"CNN anchors reporting they are getting tons of emails telling them about Ryan's lies."

[Fire Walk With Me]

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CNN anchors reporting they are getting tons of emails telling them about Ryan's lies. They are even reluctantly pointing some of them out.

Retweeted by William Gibson

[steve2470]

1. k&r nt

[proud patriot]

2. good

[niyad]

3. pretty damned disgusting that a supposed "NEWS" organization has to be told by its audience

that the person they are covering is lying through his teeth.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. CNN stopped doing real reporting soon after the 2000 elecion.

[Cha]

11. YEE--AH! That would make a Great Tweet and

RT!

Edit..wrong letter.

[niyad]

13. anybody on twitter or whatever is free to use it.

[calimary]

12. Must have been an avalanche if they felt compelled to mention it.

Wonder if they're finally realizing that at least some of us are keeping track?

And maybe they're looking at all those emails and extrapolating out what they might mean, numerically. And believe me, those numbers talk. Loudly. When I was in radio, even a SINGLE comment on the request line was carefully noted. Listener guidance and feedback mattered a lot. Depending on the size of the market, one request on the request line might be representative of at least ten, or maybe 100, or a thousand, or more - sometimes MUCH more. The idea being - if ONE person calls in, that means there's at least X number more people who feel the same way, only they're too busy to call in, or they forget to, or they think it doesn't make any difference so why bother.

I haven't told this story in a long time and there are quite a few new folks here, so let me offer this personal testament. I worked at a big station where program directors were changed almost as often as underwear. That always made for lots of firings. VERY unstable time at that place. Since it was a rock station, my part of the on-air presentation (morning and noon news breaks) wasn't exactly regarded as essential programming. And anything considered non-essential was usually not long for this world.

Arbitron was the main ratings service at that time (back in the late 70s - way before the People Meters and such). People would fill out "diaries" of their listening preferences, on paper by hand, regarding when and for how long, for a given time frame. Arbitron had this extra service called the "ARB Talkback," in which it wasn't simply about numbers of listeners but what they SAID in those "diaries." There was room for comment. In this particular "book," somebody wrote a comment saying "entertaining morning news with 'calimary'." The people who got these "diaries" to fill out were random people, completely anonymous, and nobody anyone knew or could be put up to it. There wasn't any way to cheat. I have no idea who wrote that comment, but when the station got all these stats, these sheets always got passed around all over the building within minutes, and everybody soon knew that - out of all the dayparts and well-known jocks and slogans and jingles and playing the hits, it was their little morning news-chick who'd been singled out, by name, for praise in the all-important holier-than-holy "ARB Talkback" this time.

It was ONE mention. And that ONE mention saved my job for a year.

[DocMac]

25. You are a treasure, calimary.

[renate]

30. I think that's worth a thread of its own

I would never have guessed that ONE comment could have made such a difference. Ten, maybe, but not one. That's very instructive.

Good for you for getting that positive comment--it sounds like getting them was like pulling teeth!

[malaise]

33. Great post

Joe Scum hasn't mentioned one lie - he's as excited as the Politico hack

[anneboleyn]

57. I was looking at twitter earlier and the Ryan backlash was strong, so I bet they are getting swamped

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. Sad to say for the most part these days members of the media are pretty damned lazy.

[LovingA2andMI]

19. Well considering the same "News" organization....

Told their employee to STFU when nuts were threw at her, along being told, "This is how we feed the animals" (i.e.-African-American Camerawoman) at the RNC convention, not or either under-reporting news is what they do best.

[Summer Hathaway]

26. Exactly. n/t

[Walk away]

4. Maybe they should try reporting them.

I realize that it isn't exactly news that politicians lie but these constant lies without one small truth must be worth a few lines.

[tjdee]

5. That's funny, cause I have not heard a peep ON AIR about his lies.

I just see them licking his butt.

Oh so great! Oh he made a joke about AC/DC!

Lie after lie after lie after lie, no talking about that.

[elleng]

23. Try MSNBC.

[lightcameron]

37. Lol

[elleng]

53. ???

[Lex]

60. it's one that

hasn't been served his pizza . . . yet (see Post 35 in this thread)

[elleng]

61. Got it. Thanks.

Can't put up with any more b.s.

[lightcameron]

36. They were talking about the lies right after the speech. That's what got

Ari Fleischer so worked up, telling lies of his own to cover for Ryan.

One thing's for sure: Fox isn't going to fact-check anything in Ryan's speech, and MSNBC will claim even the word "Hello" was a lie. Those two channels are partisan by design, existing only to tell people what they want to hear.

[ailsagirl]

45. MSNBC is not the liberal equivalent of Faux--no way

[lightcameron]

49. Right.

It's just a coincidence that conservatives love Fox and liberals love MSNBC. It's just a coincidence that Fox viewer polls (on Hannity or O'Reilly) come out 90%+ in favor of the conservative answer and MSNBC viewer polls (like on Ed's show) come out 90%+ in favor of the liberal position.

Just a coincidence.

Why in the world anyone wants to be spoonfed partisan talking points in lieu of news is just bizarre.

