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diva77

(7,640 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:32 PM Jul 2019

GA -new details on the state actually destroying evidence --- including computer servers, databases

and voting system memory cards.

GA's 2018 Election Was '100% Outsourced to Three People in a Garage': 'BradCast' 7/29/2019
Guest: Marilyn Marks of Coalition for Good Governance

https://bradblog.com/?p=13078
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Marks shares a number of remarkable updates in the case we've been following since she filed it back in 2017. The updates include new details on the state actually destroying evidence --- including computer servers, databases and voting system memory cards --- needed in the case, and lies told to the court by the defendants about security issues related to the voting system. The misleading statements came from the office of Georgia's Republican Sec. of State Brad Raffensberger and the state's former GOP Sec. of State Brian Kemp. Kemp is now Governor of the state, after he is said to have narrowly defeated popular Democrat Stacey Abrams last November on the very same unverifiable computer voting systems overseen at the time by then SoS Kemp.

Marks details the extraordinary security measures plaintiffs were forced to undergo in order to have their experts even partially examine the ballot database used by Georgia which, the state had claimed, included customized, "super-secret" security measures built in to the system that made it completely different from identical --- and completely hackable --- Diebold touchscreen systems used elsewhere in the country. As it turns out, after spending thousands of dollars to create secure "clean rooms" at Georgia's insistence to allow plaintiffs' experts to examine the databases in two different locations (Michigan and Washington, D.C.) those experts found there was, in fact, no special customized "super-secret" security measures. The database structures are identical to those found available for download on the Internet --- from many different states --- going back as early as 2002, when Georgia first adopted their current, easily-manipulated voting systems.

"Let's be clear that we've still not had a chance to look at the system or the programming in the voting machines or the servers," she told me. "We were allowed to look at a database that is used to program the memory cards, just one tiny piece. There was a huge fight because the state lied to the judge, and lied to us, and said that this database was its 'crown jewel' of security, [that] nobody else using Diebold had this super-secret database."

"We found out that, just as we had told the court, their database is just like every other state's database, many of them published on the Internet as public records. They just found it so convenient to lie to the court in order to keep anyone from having easy access to see what a mess they're making," she says.

On the destruction of evidence, she tells me: "The Secretary of State destroyed their two primary servers --- the first one four days after we sued them, the next one a few hours after the case was assigned to Judge Totenberg. From there, we asked to start preserving memory cards, internal memories of the voting machines themselves, and they just completely defied every request. Even the judge told them to go to the FBI, where there was a partial copy of one of the servers, and be sure that thing did not disappear, be sure it was retained, and they even refused to do that."

She also details a revelation from one of the witnesses on the stand last week which elicited gasps in the courtroom after he admited that "100%" of Georgia's ballots are programmed by three independent contractors who do not work for the state and who prepare the ballots at home --- on potentially unprotected WiFi setups. That, despite the extraordinary --- and expensive --- measures plaintiffs were forced to enact in order just to have their experts view the state's "super-secret" election system database.
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Audio interview with Marilyn Marks as well at:
https://bradblog.com/audio/BradCast_BradFriedman_TrumpStochasticTerror_GilroyShooting_MarilynMarks-GALiesSpoilation_072919.mp3 (starts at 18:10)
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For the doubters who say 'no votes were flipped '-- why would you give the benefit of the doubt to rethugs who destroy evidence before it can be examined by the plaintiffs???????

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GA -new details on the state actually destroying evidence --- including computer servers, databases (Original Post) diva77 Jul 2019 OP
Georgia is showing the way for other states. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #1
The people fighting for election integrity in GA are extremely brave and extremely dedicated. diva77 Jul 2019 #3
on edit: Georgia gop is showing the way. Thanks for the links. Kurt V. Jul 2019 #4
In 2020 paleotn Jul 2019 #10
How many other state did this in 2016 as well? triron Jul 2019 #2
I suspect it is the rule and not the exception. I remember reading about the overt obstruction in diva77 Jul 2019 #5
There you go. No one will though. We are not allowed to know our elections are corrupted. triron Jul 2019 #24
Bradblog, that's your source? Surely there's something better. Hoyt Jul 2019 #6
The plaintiff in the GA lawsuit spoke directly to Brad. No point in questioning the messenger here. diva77 Jul 2019 #7
Can you please explain your criticism of BradBlog? PufPuf23 Jul 2019 #17
brad double,triple checks any thing he prints questionseverything Jul 2019 #19
+1000 This!!! diva77 Jul 2019 #20
Hoyt, that's your reponse? Surely there's something better. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #23
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #8
Their governor is illegitimate. paleotn Jul 2019 #9
SO Stacy Abrahms really should be GOV demtenjeep Jul 2019 #11
K & R Duppers Jul 2019 #12
Kick & Rec & Bookmarked. nt Ilsa Jul 2019 #13
Republicans despise democracy Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #14
Kick and rec BadgerMom Jul 2019 #15
Anyone going to jail over this... dhill926 Jul 2019 #16
I wish! It's really the perfect crime -- elected officials fear retribution if they try to address diva77 Jul 2019 #18
I have no doubt they were flipped Bradical79 Jul 2019 #21
Agree 100% diva77 Jul 2019 #22

diva77

(7,640 posts)
3. The people fighting for election integrity in GA are extremely brave and extremely dedicated.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019

I hope people will contribute $$ to the cause -- this is one of the most important things taking place right now and legal expenses are very costly.

https://www.coalitionforgoodgovernance.org/

https://fairfight.com/

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
10. In 2020
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 07:45 PM
Jul 2019

unless something drastically changes, the only fair elections will be in the blue states. Everywhere else, from purple to red will be suspect.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
5. I suspect it is the rule and not the exception. I remember reading about the overt obstruction in
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:44 PM
Jul 2019

2004 election recount at the Green Party Ohio website.

It would be interesting to see a compilation of such info.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
7. The plaintiff in the GA lawsuit spoke directly to Brad. No point in questioning the messenger here.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:52 PM
Jul 2019

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
17. Can you please explain your criticism of BradBlog?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:25 PM
Jul 2019

BradBlog has provided journalism (however imperfect) on voting issues when more MSM has lacked sufficient coverage on voting system issues.

Please name other sources that you deem better on voting issues.

I ask this in a positive sense.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
19. brad double,triple checks any thing he prints
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jul 2019

but gj trying to distract from the fact that Georgia acted illegally before voting machines could actually be examined

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
9. Their governor is illegitimate.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 07:41 PM
Jul 2019

I think an asterisk is in order. The fix was in in Georgia. Stacey Abrams is the rightful governor of the peach state.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
11. SO Stacy Abrahms really should be GOV
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 07:48 PM
Jul 2019

Just like we knew


Probably Andrew Gulliam in Florida


and maybe even Beto over cruz

diva77

(7,640 posts)
18. I wish! It's really the perfect crime -- elected officials fear retribution if they try to address
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jul 2019

the issue; the evidence is elusive; the perpetrators have big money & influence. And worst of all, there is a weakness in our legal system -- elections officials have access to unlimited legal power, while citizens have to foot the bill for challenges and recounts.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
21. I have no doubt they were flipped
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jul 2019

Wasn't it '04 here in Ohio where an election was overturned after showing problems with the diebold machines in the district flipping votes?

Kemp directly oversaw the election he was running in, won closely, lied about the databases, outsourced to some questionable garage programmers, lied to the court, and destroyed as much evidence as possible. Every single thing about this race looks like blatant election fraud.

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