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Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:51 PM Aug 2019

Let's talk about the Dayton shooter's Twitter account

I've seen some reporting, from mostly conservative news outlets, that the Dayton shooter's Twitter account was a far leftist screed. However, the account was deleted by Twitter.

I am very suspicious about this account. It seems awfully politically convenient that the shooter would be in praise of Warren, Sanders, and ANTIFA. I wonder if Russian trolls created this account and his tweets as cover for Trump. Esp. since none of his family and friends have confirmed that the Dayton shooter had this account.

We need to get to the truth on this because if my suspicions are correct, this whole mess just got even more troubling. Troubling on a global scale.

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Zoonart

(11,861 posts)
1. What we do know is that he was an extreme misogynist.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:54 PM
Aug 2019

I think there are some left leaning men who may also be misogynist, but I don't know any who carried around rape lists.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
4. Why would a misogynist be a Warren supporter?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Aug 2019

He hates women, but wants one to be president? It's possible, but unlikely.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. Whatever his political inclinations might have been,
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Aug 2019

there's no evidence that they influenced his decision to go to a bar to kill people. All of the evidence we have so far is that throughout high school he had been a weird, disturbed person who was obsessed with guns and death and was involved in an extremely violent and misogynistic music genre. Politics did not seem to be one of his issues. He seems to have been more like the Sandy Hook and Parkland shooters than one motivated by ideology.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
5. Understood. That's why this Twitter account seems to be out of character for him.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:57 PM
Aug 2019

IOW, this account may have been created to give Trump political cover.

 

MacDombles

(28 posts)
13. Nothing. Period.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:33 PM
Aug 2019

Yet we rush to blame the them every time.
I saw the account before it was removed and have screenshots. It is very possible that a left leaning person also happened to be crazy. Judging by his past girlfriend, his Twitter, police and school records, and new possible pic of him with his gun, counter protesting at a kkk rally, that he is likely just crazy.
Just as I believe not every Right leaning person is a kkk nazi, phobe, ist, whatever,
It's also possible that not every Left leaning person is a Saint.

It is also possible not everything we hate is a Russian troll. The odds of this guy shooting up a place, and anyone, let alone from another country, be able to build a profile in hours that fits all personal accounts of him, includes pics of him, and has posts that match his deplorable past behaviors is a far reach. Even for me and I absolutely love a good conspiracy theory!
We could try to stop assuming this is a simple 2 sided fight and realize every person can make their own decisions and not be the all or nothing version of whatever ideological model we want to cast them in. If it turns out he drank milk the day of shooting, I'm not boycotting milk.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
9. His politics have, by every angle, NOT been a factor to his motive
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:04 PM
Aug 2019

...as least as to the motive we know so far.

underpants

(182,791 posts)
10. I'm seeing that he had one ONE positive post about Warren
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:17 PM
Aug 2019

That he liked her more than Harris. That’s it. The RW media ran with it.


Good discussion here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2351471

underpants

(182,791 posts)
12. Well that could be the case
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:22 PM
Aug 2019

With most of these sickos there’s something out there that can be used as the RW MEDIA is using this. These manifestos also tend, I think, to throw something in that throws people off the obvious scent. These people are consistently whackos so I don’t want to give them too much credit.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
14. In thoughts/ deeds no connex ever to our Party; I suspect he deliberately claimed to be "left"
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:34 PM
Aug 2019

calculating that he was going to mass murder & he could direct the blame twds "those leftists" Could be Russian trolls that planted this obvious slur against us or this monster himself. Everybody knows by now that the Twitter account is the first place looked at to try to "explain" these atrocities. Whether Russian Trolls or he did it himself, the goal of diverting blame from Trump & the GOP, ,
which now openly supports sexual and racial violence to a our Party, that loudly condemns all of it, is clear.
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JI7

(89,248 posts)
16. he was using Warren to attack Harris and Biden who he said he wished would die
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:43 PM
Aug 2019

it's what trolls who want to discourage support for Democrats always do.

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