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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEat This GOP: Last day at the Janesville plant photo.
http://gazettextra.com/photos/galleries/last-day-gm/3119/
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Romney thinks they all should have gone bankrupt.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)And the others too.
Glaisne
(515 posts)Though I hope not.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)So inhumane
d_b
(7,463 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Fucking LIARS.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)And I don't mean for Ryan, but rather those folks.
I hope they beat Ryan upside his lying head with that fact.
jillan
(39,451 posts)polmaven
(9,463 posts)they all believe FACTS stands for Fuck All Crappy Truths Silly! (Crappy, of course, to them, because it doesn't fit their agendas.)
jillan
(39,451 posts)They don't give a damn about facts, do they?
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)and they haven't for about 6 months now ...
lastlib
(23,226 posts)(lyin fuckin' LYING sacks of PUKE-SHIT!!)
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)no one would vote for them, they would get 1% of the vote...
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Good Christian fellow like him lying to millions upon millions of people. If only there really was a hell!
lastlib
(23,226 posts)...forgot (IGNORES?!?) that part about bearing false witness.....!
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Oh man....I don't think Ryan knew what he was getting himself into. I'm sure he's gonna wish he never brought up the GM plant in Janesville.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)I'm sure The Beer Party will have it on their FB page soon. They have some totally good shit.
Blue Owl
(50,363 posts)And Paul Ryan -- go fuck yourself...
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)And won't they just blame the closing of this plant on Obama? They blame everything on Obama - even stuff that happened before he got into office.
If you are serious, where have you been? That exactly what Ryan did last night in his speech and what they're continuing to do even after they've been called out on the LIE.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I'm being utterly overwhelmed with the amount of lies and crap that Romney & Ryan are spouting. It's like fucking overload. How does anyone keep track of all of it?
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)it their lips are moving, they're telling lies.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The 5 Biggest Lies in Paul Ryans RNC Acceptance Speech
Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101640335
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Actually that is in all seriousness what a lot of political reporters do with debates and speeches. I am not looking forwards to that now that one incumbent has finally accepted to take on the other for a debate.
Last time around I overlooked a very minor fib, I knew where he was coming from... as a former medic. But I got whiplash when he said it. No, you cannot give chest compressions in water, but most folks really don't care.
Botany
(70,504 posts)rurallib
(62,414 posts)such hope, such promise.
such a wonderful family.
In the end, I still believe he will go down as one of the great presidents.
Botany
(70,504 posts)..... we would be much better off and Paul Ryan has made being a pain in the
ass and trying to sandbag the US economy in order to hurt the President job #1
from the time Obama took office.
And yes Obama might go down as one of the greatest Presidents ever.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Here's the letter with Ryan's June 2008 signature acknowledging the closing (pdf via house.gov)
Signed, June 3, 2008
http://paulryan.house.gov/uploadedfiles/ltr_gm_060308.pdf
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)Just because he can sign his name doesn't mean he can read.
Didn't you learn anything from the Dubya administration? He 'read' a presidential daily brief that said terrorists might attack the world trade center on september 11th. (it's possible the date wasn't actually in the brief)
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)(On edit, adding dates)
Technically, the Ryan line is that the President failed to "keep it open".
Technically, the plant had a hundred workers paid after the main line closed Dec 23, 2008, to keep a small line open to fill out a truck order until April 2009.
However, the basic fact that the weasel would have you not know is that the plant closing was accelerated by the Republican President who applauded GM for being "adaptable" in closing that and other plants. The plant was slated to close in 2010 (see letter above) but was accelerated and closed in 2008 except for an essentially inconsequential amount of work for a few months.
[font size = "+1"]Fact: [/font]It was all decided and finalized by time Obama took office.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021233674
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)May he rot in hell with his pants perpetually on fire.
MADem
(135,425 posts)The last car came off that line under Bush.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)is in print in the New York Times and was written by himself. This should be hammered home repeatedly.
barbtries
(28,793 posts)that is sad. and the republicans who keep pushing the lie are disgusting human beings. nothing new of course.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)with a claim that the banner was photoshopped.
demosincebirth
(12,537 posts)Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)Sure to be great fun for the whole family.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,428 posts)SO STOP SAYING THAT!
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)Indydem
(2,642 posts)Calling this a lie is not true, and those who do are tossing their credibility out the window.
http://www.gazettextra.com/news/2009/apr/21/thursday-last-day-production-isuzu-line-comes-end/
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)to fill one contract with Izuzu to make trucks and with a very small crew of workers. The main part of the plant that made suvs was closed by Dec. 2008. Without making suvs, the plant was over. The decision to close it was made by 2008.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)To claim Obama could have kept it open is either:
1) A lie
2) A belief that government should take over business.
So....which is it? A lie, or are Republicans actually Communists?
fob
(5,578 posts)the guy in red on the right that's too upset to look at the camera to the FUCKING CONVENTION! Get a big, HUGE star a speaking slot to make excitement, garner coverage and reports and whatever then have them come out and say, "I want to use my time to rebut paul ryan's LIE about President Obama 'closing' the Janesville auto plant." Then he can introduce those six guys, have them unfurl the banner, and say, "I rest my case."
kpete
(71,991 posts)on MSNBC
thanks Rev AL!!!
peace, kpete
Botany
(70,504 posts)I have a feeling that Ryan's lies will comeback and bite him in the ass.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Was a feel-good story all the way around this morning. Kinderman, 65, of 3908 Windwood Drive, is a retired General Motors worker who won the big prize after buying just one ticket. The United Way raised much more than its goal of $180,000 by selling more than 11,000 tickets for the last Tahoe off the line.
http://www.wclo.com/news/2009/feb/25/retired-gm-worker-wins-last-tahoe-line/
klook
(12,155 posts)Yep, Obama's fault for not retroactively keeping the plant open.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)I have no link. They give me hives.
spanone
(135,831 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Governor Walkers, Ryans and Romney's argument. Fucking Liars! I hope the DNC really takes them to task for this!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)They don't give a rat's behind that Mitty destroyed companies and jobs for personal greed
ChristianDemocratMom
(14 posts)I've been reading for awhile, but just got signed up. Facts are a bitch, aren't they? Here's the original GM press release dated June 3, 2008:
[link:http://archives.media.gm.com/archive/documents/domain_3/docId_46161_pr.html|