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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:02 AM Aug 2012

FACT CHECK: Ryan Advised GOP Leaders Not To Work With The President To Reduce Deficit

This is a press release from BarackObama.com, so I'm quoting it in its entirety:

http://www.barackobama.com/press/release/fact-check-ryan-advised-gop-leaders-not-to-work-with-the-president-to-reduc


FACT CHECK: Ryan Advised GOP Leaders Not To Work With The President To Reduce Deficit

August 29, 2012

FACT CHECK: Ryan Advised GOP Leaders Not To Work With The President To Reduce Deficit

Despite Congressman Ryan’s remarks about the debt, he advised Republican leaders not to work with the President to reduce the deficit because it would help his re-election prospects. Ryan led Congressional Republicans in opposing Simpson-Bowles and in rejecting a “grand bargain” with President Obama to bring down the deficit. Instead of explaining how they would reduce the deficit, Romney and Ryan have offered is a $5 trillion tax cut plan geared toward millionaires and billionaires that will either explode the deficit or raise taxes on middle class families.

RYAN OPPOSED DEFICIT REDUCTION DEAL BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP PRESIDENT OBAMA’S RE-ELECTION CHANCES

New York Times: Ryan “Disliked” Deficit Reduction Deal And “Was Concerned That A Deal Would Pave The Way For Mr. Obama’s Easy Re-Election.” “Mr. Ryan’s enormous influence was apparent last summer when Representative Eric Cantor, the second most powerful House Republican, told Mr. Obama during negotiations over an attempted bipartisan ‘grand bargain’ that Mr. Ryan disliked its policy and was concerned that a deal would pave the way for Mr. Obama’s easy re-election, according to a Democrat and a Republican who were briefed on the conversation.” [New York Times, 8/13/12]

RYAN VOTED AGAINST SIMPSON-BOWLES COMMISSION REPORT

Ryan Voted Against Report Of Simpson-Bowles Deficit Commission. “Earlier today, Congressman Paul Ryan stated his intention to vote against the plan proposed by the Co-Chairmen of the Fiscal Commission. … Regardless of the outcome of Friday’s vote, the Fiscal Commission has been a success. Due in large part to the leadership of the Co-Chairmen, Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, the proposal and the commission have successfully launched a critical debate facing this country: how to get the Federal government’s fiscal house in order and ensure a prosperous future for coming generations of Americans. This is the debate I’ve worked hard to advance with my own reform proposals, and it has been a privilege to serve as an active participant in the Fiscal Commission this past year.” [Rep. Paul Ryan press release, 12/2/10]

Ryan Cited Insufficient Attention To Health Care Entitlements As His Reason For Opposing Report. “Tasked with an extraordinarily difficult challenge, the Co-Chairmen put forth a comprehensive and provocative proposal to help tackle the debt threat, advancing a sorely needed debate on these critical issues. Their proposal is a serious and credible plan, but I cannot support it. We must address the explosive growth of our health care entitlement programs at the structural level to meet the fiscal and economic challenges confronting this nation. This plan not only lacks needed structural reforms, but would in fact take us in the wrong direction on health care by accelerating the adverse consequences of the President’s health care law. It also relies too heavily on tax increases, which would stifle the very growth and prosperity that are the essential preconditions of a sustainable fiscal path.” [Rep. Paul Ryan press release, 12/2/10]

Ryan Said Final Report Did Not Address “Elephant In The Room” Of Health Care. “Ryan praised much of the work of debt commission, headed by former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles and former Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyo., though he voted against its final report. He said he did so “because it didn’t address the elephant in the room: health care. ... If you’re going to fix this fiscal crisis, you’ve got to take on health care.” The Bowles-Simpson commission’s recommended cancellation of the tax exclusion for employer-based health care plans “accelerates the expansion of Obamacare,” which he’s convinced will cause employers to transfer millions of workers into government-subsidized exchanges, exploding costs.” [Mort Kondracke op-ed, San Gabriel Valley Tribune, 12/13/10]

Ryan Hit Simpson-Bowles Commission For Not Repealing Health Care Reform. “The fatal flaw of President Obama’s fiscal commission is that it left the president’s partisan health care law virtually untouched. No solution to our fiscal challenge can afford to ignore the core driver of our debt, which is government spending on health care. And the simple truth is that the president’s law accelerates our fiscal day of reckoning by expanding Medicaid, raiding Medicare and creating a brand new health care entitlement program.” [Ryan op-ed, USA Today, 4/4/12]

Ryan Later Said He Had No Regrets About Opposing Simpson-Bowles. “BURNETT: Do you have any regrets about not voting for Simpson-Bowles? RYAN: No. BURNETT: When I look at the one-page summary and your 98-page report, I mean, you’re 80 percent overlap. Venn diagram would be pretty favorable. RYAN: Yes. Alan and Erskine, I really like the guys a lot. I’m friends with them. What I didn’t want to do was to go to the country and suggest that I’m fixing the problem like with Simpson-Bowles when I know it’s not. Because it ignored healthcare.” [Ryan interview with Erin Burnett, “Erin Burnett OutFront,” CNN, 3/20/12]