[Gabi Hayes]

54. you're totally full of shit: I watched a ten minute segment on msnbc last

night, right after ryan's speech, and they talked about how EFFECTIVE it was. the best even ODonnell could do in response to the HUGE lie about obama stealing 7 hundred billion from medicare, was tha the answer is "complicated," and the repubs usually win on the simple vs. complicated dilemma, cause most news consumers have no attention span

I was very disappointed in their lack of outrage at what was said by Ryan. was the rest of the coverage similarly different than what they've been showing lately?


they didn't accuse him of lying, misspeaking, exaggerating one time, only praised the effectivness of his message, and predicted the dems would have a hard time counteracting it

nice try, though

[ailsagirl]

59. Thank you, Gabi

When I posted my reply about MSNBC, I didn't have time to explain why there is no comparison between the two. Thanks to you, I don't have to.

[JI7]

6. they can't call it lies, 1+1=2 is just an opinion from one side

the side that says 1+1=3 is the same.

[Dragonfli]

14. Yes, unfortunately that is exactly how "reporting" is done these days. /nt

[altehomme]

52. Once again the media fails to do its job. Since when is telling the truth a bad thing?

[Cha]

8. WOWOWOWOWOW...Admitting getting email And

Pointing some out!!!

AMAZING..I guess the LIES are too BIG To IGNORE?

I just read somewhere that Lyin' ryan told the lie about...oh fuck..I forgot which lie it was..

[Quantess]

9. Reluctantly.

They probably feel sorry for themselves, being put in such a difficult situation of being pulled in different directions. It's not easy being corporate whores when your audience can smell bullshit!

[AsahinaKimi]

10. Go Twitter!!

Make a difference!

[reformist2]

15. #janesville is trending - that has to be a good thing, right?

[flamingdem]

21. yes, wow Walker pissed people off nt

[nanabugg]

16. OK DUers, our turn!!! Sending mine off after this post! nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

22. ...

[davidpdx]

18. Well if they'd start debunking them

Maybe they wouldn't get so many angry emails.

To be fair, I watched for a short time an hour or so ago and they had one of Ryan's twit buddies on from Wisconsin and he was asked about the misrepresentations in Ryan's speech. The anchor (can't remember who it was now) brought up the auto plant closure in Wisconsin and stated that it wasn't true that it closed under Obama that it was under Bush. The guy said something like "I don't know I haven't researched that" the anchor said it wasn't true, then the guy went on to say it was true and the anchor again said that was false.

[liberal_at_heart]

20. why reluctantly? I swear something is fishy with the cable networks

I bet they have been told by the network execs not to be too critical.

[elleng]

24. Not MSNBC, it appears.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021230849

[Window]

27. K/R

.

[hollysmom]

28. OK, they have the e-mails. I looked on CNN on-line - nothing

what are they going to do about it?

[SIDURI]

29. That's why Dems/Progressives have to stay on their case. Under sufficient pressure...

... CNN and other lazy-ass news orgs can be made to acknowledge the truth. They just have to have their noses rubbed it in first.

[renate]

31. I couldn't agree more--it is such a serious problem

On a lighter note--welcome to DU!

[SIDURI]

34. Thank you for the welcome!

[Berlum]

32. Decent Americans are pretty damn sick of corporate media letting Republican lies pass

...so they know they have to call the republican BS on their own...

[lightcameron]

35. Uh, they were talking about the lies immediately following the speech.

[Lex]

38. Ryan was telling lies after the speech too?

[lightcameron]

39. Good try, sport.

[Lex]

40. "Sport?"

What are you, 100 years old?

[lightcameron]

41. 103.

And, based on your post, I figured you to be about 12.

Have a good night. Cheers, troll!

[Lex]

42. Are you disputing that Ryan told lies during his speech last night?

[CatWoman]

43. calm down Lex

Let him babble on so that all may see

[Lex]

48. thanks . . .

infested here lately, isn't it?

[lightcameron]

44. Lol. Read this very slowly, okay?

I posted:

'Uh, they were talking about the lies immediately following the speech.'

'The lies' refers to the lies Paul Ryan told in his speech.

I didn't post anything to suggest that I was disputing the claim. You're just not very bright.

[Lex]

47. Yeah, okay. That makes perfect sense. Not.

But you're doing a great job of showing yourself off here.

[lightcameron]

50. "Not"? 1991 called...

...ah, you know the rest.

EDIT: I'm sorry if you can't understand that I wasn't disputing the fact that Ryan lied. I'm not even sure why you went down that road, other than some knee-jerk instinct.

[Missycim]

46. How many emails equals a ton?

Sorry I am glad they are getting feedback but the nitpicker in me wonders how an Email has any weight

[RKP5637]

51. K&R !!! n/t

[Bill USA]

55. they got those emails because they praised his speech with 'only' 7 or 8 factual errors(?!)

Correspondents Praise Ryan’s Speech, Acknowledge ‘Seven or Eight’ Factual Errors

http://gawker.com/5939136/cnn-correspondents-praise-ryans-speech-acknowledge-seven-or-eight-factual-errors

[Gabi Hayes]

56. that's it for me. time for something to lower the BP

and I don't mean british petroleum

[anneboleyn]

58. He is being called "Lyin Ryan" on Twitter. There were a gazillion tweets about the GM plant lie.