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Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:22 PM Aug 2019

Trump implements new tariffs on China and market drops 500 points.

$350 Billion remaining in Chines imports without tariffs now have a 10% one on them. Markets were up 300 today, they've now swung 500 points and are down 200.

Another weak manufacturing report had investors anticipating another rate cut after the one we got Wednesday, so the market was responding to that well. We've seen this before, George Bush used rate cuts for years to prop up the markets to make the economy look better than it was, it collapsed in 2008. Same thing is happening now. Report after report on the economy shows trouble ahead.

And once again, Tariffs are not the solution!!! Tariffs lead to higher costs for American manufacturers, it makes American companies less competitive. It hurts American consumers and kills jobs. We had fairer trade with China under Obama, and we used the global systems in place to get good resolutions on disputes. This is a disaster and no one is even speaking up against tariffs anymore.

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Trump implements new tariffs on China and market drops 500 points. (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 OP
S&P 500 two days Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2019 #1
Do you have a link? JustAnotherGen Aug 2019 #2
Here's the link Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #3
Market was up more than 200 points this morning. no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #4
One thing happens over and over Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #6
Agreed. Economy is badly damaged by these three indicators: no_hypocrisy Aug 2019 #10
i think you should add housing starts being down to list questionseverything Aug 2019 #28
It closed -300+ yesterday malaise Aug 2019 #22
Nice work, President Dipshit. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #5
I am convinced he is doing insider trading Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #7
+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Aug 2019 #26
i think he just does the worst possible thing questionseverything Aug 2019 #29
Until the dumbass republicans Andy823 Aug 2019 #8
They are suddenly anti Free Trade Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #12
the lack of chinese markets for corn/soy beans/wheat has devastated farmers questionseverything Aug 2019 #27
Trump crashing the market Turbineguy Aug 2019 #9
Wondering when the BIG MONEY guys on Wall Street NoMoreRepugs Aug 2019 #11
I'm sure big money is forewarned spinbaby Aug 2019 #17
If your 401k is losing you are badly mismanaging it. former9thward Aug 2019 #23
I don't have a 401k spinbaby Aug 2019 #25
DOW is growing at a paltry 4% annually right now Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #13
not to worry, when that 300 billion dollar budget kicks in, you know, the one we helped pass, yaesu Aug 2019 #14
Did I hear right Timmygoat Aug 2019 #15
Let me predict. former9thward Aug 2019 #24
Here's how to avoid any impact from the tariffs: SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #16
Ha Ha, you American capitalist kings who put Trump and his Slovenian sex worker in the White House Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #18
How much did Trump cost you today? bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #19
Tariffs are a giant middle class tax increase. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #20
Some dumbass troll tried to tell me the drop was due to the fed cutting interest rates gratuitous Aug 2019 #21

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
6. One thing happens over and over
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:36 PM
Aug 2019

As we enter a recession, the experts and especially the politicians spend about 12 months pretending it's not happening.

I don't care what the experts say about % for a recession, we'v had a losing streak of bad economic news. Growth is slowing, trade deficit getting worse, manufacturing being hit hard, US fell to 3rd place for competitive economy. The lagging indicators of UE rate and wage growth will start to worsen next.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
10. Agreed. Economy is badly damaged by these three indicators:
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:39 PM
Aug 2019

1. losses in manufacturing
2. losses in agriculture
3. soft consumer spending

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
7. I am convinced he is doing insider trading
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:37 PM
Aug 2019

Trump knows darned well his Tweet will effect the market, zero doubt he lets some investors/donors know before he is going to Tweet something like this so they can short the market today.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
26. +1,000 !!
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:51 PM
Aug 2019

I've kind of noticed that too!

The orange awhole has got to go!

IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!!!

The sooner the better too!



Andy823

(11,495 posts)
8. Until the dumbass republicans
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:37 PM
Aug 2019

grow a spine, and stand up to this lunatic, nothing will change for the better. I honestly think most of the republicans have been compromised, and trump or putin have some pretty nasty stuff on them, or they are just scared to death of losing their job, and could care less about this country.

The old staying is "country before party", but nowadays it should be "country before trump"!

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
12. They are suddenly anti Free Trade
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:49 PM
Aug 2019

This is insane. The Republicans suddenly because anti free trade after they spent the previous 75 years pushing free trade.

Tariffs are always a disaster and their effects are lasting even once they are removed.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
27. the lack of chinese markets for corn/soy beans/wheat has devastated farmers
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:04 PM
Aug 2019

even if democrats take back the presidency, house ,senate it will take decades to rebuild those markets if it ever happens

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
9. Trump crashing the market
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:38 PM
Aug 2019

made me completely forget about the Russia scandal, and all the others! I feel so wonderful!

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
11. Wondering when the BIG MONEY guys on Wall Street
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:49 PM
Aug 2019

grow tired of the crazed machinations of the Orange Menace and flip the switch on their support.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
23. If your 401k is losing you are badly mismanaging it.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:01 PM
Aug 2019

Markets are near their record highs. If your account is not doing well then you really need to look at what it is invested in. The gloomers have been predicting a market crash for years now.

spinbaby

(15,089 posts)
25. I don't have a 401k
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 07:33 PM
Aug 2019

But I do have an IRA and have recently moved my funds out of stocks to lock in gains.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
13. DOW is growing at a paltry 4% annually right now
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:53 PM
Aug 2019

All this talk about the investment boom is silly. Obama presided over an investment boom. Since Trump's budget and Tax rates went into effect, the DOW is growing 4% annually, it's average growth has been a little over 7% over the last 50 years.

We've been stuck in neutral for 20 months.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
14. not to worry, when that 300 billion dollar budget kicks in, you know, the one we helped pass,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 04:16 PM
Aug 2019

the market will be doing jumping jacks and tRump will be braggingly excited about those prospects.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
16. Here's how to avoid any impact from the tariffs:
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 04:25 PM
Aug 2019

don't go anywhere for news except FOX. I jumped on their website to see how they were spinning the fact that Trump's bullshit shaved 500 points off of the DOW, and there is no story there. All I could find on the front page was a link to a video news clip of Trump with the caption that he would keep talking about China.
Things must be so much nicer in their bubble than out here in the real world.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
18. Ha Ha, you American capitalist kings who put Trump and his Slovenian sex worker in the White House
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 04:42 PM
Aug 2019

You created a monster you can't control and you're losing money because of it. Stupid is as stupid does.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Some dumbass troll tried to tell me the drop was due to the fed cutting interest rates
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 05:31 PM
Aug 2019

These people will say literally anything to prop up Trump.

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