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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:00 AM Jul 2019

Chelsea Clinton gave birth to a baby boy this morning





Chelsea Clinton

@ChelseaClinton
This morning we welcomed our son, Jasper Clinton Mezvinsky. We are overflowing with love and gratitude and can’t wait to introduce him to his big sister and brother.
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Chelsea Clinton gave birth to a baby boy this morning (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2019 OP
Welcome to the world, Jasper! DesertRat Jul 2019 #1
Welcome! Iliyah Jul 2019 #2
Wonderful News! dlk Jul 2019 #3
Wonderful! mcar Jul 2019 #4
Always happy to hear of the safe arrival of a Bettie Jul 2019 #5
Okay, Chelsea, it's time to stop WhiteTara Jul 2019 #6
agreed gopiscrap Jul 2019 #7
Liberals need to have more children. "Population bomb" is a myth EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #47
I Think RobinA Jul 2019 #9
No sarcasm, she is right. We already have lots of people on Earth. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #43
Did you post that on her homepage? Marengo Jul 2019 #12
Good grief, no. WhiteTara Jul 2019 #40
All this Ehrlich/Malthusian decline stuff is false. The bigger danger is America has too FEW kids EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #48
Agreed. CousinIT Jul 2019 #13
Wow! llmart Jul 2019 #14
That is akin Mossfern Jul 2019 #17
I have 3 children, only one has children demigoddess Jul 2019 #30
Um, I do not think it is any of your business. Chelsea, it is your choice if you keep going. silentEcho Jul 2019 #20
Zero Population Growth always recommended two kids. calimary Jul 2019 #28
Ya, well. So. Not anyone's business and Chelsea, do what you need/want to do. silentEcho Jul 2019 #29
Can't agree...I had 6. virgogal Jul 2019 #27
Congrats. And you made up for a few 1.67-child couples. :) Hortensis Jul 2019 #37
She is an intelligent person and will be a good mother- she can have as many kids as she wants. dsp3000 Jul 2019 #32
How does one decide a person is "ignorant or irresponsible"? Blue_true Jul 2019 #44
I don't care The Mouth Jul 2019 #34
She can have my two. meadowlander Jul 2019 #36
Since she was an only child, her parents have only had three grandchildren. n/t pnwmom Jul 2019 #39
Welcome to the world meow2u3 Jul 2019 #8
Congratulations Chelsea!!! (eom) StevieM Jul 2019 #10
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍 spanone Jul 2019 #11
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #15
How many is that now? jalan48 Jul 2019 #16
If you'd read the tweet radical noodle Jul 2019 #21
I overlooked it. Thanks. jalan48 Jul 2019 #22
Not a problem radical noodle Jul 2019 #25
Welcome to a world becoming more Democratic daily! marble falls Jul 2019 #18
Congratulations to the Mezvinskys and Clintons! pazzyanne Jul 2019 #19
Congrats to Chelsea and hubby. One more little one iluvtennis Jul 2019 #23
Welcome little Jasper, and God bless the family. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #24
So cool!! Hulk Jul 2019 #26
Congratulations to the whole family. lapucelle Jul 2019 #31
Mazel tov! mountain grammy Jul 2019 #33
Did those 2 NYU students come to the hospital Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #35
Lovely gift for all generations of his family. Hortensis Jul 2019 #38
Hard to believe she is 39 DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #41
I always thought 3 is the perfect number Skittles Jul 2019 #42
We had two and decided to get vasectomy. spike jones Jul 2019 #45
Serious question: Do people think at all about Climate Change mchill Jul 2019 #46
Congratulations, Chelsea and Family!! n/t Niagara Jul 2019 #49

WhiteTara

(29,706 posts)
6. Okay, Chelsea, it's time to stop
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:43 AM
Jul 2019

with the reproduction. We should begin to self impose children limits in order to feed them all, no matter your own circumstance. 7.7 billion people now live on this planet.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
47. Liberals need to have more children. "Population bomb" is a myth
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jul 2019
https://psmag.com/economics/the-depopulation-bomb

Illinois is dying, suffering from acute demographic decline. Explanations for the exodus abound, ranging from political corruption and high taxes to globalization and NAFTA

So too will the Chicken Littles of demographic decline wait for Godot. We stand at the ready to repeat the mistakes of Paul Ehrlich's cult. This time, we age into oblivion.


https://phys.org/news/2018-12-debunking-population.html

Desrochers, an associate professor of geography, and Szurmak, a research services librarian, caution that "population alarmism" and campaigns against carbon will stifle development, innovation and the creativity necessary to solve global problems.

