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lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:39 PM Aug 2019

Dear Black and Brown People Who Will be Taking Over the Country Soon,

Please, I’m begging you, please make it quick. It can’t happen soon enough.
Please.

Sincerely,
One disgusted and embarrassed white person.

PS America 2019 is the textbook illustration of the absurdity and fallacy of “white supremacy.”

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Dear Black and Brown People Who Will be Taking Over the Country Soon, (Original Post) lostnfound Aug 2019 OP
I second that emotion.... AJT Aug 2019 #1
Me too bdamomma Aug 2019 #2
There is some humor in this request because Dan Aug 2019 #3
And once you're in power, just so you know, i have a red hat but dem4decades Aug 2019 #4
I also have a red hat, with a USMC emblem on it... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #18
What Makes You Think RobinA Aug 2019 #5
Very true. DavidDvorkin Aug 2019 #7
As my wise mother used to say, Disaffected Aug 2019 #8
See Animal Farm. Checks and balances are important. SharonAnn Aug 2019 #15
When you hit bottom, nohere to go but up. Nt lostnfound Aug 2019 #9
Fair question, some people don't think it can get worse so try what's new. But it will get worse ... uponit7771 Aug 2019 #14
I think a lot of us are done with the devil we know... LanternWaste Aug 2019 #20
After visiting 36 countries, it shocks me how similar people are at140 Aug 2019 #27
Bingo misanthrope Aug 2019 #31
We're not about to take over. It's projected that around 2035-40 the US will be a majority/minority. brush Aug 2019 #6
Mexico absorbed the Spanish Beringia Aug 2019 #10
It's a reasonable question to ask. Igel Aug 2019 #12
Your answer is intriguing, but I can't make head or tails of it Beringia Aug 2019 #13
A friend from Mexico has told me things that verify your first paragraph. Progressive Jones Aug 2019 #22
Thanks for sharing Beringia Aug 2019 #34
Those 3 countries are the least diverse racially! at140 Aug 2019 #28
Wow, only 100! Beringia Aug 2019 #33
Russia is one of the most diverse..read up. the other 2 are not. NM Oregon1947 Aug 2019 #35
Agree because Russia extends through at140 Aug 2019 #41
:) Can't help thinking it'd have to be an improvement, for a while. Hortensis Aug 2019 #11
If Hispanics don't start voting at higher rates Mosby Aug 2019 #17
Yeah, please do. This old fat bald White guy sure misses... NNadir Aug 2019 #16
nice Demonaut Aug 2019 #24
Please treat us better than we treated you HAB911 Aug 2019 #19
Posted this the other night. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #29
+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2019 #36
Never underestimate gerrymandering and the electoral college 2020Junker Aug 2019 #21
K & R Progressive Jones Aug 2019 #25
A bit tongue in cheek. But trump and the GOP are SOOOO AWFUL lostnfound Aug 2019 #32
You're not wrong 2020Junker Aug 2019 #40
wtf Demonaut Aug 2019 #23
"absurdity...of white supremacy" handmade34 Aug 2019 #26
Absolutely. Tertullian Aug 2019 #30
the math doesn't quite work that way... brooklynite Aug 2019 #37
+1000! mcar Aug 2019 #38
It may never happen. Yavin4 Aug 2019 #39

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
2. Me too
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:47 PM
Aug 2019

take these white nationalists, white supremacists', . neo Nazis, insecure bastards to hell.

We are a society in moral decay.

Dan

(3,559 posts)
3. There is some humor in this request because
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:52 PM
Aug 2019

America truly is a mixed country.

Checking out your DNA has lots of surprises for some of us.

When POC take over, hopefully, we’ll say - this Country is our Country, all of us. So, no reason to transfer control - just keep on being Americans. One family with many different branches in our tree.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
4. And once you're in power, just so you know, i have a red hat but
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

It says Wentworth, and had a leopard on it.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
14. Fair question, some people don't think it can get worse so try what's new. But it will get worse ...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:30 PM
Aug 2019

... cause Red Don isn't going be less of a traitor.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. I think a lot of us are done with the devil we know...
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 03:56 PM
Aug 2019

And, before anyone reads something that's not there, "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know" is an idiom meaning that when faced with two options, it is better to choose the more familiar one, even if it is undesirable.




(and, before someone gripes that idiom means I'm making fun of someone's uncle: Idiom, (noun) a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words (e.g., rain cats and dogs, see the light ).

at140

(6,110 posts)
27. After visiting 36 countries, it shocks me how similar people are
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:12 PM
Aug 2019

everywhere. They may speak a different language, but people strive for the same things.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
31. Bingo
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:46 PM
Aug 2019

Most people never realize just how dehumanizing the over romanticization of other cultures can be. We're all messy, complicated and mostly tragically flawed.

brush

(53,776 posts)
6. We're not about to take over. It's projected that around 2035-40 the US will be a majority/minority.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:18 PM
Aug 2019

country, meaning that whites will no longer be more than 50% of the population. We will all still have to deal with each other, hopefully in humane ways.

What's going on now is that trump and his white nationalist base know that this demographic shift is approaching and that's why all the insanity on the border as they try to keep brown people from applying for asylum. They see them as eventual Dem voters, which is where that racist "replacement" theory comes from—remember the chant of the nazis at Charlottesville—"Jews will not replace us."?

