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You don't know! I don't know!
I am of the opinion that it will hurt him and that the Senate ignoring the overwhelming evidence of his crimes will hurt the GOP in 2020.
Just my take on things. I could well be wrong.
But some people here think they know that Trump getting a pass by the Senate assures him victory in 2020.
They don't know that, we are in unprecedented territory with this POS POTUS, so maybe we should stop acting like the people here who don't share our conjectures are stupid, we all don't know shit and can only go by our best guesses.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)But we can always learn from the past. The Nixon impeachment was successful because the Senate Watergate committee hearings spent a year exposing Nixons crimes to the people. The Clinton impeachment wasnt because Republicans rushed impeachment based on a special counsel report alone.
Since the is no chance of a conviction in the Senate, why take the chance and hand Trump a talking point that he was exonerated. The goal is to get Trump out of office as things stand now the best way to do that is to vote him out next November.
edhopper
(33,649 posts)do the same as the Watergate Hearings?
Why take the chance of him saying the House could not impeach because no evidence of wrongdoing?
You know for sure that impeaching him will not hurt him?
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)especially when the Senate wont convict.
Why not focus on the best, and currently only, way to get him out of office, the election?
edhopper
(33,649 posts)lets him sell enough Americans his innocence and helps him win in 2020?
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)What evidence is there that that will happen or will sell more people than an acquittal in the Senate?
edhopper
(33,649 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)But he will claim victory when the Senate does not remove him.
Forget it. Tear his ass up in a landslide in 2020.
edhopper
(33,649 posts)when the House doesn't impeach.
And enough voters will (especially the ones who don't pay attention) will think he did nothing wrong.
It's your opinion, you don't know what will happen. Neither do I.
A landslide would be nice, but the Electoral College is his friend.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)And Senate Republicans will be tarred with the feces of this POtuS when they fail to convict.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)and it hasn't mattered a bit. In fact, then revel in it.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)But millions of voters do not follow all of this as closely as you or I.
Shining the bright spotlight of impeachment hearings on Trumpian feces will smear it more widely and effectively where it belongs heading into November 2020.
Bettie
(16,138 posts)even if the Senate voted to remove him, he'd claim he was totally exonerated because Senator X, Y, and Z failed to convict.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)... should in no way influence whether or not the Democrats decide to impeach.
Bettie
(16,138 posts)what he will or will not say should not influence anyone with regard to impeachment.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)Time for Democrats to turn the tables by exerting control with all the powers at our disposal.
edhopper
(33,649 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,844 posts)Is like Barry Bonds having the asterisk stain on his MLB career due to Steroid use to enhance his game.
Donald Trump will not be able to shed that stain,of impeachment ever. The Senate Republicans will be labeled "Racist enablers" who can run, but not hide.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)... do the right thing!
Members of Congress have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
What message does it send when the US House of Representatives doesn't even make an attempt to fulfill that oath by impeaching a president who has clearly committed high crimes & misdemeanors and is the asset of a foreign adversary?
On the other hand, if this domestic enemy is impeached by the House but the Senate doesn't convict, a very different message will be sent about Republicans failing to uphold their sworn oath.
edhopper
(33,649 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)Trump will say that it helps him.
The media will report on the side of Trump and the Republicans.
They will do everything they can to stop the Democrats from hurting themselves in the next election, They are so concerned about the Democrats.
NotASurfer
(2,156 posts)If Moscow Mitch thinks the minions will hold firm, he lets the trial proceed
OTOH if there are cracks in the firewall, he ignores the impeachment and refuses to start a Senate trial
Maybe the House inquiry needs to throw light on how Mitch is being compromised and how he is obstructing justice while they're at it
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)and flail at all that is about. When the dust settles won't it be fun
to see Widdle Twumpy on the run!
Voltaire2
(13,234 posts)the impeachment investigation.
It is about exposing the truth, about the process. Of course the Senate isnt going to do anything. That is irrelevant.