Titled Population Bombed! Exploding the Link Between Overpopulation and Climate Change,

Desrochers and Szurmak write in their book that the predictions of doomsters have not been borne out by reality, and this is not the time to listen to them.

Desrochers notes that "population-growth catastrophism" dates back thousands of years, although it is now mostly associated with the British economist Thomas Malthus, who wrote a book in 1798


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-malthus-is-still-wrong/

The problem with Malthusians, Bailey writes, is that they “cannot let go of the simple but clearly wrong idea that human beings are no different than a herd of deer when it comes to reproduction.”

WhiteTara

(29,706 posts)
40. Good grief, no.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jul 2019

I just finished reading a devastating UN report on the catastrophic future with close to 8 billion beings on the planet with 83% of wildlife gone and 50% of the wild plants. A computer model puts the total breakdown in the year 2040 and we moving faster than that. So, this was just a rant in a safe place (I thought) and should have added

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
48. All this Ehrlich/Malthusian decline stuff is false. The bigger danger is America has too FEW kids
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jul 2019

Economic decline happens when too few kids are born. Ask Japan. Computer models have shown that too.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
14. Wow!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jul 2019

I thought we were the party of "women's choice" and not telling women what to do with their bodies.

Mossfern

(2,493 posts)
17. That is akin
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jul 2019

to when my mother made me finish my dinner because "There are children starving in Africa". Or maybe it was Europe or China?
I forget which, but the sentiment is the same. (1950's)

Disclosure...I have four children, yet only two grandchildren; so does that make up for that?

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
30. I have 3 children, only one has children
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jul 2019

of two grandchildren, only one will (maybe) have child or children. How is that? Probably a good thing.


3 children, 2 grand children, probably no great grandchildren.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
28. Zero Population Growth always recommended two kids.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019

Basically, you parents thus replace yourselves, to reduce the mushrooming population. I always thought that made sense. We stopped at two, but that was only part of the reason. It was more because my body couldn’t take it anymore. Those two pregnancies nearly killed me. Seriously.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
29. Ya, well. So. Not anyone's business and Chelsea, do what you need/want to do.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jul 2019

Choice.

Glad you made it thru your two experiences. The joys we receive.

dsp3000

(483 posts)
32. She is an intelligent person and will be a good mother- she can have as many kids as she wants.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

you should say that to irresponsible and/or ignorant people who can't take care of themselves let alone a child.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. How does one decide a person is "ignorant or irresponsible"?
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jul 2019

I am not striking out at you, the basic issue you raised will play large if we move toward things like Medicare for All or Basic Guaranteed Income, some elements in society will push for deciding who "deserves" to have children and who does not. The thought is a troubling one because if society gets into deciding who can have children, what is next, deciding what the children should look like? Everytime such a state was toyed with in Hunan world history mass murder was the outcome.

I come from the camp that people should only have two biological children at the most and adopt unwanted children to fill out the family.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
34. I don't care
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jul 2019

unless and until she or her family, friends start to lecture ME on how much resources and energy I use.

to each their own, as long as no one being chauffeured in limousines is telling me I'm using too much gasoline/energy/eating too much food. I chose to be child free because the planet has about 6 billion too many people on it. Other people breed, cool, but fuck 'em if they want to comment on my lifestyle, otherwise live and let live.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
36. She can have my two.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jul 2019

At least the kid will be lovingly raised in a liberal family with all of his needs met.

If you're going to stick your nose in other peoples' reproductive choices, start with the Duggars.

pazzyanne

(6,552 posts)
19. Congratulations to the Mezvinskys and Clintons!
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jul 2019

May Jason and all our children grow up in a better world than we are getting now!

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
41. Hard to believe she is 39
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jul 2019

Seems like just yesterday she was a gangly 12 yr old moving into the WH with her parents.

Mom and Dad are going to have their hands full with a 5 yr old, 3 yr old and newborn!

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
45. We had two and decided to get vasectomy.
Mon Jul 22, 2019, 09:23 PM
Jul 2019

Then we thought, we should have another in case something happened to one of them. We always referred to the third kid as the Spare Child.

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