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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe worst part of this disgusting racism is that it is a direct response to Barack Obama
He shattered all their myths about the black man and they are still pissed. They do not intend to give up one inch of their hundreds of years of entitlement.
Fuck all racists everywhere!
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)They have been on their revenge platform since and they think its working.
If it is working, then the world is screwed.
The fact that Obama rose above their smears and lies and succeeded so far above what they expected, they arent even pretending anymore.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)The North defeated the South but let the traitors get away with it. Had they ben prosecuted and jailed or executed, we wouldn't have this romanticization of the Antebellum South.
The continued hero-worshipping of traitors against the U.S. has allowed this racist crap to continue.
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)The South stole the very best and made them slaves. If they hadnt perhaps there wouldnt have been a war. In addition, had the South won???? They would never plunder the north, right?
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)The Civil War. Weuns in the South never got over it. If you hate the Night They Drove Old Dixie Down whats your opinion of Rednecks by Randy Newman?
Blaming the South for racists today is weak. And speculations about alternate endings to the most divisive war in Americas history? Why even go there?
Blame racists for learning and wanting to exploit others. They arent born that way in the south or the north. Its an acquired fault. Blame them, not where they live.
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Really?
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)The man portrayed is just a reg guy from the south who got played by the rich plantation owners into fighting their battle and he now is realizing it.
But hey, it's like that for a lot of wars.
sandensea
(21,636 posts)I lived in Mississippi for several years. Their (the right-wing white voters) obsession with the Antebellum era, the Confederacy, and the Civil War cannot be overstated.
The best part is, 98% of white households in the Antebellum years didn't own a single slave - and many, in fact, lived worse than the slaves themselves.
Slaves, after all, were valuable property, and as such needed at least basic care. White trash, on the other hand, weren't anything to anybody.
Nevertheless, their descendants still think it was some kind of Eden they were cast down from "because of Linkin' an' the n***ers."
Look away, look away.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Slavery is one of the darkest periods of US history and it is exemplified by the chattel slavery of the Southern States up to the Civil War, but Slavery in the North was not fully abolished until 1804, just 56 years prior to the Civil War. Pennsylvania was the first territory to do so just prior to the Revolution in 1775, but Massachusetts, the 2nd state didn't do so until 1780. Again, that was abolishing slavery, not the attitudes that made it possible. Racism and racial discrimination was and has been rampant in traditional "free" states as well.
We cannot put racism and White Supremacy on one area of the county (though I fully acknowledge that politically it is more acceptable in the region known as the "Deep South" Race is an American problem not a Southern problem.
Go to Idaho, parts of Washington state, hell, parts of California are racist as all get out.
We have to, as an entire nation, deal with the issue of White Supremacy and racism.
rurallib
(62,416 posts)who had put the world on the cusp of a cataclysmic economic disaster.
In their own ways Bush and Trump are myth shatterers - the myth that white guys could never be this bad.
malaise
(269,022 posts)In their own ways Bush and Trump are myth shatterers - the myth that white guys could never be this bad.
rurallib
(62,416 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Andrew Jackson - White, James Buchanan - White, Andrew Johnson - White, Coolidge, Hoover, Nixon, Bush Sr. & Jr. - all White. Obviously because we had never allowed anyone of any other racial group even try. The first time a Black person becomes President, he knocks it out of the park and yes Malaise said, they could not deal with that challenge to their "superiority". That unfortunately is how American society is set up.
Chris Rock had a bit about how strange things are racially in America:
msongs
(67,413 posts)where obama ridiculed him rightly so
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Almost...
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Without Cocaine Mitch obstructing everything, we could have had paradise on earth.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)Think for a minute we'd even have 1/100 of the Trump b.s., bad policies and scary stuff going on?
I-think-not!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Except Sanders DID drop out, and DID support Hillary with over 50 rallies after with and without her.
And Stein got a whopping 1% of the vote. If she took from Democrats then the Libertarian party took 3x that away from Republicans with their 3%.
Can we just stop this now?
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)None of it....the result of the Civil War, Brown vs the Board Of Education, the Civil Rights legislation....changed the minds of dug in racists....not to mention anti Semitism.
We are apparently two countries in one and not much so far has been able to change that. So Obama brought a lot of that out in the open.
