeing as the OP is still attacking these four congresswomen I doubt they (OP) really care. It's pretty sad.

[Gothmog]

191. I also applaud Congresswoman Katie Porter

Link to tweet

[Brainfodder]

193. This never gets old, I'd headline it daily if I owned a paper.

[Gothmog]

198. Texas is proud to have two Latinas representing Texas

[lapucelle]

203. Bump.

[Gothmog]

208. Can I add Lizzie Fletcher to the list in the OP?

Lizzie beat a trump supporter named Culbertson and flipped a red seat to blue. We are proud of Lizzie

Link to tweet

[Amimnoch]

235. That's my Representative!!!

LOVE her! Actually, I'm still just tickled to no end that I have a representative I don't despise for a change!

[Gothmog]

236. Culbertson was a really disgusting person

I am glad that Lizzie won. She is doing a great job but is being targeted by the GOP along with Colin Alred

[aidbo]

221. Lol. And no one cares.

[ehrnst]

228. Your post is #221 in this thread. Lol. (nt)

[fescuerescue]

225. I've learned that "BREAKING" never actually means what it used to mean

And that BREAKING just means something humorous or ironic will follow.

[Gothmog]

234. The Harris County Democratic Party is very proud of Rep. Garcia

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

237. Yeah for Sylvia

Link to tweet

[melman]

238. Never forget

[George II]

239. This is alarming.