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS A BALANCED PLAN TO BRING DOWN OUR DEFICITS AND STABILIZE THE DEBT THAT REFLECTS THE APPROACH OF THE SIMPSON BOWLES FISCAL COMMISSION

The New Jersey Star-Ledger PolitiFact: President Obama Has “Outlined Deficit Reduction Measures Similar To Those Proposed By The Commission.” “PolitiFact New Jersey investigated whether Obama failed to ‘stand up for the bipartisan debt solutions of the Simpson-Bowles Commission,’ and found that Christie is not entirely right. The president did not fully embrace the commission’s recommendations at the outset, but Obama later outlined deficit reduction measures similar to those proposed by the commission. Even the commission’s co-chairs -- former White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles under President Bill Clinton, and former Republican U.S. Sen. Alan Simpson -- have said so. ‘We are encouraged that the President has embraced a balanced, comprehensive approach to deficit reduction similar to that outlined in the Fiscal Commission report,’ Bowles and Simpson said in an April 13 press release.” [New Jersey Star-Ledger, PolitiFact, 9/29/2011]

The President’s Budget, Which Incorporates Deficit Reduction Enacted In 2011, Would Cut The Deficit By More Than $4 Trillion Over The Next Decade. “That is why in this Budget, the President again has put forward a plan that will, together with the deficit reduction enacted last year, cut the deficit by more than $4 trillion over the next decade. This would put our Nation on the right course toward a level of deficits of below 3 percent of GDP by the end of the decade.” [FY2013 Budget, White House Office Of Management And Budget, February 2012]

Center On Budget And Policy Priorities: President Obama’s Budget Would Stabilize The Debt Over The Coming Decade Through “A Balanced Combination Of Spending Cuts And Revenue Increases.” “If Congress enacted the Obama budget in full and its economic assumptions proved correct, the debt would stabilize over the coming decade although, as the White House acknowledges, policymakers would have to subsequently enact significant further deficit reduction to keep the debt stable in future decades. The budget either achieves or approaches this key fiscal target for the coming decade with several trillion dollars in deficit reduction, through a balanced combination of spending cuts and revenue increases.” [Center On Budget And Policy Priorities, 2/16/12]
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FACT CHECK: Ryan Advised GOP Leaders Not To Work With The President To Reduce Deficit (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2012 OP
Treasonous Creep. nt Cha Aug 2012 #1
creep, yes, that's the right word tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #4
I prefer treasonous, but maybe that's just me renate Aug 2012 #7
K&R silverweb Aug 2012 #2
I really hope the debate moderators are COMPETENT ecstatic Aug 2012 #3
Bush! TheObamaPlan Aug 2012 #5
The high deficit? Why yes, it is. JHB Aug 2012 #6
President Obama was right when he said "Were gonna see how serious they are about the debt". nt Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #8
Where is the FACT CHECK? cabu Sep 2012 #9
What do you need? Video? Audio? DURHAM D Sep 2012 #10
Something. cabu Sep 2012 #11
Facts exist outside of factcheck.org DURHAM D Sep 2012 #12
Yes, they do. cabu Sep 2012 #13
fact check - just two words and the Annenburg group does DURHAM D Sep 2012 #14

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
4. creep, yes, that's the right word
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:03 AM
Aug 2012

someone who will do anything and say anything -- living up to his brown-noser reputation from high school... only doing it on a massive scale

everyone in that hall walked out with a little bit of Ryan's nose up their collective cracks

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
3. I really hope the debate moderators are COMPETENT
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:58 AM
Aug 2012

and confront them on their lies and hypocrisy. That might be the last best chance to have the truth exposed...because, at this point, credible journalists aren't allowed to interview RR and ask tough questions.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
6. The high deficit? Why yes, it is.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:31 AM
Aug 2012

Tax cuts for the wealthy before the debt was paid off, 2 wars run on a credit card, championing the very deregulation and financial casino-ism that cause the worst economy since the Depression (which cut tax revenues AND shot up the cost of safety net programs).

cabu

(4 posts)
9. Where is the FACT CHECK?
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:39 PM
Sep 2012

highplainsdem: This would be quite treasonous, but is there substantiation? I can find nothing on this subject on factcheck.org. I do see it on the Obama press release, thanks to your link. But why is it labelled FACT CHECK if it is not on the fact-check website? So all you are saying so far is that "Obama claims that ...", and he claims it is a "FACT CHECK," whatever that means.
- Don't you agree?

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
12. Facts exist outside of factcheck.org
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

I am not sure what to make of the fact that you seem to think that they do not. Especially given the fact that factcheck is operated by the Annenburg Public Policy Center and is, in fact, not non-partisan.

IOWs, facts exist in the world and it does not require comments from factcheck to make it so and please remember that factcheck always has its own version of the truth.

However, here you go - http://factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/

cabu

(4 posts)
13. Yes, they do.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sep 2012

I don't expect everything on Obama's website to be on FactCheck.org--just those things labeled FACT CHECK.

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