Lonestarblue
(9,998 posts)Just for the sake of hypothesis, lets say that Trump wins in 2020 and Republicans keep a majority in the Senate. They will appoint even more racist, white supremacist judges, most likely at least one to the Supreme Court.
During just two years of Trump, we have seen open hatred and systemic racism come out in the open. According to Trump followers and Republicans, its okay to call people racist names and, perhaps more importantly, to take away Constitutional rights from minorities such as the right to vote or even to be in public without having the police called. If minorities cannot vote, Republicans can establish themselves as permanent one-party rulers. With the naked hatred of minorities by Trumps base, what comes next? Some have argued that all minorities should be deported, some have even said they want to kill them. Yes, minorities are citizens and should have their rights protected, but with white supremacist courts what happens to those rights?
I never would have had such thoughts in the past, but we are in a strange situation in this country. A Pandoras box filled with bigotry and racial hatred has been opened, and Im not sure it can be closed again. Will the people on our side have the power to overcome the haters? I know it depends on the 2020 election, and I truly hope that more people wake up to the dangers that are facing us.
misanthrope
(7,417 posts)We just weren't talking about its contents as much.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)gtar100
(4,192 posts)Sometimes that's the best we can hope for. Quite a sad state of affairs.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)misanthrope
(7,417 posts)America has been deeply racist since Jamestown and Plymouth, since conquistadors were slaughtering indigenous people with abandon. Obama was merely a catalyst. His presence heightened the brazen behavior and thought.
ProfessionalLeft
(83 posts)barbtries
(28,798 posts)i'm still on the path to being fully woke but i do know with all that i am that racism is among the very worst of humanity's constructs. it's wrong on the face of it but the damage done. incalculable. and it is so ingrained in this country that many people will not even acknowledge that it's there. how do you overcome something that is invisible to you?
i just want to wail sometimes it's so frustrating and heartbreaking.
spanone
(135,841 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)malaise
(269,022 posts)and I don't mean reggae - I mean African blood
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)One of the things that bothered the fat, nasty sissies with little boy's names the most, IMHO.
To wit, the obsession with "breaking" the best President of the last 50 Years!
malaise
(269,022 posts)They are racists
misanthrope
(7,417 posts)That much has been clear for a long time.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)extreme #ExtinctionAnxiety
moondust
(19,988 posts)Welcome to it.
No (legal) slavery yet (outside the prisons)? Just give Barr & Co. some time to invent a way to abolish or circumvent the 13th Amendment and away we go!!!!!
Never forget the multiple GOP disasters the last real President (Obama) inherited and where things stood when he left--despite eight years of traitorous GOP obstructionism in the Congress. No surprise that the racist, privileged, GOP do-nothings felt threatened by all that competence.
Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)Sure, he's done some things specifically to spite Obama -- and he really entered the political fray with his birtherism bullshit -- but what we're seeing now would be central to a Trump presidency regardless of Obama.
malaise
(269,022 posts)but I get your point.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)This is a regression to when one drop of black blood made you Black. WTF? It's quite an improvement that Meghan Markle is allowed to be "biracial." I knew very few biracial kids, growing up in the Fifties and early Sixties. By the time my daughter was growing up, a number of her friends were biracial: Asian/Caucasian, as well as Black/Caucasian. Granted she started in a Montessori school in a university town where there were a variety of nationalities. What I really loved was her talking about her friends without our ever knowing their skin colors or nationalities. Just once, at three years old, she asked why different people had different colored skin.
malaise
(269,022 posts)Race was never an issue in our home - I have friends from many races and when I look at photos from childhood through school we're all mixed up and it was never an issue.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I'm amazed no one else has commented. In my high school class ( midSixties) of over two hundred, we were totally white. The previous year, the brilliant (and only non white) Chinese guy went on to great academic success. Believe it or not, his parents owned a laundry. The nearby, more industrial town had the black students. Our school's lone, rebel Jewish girl dated those black guys. Parents were still uptight about Protestant/ Catholic dating. It sees unbelievable now, until someone with ancient attitude jumps out of the bushes. There are nearly thirty years between my daughter and I, but, fortunately a far better attitude regarding mixed heterosexual relationships in her case.