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Do you ever think about how you might deprogram your Trumper family members? (Original Post) Girard442 Aug 2019 OP
I'm too old for that. I just disown them and never speak to them again. LuckyCharms Aug 2019 #1
Not possible.they are lost forever NRaleighLiberal Aug 2019 #2
Trump with pictures of him abusing children, masses of dead people or him hugging a brown person uponit7771 Aug 2019 #3
I don't have any by choice. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #4
No. They are armed and get upset easily. zackymilly Aug 2019 #5
Each person is different - shame works with some alittlelark Aug 2019 #6
I will shame them for the rest of their lives randr Aug 2019 #7
I have had luck planting seeds in the minds of some of my co-workers. Midnight Writer Aug 2019 #8
This Comatose Sphagetti Aug 2019 #9
Excellent tip Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #10
Good strategy dustyscamp Aug 2019 #15
Well,I know how my Wing Nuttery Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #11
F--k them. It's not my job to deprogram them. They can wallow in their fear and hate and ignorance RockRaven Aug 2019 #12
I Just Ask RobinA Aug 2019 #13
i hope so. mopinko Aug 2019 #14
Bro is a trumper jambo101 Aug 2019 #16
I think I have exactly one, but don't know for sure DFW Aug 2019 #17
I would not waste my time HAB911 Aug 2019 #18

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
3. Trump with pictures of him abusing children, masses of dead people or him hugging a brown person
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:34 PM
Aug 2019

... would work instantly

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
4. I don't have any by choice.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019

I had one "friend" who I discovered drank the Kool-aid from her dear leader. She is no longer someone I communicate with, not even a Christmas card anymore. Fuck her and her hate filled family in Northern CA. They are a RW culture up there....

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
5. No. They are armed and get upset easily.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:38 PM
Aug 2019

I hate going to family gatherings as I get to hear about all their new pew pew toys. Some used to carry to the gatherings, but were told to leave them at home. I suspect they just leave them in their vehicles.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
6. Each person is different - shame works with some
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:39 PM
Aug 2019

But will have no effect on others. Financial Reality works with some and not with others. Morality works with some and not with others....

Gotta tailor the ‘intervention’ for the individu

randr

(12,412 posts)
7. I will shame them for the rest of their lives
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:39 PM
Aug 2019

Unless they do something to atone. Something big and meaningful from their hearts.

Midnight Writer

(21,764 posts)
8. I have had luck planting seeds in the minds of some of my co-workers.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:46 PM
Aug 2019

The key is not to be confrontational. When they spout some shit, I ask them about it, say "I didn't know that". Naturally, they elaborate and as they speak I listen for spots to poke holes in their nonsense. Then I ask questions and let them kinda paint themselves into an illogical corner. If you guide them right, you can see when the doubt starts furrowing their brows. Don't push, don't strike. No knockout punches here. Act like you are really interested in what they have to say and then use questions to wake them up.

The thing is, these people live in a bubble. The people they work with, the TV they watch, the folk at church, their internet friends, the people on the radio, their neighbors, their family, are all telling them Trump is great. All day, every day, in and out like oxygen. And so they go along. They don't delve that deep into it. They want to BELONG, to the same group their loved ones belong. Just like a kid wants to fit in at school.


Confrontation is a mistake, Confrontation will only be perceived as an attack and reacted to defensively. No gain there, and in fact you can expect further entrenchment.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Well,I know how my Wing Nuttery
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:59 PM
Aug 2019

siblings might change and that is when they lose their Medical Insurance and when the Market tanks. All three are dealing with some expensive Health Care Issues and we know how that Per existing conditions thingee works. One has VA bennies going for him but the other two are SSDI dependent so they all love those Socialized Programs that they insist are their rights to have them cause Trump said they could have them. But,if there are changes a coming,I can hear the squealing starting.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
12. F--k them. It's not my job to deprogram them. They can wallow in their fear and hate and ignorance
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 10:02 PM
Aug 2019

and above all screw themselves over economically every time they vote Repuke.

I *have* thought about how to discourage them from voting at all, but in that vein I have concluded that less is more -- even bringing the subject up at all is likely to increase their oppositional/defiant behavior and make their voting more likely.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
13. I Just Ask
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 10:25 PM
Aug 2019

for specifics. Trump improved the economy? How did he do that? It doesn't deprogram, but it does end the discussion. I’m a social worker, so any comments about programs, illegals getting Cadillac insurance, Methadone is free, blah, blah, blah I hit them with the facts. Which they don’t believe since I’m not saying it on Fox News, but I’ve done my part.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
14. i hope so.
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:04 AM
Aug 2019

i have a trumpkin in my life that i care a great deal about.
i dont think he is typical. he was a liberal all his life till he fell down the internet rathole. not any more angry at life than i am.
he has a good heart in there. he does a lot for other people. he collects coats and goes out on sub-zero nights to pass them out to the homeless, along w care package w socks and gift cards.
he is the backbone of his extended family.

as much as anything, i am finding it an interesting look at human nature and human perception. he doesnt really know what changed his mind.
he thinks he is well informed, and he does read a lot. but he isnt really. he reads wapo like wc fields read the bible- looking for loopholes.

we try not to talk politics, but when we talk issues, we are not that far apart. at least there is always some common ground.
i have made him swear, i mean swear, that he is going to watch the impeachment hearing w me. i think he still thinks that is a joke, but it sure hell isnt.

i dunno, i hope this spell wears off.
this one is worth saving. i'll let you know.

jambo101

(797 posts)
16. Bro is a trumper
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:47 AM
Aug 2019

Its like hes come down with a hate desease , theres no swaying him from his love of trump. as for this liberal Canadian? im just the family communist from the big nanny state to the north, needless to say we no longer speak to each other much.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
17. I think I have exactly one, but don't know for sure
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 06:07 AM
Aug 2019

He lives in Memphis (or did), but haven’t seen or heard of him in 25 years. I last saw him at our grandfather‘s 100th birthday party in NYC in 1994. My mom passed on updates about him from her sister, but I lost her in 2002, and that was the last I heard from that cousin. He was a big Bushie in 2002, and on wife number three, and that was the last I knew. If he‘s still around, I assume he‘s a big Trumpanzee. As you can tell, my desire to know is less than burning. His interest in our part of the family is apparently equally minimal.

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