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So much for the Happiest Place on Earth. The heiress to the Disney fortune recently went to one of its theme parks undercover and says the visit made her livid.
Abigail Disney told the Yahoo News show Through Her Eyes that a worker sent her a Facebook message expressing how tragic being employed at the Magic Kingdom has become. So she went to Disneyland to see it for herself.
Every single one of these people I talked to were saying, I dont know how I can maintain this face of joy and warmth when I have to go home and forage for food in other peoples garbage, Disney, 59, told Yahoo News host and human rights activist Zainab Salbi in an interview posted Monday.
Disney is the granddaughter of the late Roy Disney, who co-founded The Walt Disney Co. with his brother, Walt Disney. She does not have an active role in the company. Disney said that her grandfather would not approve of the current working conditions at the parks he helped create.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/disney-heiress-livid-after-going-to-one-of-her-familys-theme-parks-undercover/ar-AAEmIz0?li=BBnb7Kz
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I sent a couple of young people to them as interns, they both came back with horror stories of being asked to work ridiculous hours, very low pay (you should be happy to be interning at Disney they were told). It is not a happy place.
mopinko
(70,112 posts)my niece works there, and it took her an internship and 2 contracts to get a regular position.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Why are people spending HUNDREDS of dollars for tickets, paying for China made trinkets, high restaurant prices, so employees can forage for food in other people's garbage cans?
The last time I was at a Disney park was 1977 at Disney World in Orlando.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)Last paragraph. Perhaps she owns some stock.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)She is a major shareholder, but thats about it, from what I understand.
She isnt management or on the board.
What she is however, is very vocal about the need to raise taxes on the wealthy in this country and that includes herself, as well as raising wages for workers.
If anything, Ms. Disney is an advocate for those employees.
Lochloosa
(16,065 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)so if she could, she would, but she can't so she does what she can which is be extremely public and vocal and annoying about it.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)And it would be quite difficult to shut her up. I hope she keeps it up
trev
(1,480 posts)In fact, I was born the year it opened.
My best experience there was when a friend, who was a retired Disney ride engineer, got my family in for free. (We entered through the employee gate!) Spent the entire time the park was open, 8am-1am.
That being said, I'm not a fan of amusement parks, and I seldom went to Disneyland. Never been to Orlando. Never been to the California Adventure portion across the street from Anaheim. Went to Paris when it first opened in 1992.
I remember hearing about complaints back in the 80s that the costumes the wandering characters had to wear were too hot and uncomfortable. I believed them.
The pay and treatment by the company is no different than at such places as Amazon. Big corporations are like that. Which is why I don't like them.
With my family grown and my wife divorced, I'll never set foot in Disneyland again. Not as protest; just because it doesn't interest me.
Aristus
(66,380 posts)current working conditions at the parks.
Walt Disney, at least, was a slave-driver, union-buster, and raging anti-Communist who viewed any form of worker benefit or compensation as anti-capitalist.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)walt was a well known prick. disney is notorious for being very very anti-union.
I've had friends worked at the park and in the animation division and they both (separately) told me that their bosses aren't called dis-nazi's for nothing.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Given Roy's quiet nature and avoidance of the spotlight, far harder to guess what he really would have thought.
softydog88
(126 posts)And from a woman who worked there in the 60's. I guess that's why Disneyland is in Orange County.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)happiness. When the top priority of the Corporate Mission Statement is the shareholders, everyone else always suffers.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)And worked his people into the ground.
He was also racist, and sexist, and Anti Semitic. I don't think he would care tbh.
Walt was kinda horrible. Entry-level cast members should be paid more and treated better, although I know some fo9lks who have worked in the parks and offices for decades, and they get decent paid and benefits, and most are in unions. This is at WDW.
on edit: Ms. Disney went to Disneyland. The cost of living is quite a bit higher in that area of CA than in the Orlando area. Again, all of them should be paid more, but there is probably a bit less financial pressure on the folks who work at WDW.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She's delusional if she thinks Walt Disney would give a shit about labor conditions.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)Using Walt as as an example? Oh boy.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)No idea if he was 'any better', but just sayin'.