And trump keeps the racist stuff coming with his denigration of Haiti and African countries. Now he's even moved on to American cities with his verbal attacks on Baltimore and Rep. Cummings.

Fasten your seat belts as the racists/white supremacists aren't going to give up what they see as their entitlement to be top dogs without a fight.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
10. Mexico absorbed the Spanish
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:30 PM
Aug 2019

Although I hear there are classes there based on elitism, I think related to how Spanish you are, with Amerindians being at the bottom. They have horrible problems with corruption.

I wonder how many other countries who are not multicultural will ever evolve too, to not being nationalistic, like China, Japan, Russia.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
12. It's a reasonable question to ask.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:52 PM
Aug 2019

And there are lots of data to get to an evidence-based answer.

The problem is, the evidence-based answer isn't the one acceptable answer.

One common solution is to gut the meaning of "culture." That's a dodge, for people who think that form is so much more important than substance.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
22. A friend from Mexico has told me things that verify your first paragraph.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:46 PM
Aug 2019

He is of Spanish, French, and German descent. Born and raised in Mexico city
He is considered to be from an elite level of society.
He said that the racism among his family, and similar families, is astounding.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
34. Thanks for sharing
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:16 PM
Aug 2019

I know some of this first hand, from dating a Mexican guy when I was young, but I really don't know how that country works socially.

at140

(6,110 posts)
28. Those 3 countries are the least diverse racially!
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:14 PM
Aug 2019

In China, with 1500 million people, there are only about 100 surnames!

at140

(6,110 posts)
41. Agree because Russia extends through
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 02:48 PM
Aug 2019

What 6 time zones? There are Muslims, Christians, Caucasians, orientals...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. :) Can't help thinking it'd have to be an improvement, for a while.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:42 PM
Aug 2019

But be careful what you wish for. No superior race means a whole mess of all-too-human people.

At least half are conservatives by nature and/or upbringing, with both all the flaws of the white ones and many, many scores to settle. Regardless of what liberal AAs and Hispanics would want, there's no reason to just assume their cons would react to power by allying with white liberals when they'd have so much more in common with the right.

Mosby

(16,309 posts)
17. If Hispanics don't start voting at higher rates
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:33 PM
Aug 2019

The demographics won't matter. As it is dems outnumber reps, but our base doesn't turn out like the reps, plus they cheat.



sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
29. Posted this the other night.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:20 PM
Aug 2019
The vast majority of Americans are disgusted by Trump’s descent into vile racism. The swing voters who gave Democrats the House will not be won back by calls to blood and soil. They voted Democratic in reaction to those calls for race purity.

The decades before the Civil War involved an argument between white people. Slaves weren’t given agency to determine their own fates. The situation is different now. We are a rainbow nation. And people of color aren’t waiting to be invited to the discussion. They are taking the reins and making sure their voices are heard. And many times what they say is painful to hear, especially if, as a white person, you consider yourself “woke”. Even though I’m Latino, I know I have white privilege because of the color of my skin, and I take in everything, even when it’s painful.

But this is good. We are way past the days when the conversation was just among the members of the dominant group. The formerly voiceless are not keeping quiet. What’s happening now is proof that our country has changed, and irrevocably. The frightened attendees at Trump’s rallies can rail and fulminate all they want, but they will have to adjust to a new reality, where people who don’t look like them or worship like them demand their seat at the table. And they won’t be able to stop the emerging majority.


https://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2019/7/18/send-her-back
 

2020Junker

(99 posts)
21. Never underestimate gerrymandering and the electoral college
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:10 PM
Aug 2019

Even as demographics shift, the money in this country will fight tooth and nail to concentrate as much power as possible for as long as they possibly can. That's what the Census kerfuffle was all about. It was merely one shot among an incoming barrage that we will be grappling with for at least the next three decades.

As the country transitions from white dominance to a more pluralistic political landscape, things will get uglier.

I reckon a lot of it won't settle down until 2050 or 60 or so. And even then, whoever is in power will still be human, and they will be susceptible to all the venality white politicians have ever been.

I always feel like it's a little patronizingly racist to believe people of color are somehow fonts of wisdom and won't have the same human failings. It plays a bit into the old racist Noble Savage trope. Not a particular fan of the train of thought. People are people. We must always be a check against those who seek and hold power, no matter their color.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
32. A bit tongue in cheek. But trump and the GOP are SOOOO AWFUL
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:14 PM
Aug 2019

and I am SO sick of them.

But if you look at the voting records of black women, they do seem a little wiser.

Bad apples are everywhere in every group (Clarence Thomas) But it’s my opinion that Barack Obama was possibly the finest president we ever had, certainly one of the top two or three, and that means POC are batting 100%... 😉 sample size of one.

 

2020Junker

(99 posts)
40. You're not wrong
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:45 AM
Aug 2019

Black women are the most solid of our voting blocs in our base.

And let's be honest. In this country, as it currently operates, black women have seen some shit.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
37. the math doesn't quite work that way...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:44 AM
Aug 2019

While ethnic minorities IN AGGREGATE will be a larger group that Caucasians, Caucasians will still be the largest single block. Will Blacks and Hispanics be able to work together to acquire political clout?

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
39. It may never happen.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:50 AM
Aug 2019

Projections do not always come to fruition. We could easily see a major slowdown in the birth rates in another couple of years.

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