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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you ever think about how you might deprogram your Trumper family members?
Is such a thing even possible?
LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... would work instantly
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)I had one "friend" who I discovered drank the Kool-aid from her dear leader. She is no longer someone I communicate with, not even a Christmas card anymore. Fuck her and her hate filled family in Northern CA. They are a RW culture up there....
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)I hate going to family gatherings as I get to hear about all their new pew pew toys. Some used to carry to the gatherings, but were told to leave them at home. I suspect they just leave them in their vehicles.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)But will have no effect on others. Financial Reality works with some and not with others. Morality works with some and not with others....
Gotta tailor the intervention for the individu
randr
(12,412 posts)Unless they do something to atone. Something big and meaningful from their hearts.
Midnight Writer
(21,764 posts)The key is not to be confrontational. When they spout some shit, I ask them about it, say "I didn't know that". Naturally, they elaborate and as they speak I listen for spots to poke holes in their nonsense. Then I ask questions and let them kinda paint themselves into an illogical corner. If you guide them right, you can see when the doubt starts furrowing their brows. Don't push, don't strike. No knockout punches here. Act like you are really interested in what they have to say and then use questions to wake them up.
The thing is, these people live in a bubble. The people they work with, the TV they watch, the folk at church, their internet friends, the people on the radio, their neighbors, their family, are all telling them Trump is great. All day, every day, in and out like oxygen. And so they go along. They don't delve that deep into it. They want to BELONG, to the same group their loved ones belong. Just like a kid wants to fit in at school.
Confrontation is a mistake, Confrontation will only be perceived as an attack and reacted to defensively. No gain there, and in fact you can expect further entrenchment.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)nt
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)dustyscamp
(2,224 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)siblings might change and that is when they lose their Medical Insurance and when the Market tanks. All three are dealing with some expensive Health Care Issues and we know how that Per existing conditions thingee works. One has VA bennies going for him but the other two are SSDI dependent so they all love those Socialized Programs that they insist are their rights to have them cause Trump said they could have them. But,if there are changes a coming,I can hear the squealing starting.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)and above all screw themselves over economically every time they vote Repuke.
I *have* thought about how to discourage them from voting at all, but in that vein I have concluded that less is more -- even bringing the subject up at all is likely to increase their oppositional/defiant behavior and make their voting more likely.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)for specifics. Trump improved the economy? How did he do that? It doesn't deprogram, but it does end the discussion. Im a social worker, so any comments about programs, illegals getting Cadillac insurance, Methadone is free, blah, blah, blah I hit them with the facts. Which they dont believe since Im not saying it on Fox News, but Ive done my part.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)i have a trumpkin in my life that i care a great deal about.
i dont think he is typical. he was a liberal all his life till he fell down the internet rathole. not any more angry at life than i am.
he has a good heart in there. he does a lot for other people. he collects coats and goes out on sub-zero nights to pass them out to the homeless, along w care package w socks and gift cards.
he is the backbone of his extended family.
as much as anything, i am finding it an interesting look at human nature and human perception. he doesnt really know what changed his mind.
he thinks he is well informed, and he does read a lot. but he isnt really. he reads wapo like wc fields read the bible- looking for loopholes.
we try not to talk politics, but when we talk issues, we are not that far apart. at least there is always some common ground.
i have made him swear, i mean swear, that he is going to watch the impeachment hearing w me. i think he still thinks that is a joke, but it sure hell isnt.
i dunno, i hope this spell wears off.
this one is worth saving. i'll let you know.
jambo101
(797 posts)Its like hes come down with a hate desease , theres no swaying him from his love of trump. as for this liberal Canadian? im just the family communist from the big nanny state to the north, needless to say we no longer speak to each other much.
DFW
(54,378 posts)He lives in Memphis (or did), but havent seen or heard of him in 25 years. I last saw him at our grandfathers 100th birthday party in NYC in 1994. My mom passed on updates about him from her sister, but I lost her in 2002, and that was the last I heard from that cousin. He was a big Bushie in 2002, and on wife number three, and that was the last I knew. If hes still around, I assume hes a big Trumpanzee. As you can tell, my desire to know is less than burning. His interest in our part of the family is apparently equally minimal.