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.@RepJoeKennedy: It's time for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump.
Tell Congress to Impeach Trump now: (877) 650-0039
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Even if it's some lost cause nincompoop like Louie Gohmert or Stephen King. Let your congressperson know (politely!) that you think Trump needs to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office. At the very least, they can't go in front of reporters and lie that they haven't heard anything against President Trump, because YOU contacted their office.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Trump and Putin and pretty much all the other thugs are terrified of him. I love him so much. Trump is trying to run as the "modern day" Kennedys. Seriously. Oh I love JPK# so much. My heart aches that he's not our nominee.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)is ready to run for president. I really think he would be a great president, and not just because of his name. He has all of the qualities required to be an excellent world leader and the president of our nation.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)or loses by a small margin, we will be headed for civil war. This is why Speaker Pelosi said the win has to be overwhelming. The only one who can do that is Rep Joe Kennedy because he would be great and because of the positive memories he would evoke regarding Camelot especially among white voters. But it is also the MOST powerful memory we have that binds ALL Americans together. We all loved the Kennedys. They are the unifying symbol of American exceptionalism and patriotism that we need at this moment. I would pick Juan Castro as his VP. Because what is more awesome than having two men each from a twin set running the country. The media would go crazy happy.
teach1st
(5,935 posts)In analyzing the Presidents efforts to have Lewandowski deliver a message directing Sessions to publicly announce that the Special Counsel investigation would be confined to future election interference, the following evidence is relevant to the elements of obstruction of justice:
a. Obstructive act. The Presidents effort to send Sessions a message through Lewandowski would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.
The President sought to have Sessions announce that the President shouldnt have a Special Prosecutor/Counsel and that Sessions was going to meet with the Special Prosecutor to explain this is very unfair and let the Special Prosecutor move forward with investigating election meddling for future elections so that nothing can happen in future elections. The President wanted Sessions to disregard his recusal from the investigation, which had followed from a formal DOJ ethics review, and have Sessions declare that he knew for a fact that there were no Russians involved with the campaign because he was there. The President further directed that Sessions should explain that the President should not be subject to an investigation because he hasnt done anything wrong. Taken together, the Presidents directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign, with the Special Counsel being permitted to move forward with investigating election meddling for future elections.
b. Nexus to an official proceeding. As described above, by the time of the Presidents initial one-on-one meeting with Lewandowski on June 19, 2017, the existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by the Special Counsel was public knowledge. By the time of the Presidents follow-up meeting with Lewandowski, (redacted, grand jury)
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c. Intent. Substantial evidence indicates that the Presidents effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsels investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the Presidents and his campaigns conduct.
As previously described, see Volume II, Section II.B, supra, the President knew that the Russia investigation was focused in part on his campaign, and he perceived allegations of Russian interference to cast doubt on the legitimacy of his election. The President further knew that the investigation had broadened to include his own conduct and whether he had obstructed justice. Those investigations would not proceed if the Special Counsels jurisdiction were limited to future election interference only.
The timing and circumstances of the Presidents actions support the conclusion that he sought that result. The Presidents initial direction that Sessions should limit the Special Counsels investigation came just two days after the President had ordered McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed, which itself followed public reports that the President was personally under...
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...investigation for obstruction of justice. The sequence of those events raises an inference that after seeking to terminate the Special Counsel, the President sought to exclude his and his campaigns conduct from the investigations scope. The President raised the matter with Lewandowski again on July 19, 2017, just days after emails and information about the June 9, 2016 meeting between Russians and senior campaign officials had been publicly disclosed, generating substantial media coverage and investigative interest.
FredSanderson
(27 posts)analysis, while fake AG Barr has thrown a hideously ugly and threadbare legal rug over the whole of it to please his master.
Fucking national media, so your fucking jobs, it is why you get constitutional protections, so you can do the job of protecting democracy. Notice how your very own freedom of press is being attacked and eroded daily by a fascist president.
First they came for the Mexicans, but I was not a Mexican. Remember where that led? Eventually, right to your doorsteps.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)Also organize a giant march, bigger than the Women's March, like Puerto Rico and Hong Kong over the Summer. Nancy is allowing the initiation of an investigation because she knows that the Dems' great legislation is going nowhere due to Mitch and most Americans don't know this. She knows that the Dems need an issue for 2020 and oversight is it. We can permanently mark the Racist Rapist as a POTUS who who is a criminal and broke the law and he will have this next to his name in the History books. He will go even crazier. Who cares if the Senate impeaches him or not...he will have a black mark next to his name and that is a big deal. The Dems have a responsibility to conduct oversight and this will be our "issue" for 2020.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I do worry that if this POTUS goes "even crazier" that he will attempt a Reichstag Fire/9/11 sequel as a diversion. He has remarked that 9/11 got everyone behind Bush.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)in a straitjacket.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)will prevent public outbursts. However, he can still call a military strike, and he has others who can pull off a Reichstag Fire type incident - likely to blame immigrants at the Southern border, or Iran.
He says on television that the revolutionary war was about taking airports, and Pence hasn't said word one about invoking the 25th amendment.
Reagan was well into dementia before the end of his second term, and he made it to the end.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)either he or someone else will attempt to end it/him once and for all.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 28, 2019, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)
Those are neither realistic or wise to wish for.
Any POTUS who dies in office is remembered better than they were.
Trump lashes out, he doesn't have self-doubt. He knows that he's safe from prosecution while in office.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)and he isn't the brightest bulb as well as being crazy and unhinged so who knows about his future. Maybe a bucket of fried chicken will be his downfall.
If we do not fight with everything we have, including impeachment, we will surely lose. I have had enough losing.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)Petition formally announcing in DC federal court the impeachment inquiry:
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/FINAL%20PETITION.pdf?
Pursuant to Local Rule 57.6, the United States House of Representatives, Committee on the Judiciary (the Committee), through undersigned counsel, respectfully requests that this Court issue an order pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e) authorizing the release to the Committee of: (1) all portions of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIs Report on the Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election (the Mueller Report) that were redacted pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e); (2) any underlying transcripts or exhibits referenced in the portions of the Mueller Report that were redacted pursuant to Rule 6(e); and (3) transcripts of any underlying grand jury testimony and any grand jury exhibits that relate directly to (A) President Trumps knowledge of efforts by Russia to interfere in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election; (B) President Trumps knowledge of any direct or indirect links or contacts between individuals associated with his Presidential campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russias election interference efforts; (C) President Trumps knowledge of any potential criminal acts by him or any members of his administration, his campaign, his personal associates, or anyone associated with his administration or campaign; or (D) actions taken by former WhiteHouse Counsel Donald F. McGahn II during the campaign, the transition, or McGahns period of service as White House Counsel.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016236325
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)that we are having and which have already begun, just like Trump was not colluding with Russia and obstructing the justice he obstructed and conspired with cohorts and friends and family in the Tower who were not involved.
That's the way you juice an asshole. Throw it right back at him and he'll never figure it out, even as he's removed from office.