I know you like accuracy
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Which is why I referred to Walt to echo the similar sentiment about Roy.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Disney out sourced their Hospitality part of the Business to Aramark several years ago to avoid a worker organizational drive by the Teamsters and other craft unions. Somewhat fimiliar as to how the outsource contract plays. Aramark takes 10% minimum off the Gross Receipts for their Corporate Operational Costs. the balance is used to pay salaries and expenses. As usual,their operating units are top heavy as far as Pay Scale. And it is up to the individual Managers to do what we called "cutting a gross",and if you don't,see you sucker.
SWBTATTReg
(22,130 posts)different corporations...all due to the God of profits. This is not the America we all used to know. That's fine (of course not really in my book).
As workers retire in more and more numbers and the numbers of replacement workers continue to fall (population growth is not keeping up), these kinds of corporations will suffer as they so well deserve, as they finally realize that they can't keep treating workers as disposable.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)AllyCat
(16,188 posts)Overpriced happyness (sic).
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)The easiest way to increase profits for shareholders and CEOs is by cutting wages and benefits. Corporations, as a whole, gotta go.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)For a person unable to get out of a wheelchair,I give Disney an F- rating.
This heiress should go undercover and check that out.
Auggie
(31,172 posts)Its not her fault Walt was anti-union.
Shes trying to change things for the better
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)A one day ticket starts at $179 for anyone age 10 and up. There are some discounts around but still that is priced far out of what most families can afford.
When I was a kid admission was cheap and affordable.
Here are the rates through the years: https://www.jansworld.net/dl-tickets-1955-2000.html
In 1955 when Disneyland opened, admission was $1 for adults and 50 cents for children, plus ticket books that were around $2.50.
Even when I graduated high school 20 years later, in 1975, admisison was still only $6 a person for adults plus a book of 13 ride tickets was $6.75 -- easily affordable even to me as a minimum wage part-time worker paying my own way with friends.
It's just pure greed to gouge visitors and scrimp on pay for workers.
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58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Otherwise it incentivizes them to offer part-time only, no benefits. Maybe look at their work force.
https://economicrt.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ERt-Disneyland-final-2-20-2018.pdf
Most Disneyland workers are mature adults and the job is their career
and their livelihood.
59%% of workers are 30 to 54 years old and 18% are 55 and older.
The job at Disneyland is the primary source of income for 91% of
workers, but full-time employment is provided to only 54% of workers.
The average hourly wage for Disneyland Resort workers in real dollars
dropped 15% from 2000 to 2017, from $15.80 to $13.36.
Almost three-quarters (73%) say that they do not earn enough money to
cover basic expenses every month.
Disneyland employees worry about keeping a roof over their heads.
Over half (56%) of Disneyland Resort employees report concerns about
being evicted from their homes or apartments.
More than one out of ten (11%) Disneyland Resort employees
including 13% of employees with young children report having been
homeless or not having a place of their own place to sleep in the past
two years.
Over half (52%) of workers who rent their housing are overcrowded -
squeezing too many family members, roommates or even multiple
families into a unit that is too small to accommodate the number of
occupants.
Many Disneyland workers do not have reliable access to a sufficient
quantity of affordable, nutritious food.
More than two-thirds (68%) of Disneyland Resort workers are food
insecure.
Three-quarters (76%) of Disneyland Resort employees with children under 18 are food insecure.
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Maeve
(42,282 posts)I knew some of this because my daughters live and work in Orlando (no longer for the mouse) and they have experienced the "magic" first-hand.
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Ouch. She has my deepest sympathy.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)There are many Disney workers on the grounds who are career, not temps. It is not nearly as easy to get a job there as you might think and doing things "the Disney way" does require training. (For instance--you never point to something with one finger; that's rude. The Disney point is a two-finger or whole hand point). And the parks are all year long...the "off" season is roughly mid January thru March, with another brief down time in September.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)Temps also usually pay their own health insurance and all expenses. If anything, temps should be paid more because they walk into a situation ready to work at a moments notice without training or investment from the company placing them.
As a former temp, i can tell you that I did more work than the employees most of the time. Employees were usually to busy going to meeting and "networking" to get any actual work done which is why companies brought in temps. Temps do the work, and get grief from the employees.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Walt Disney World in Florida (Reedy Creek Environmental Distrct).
The kind of place where if you have climbed the ladder, have worked hard to get a good salary when you reach 50+ they will cut you dead.
Fuck the mouse!
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)But in California we desperately need to address the cost of housing. Even making a decent, middle-class wage, its hard to find a home or apartment here that wont gobble up most of your income.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)I always found this look inside particularly skin crawling.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)Thank you!