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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:33 AM Aug 2019

Where do I go from here?

I'm being called a racist I think.
I feel I'm being treated very unfairly.

Am I being insensitive?
I'd like to get better at this.
Any advice?

Am I being selfish?

There is more but here are some snippets.













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Where do I go from here? (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2019 OP
I started to read this, and I saw the N word used in the first tweet Happyhippychick Aug 2019 #1
I really want a POC perspective on this SHRED Aug 2019 #2
This article may help, written by a WOC... PunkinPi Aug 2019 #3
Thank you for that article SHRED Aug 2019 #5
We never need to say "not all white people" to a POC making this point, they know that. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #26
LOL SHRED Aug 2019 #28
Depends on how many puffs off of that marijuana cigarette you have had. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #29
Anybody who writes "white people..." or "black people..." followed by any general statement lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #7
You nailed it Brawndo Aug 2019 #9
bull Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #27
I read the article and if you swap "black" and "white" in it, it's still incredibly racist. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #32
That person tweeting to you sounds like they just want to stir shit Roland99 Aug 2019 #4
I understand why this person is frustrated by the racism Takket Aug 2019 #6
That's my feelings SHRED Aug 2019 #8
Anybody who picked a handle like customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #10
Okay...they revealed themselves SHRED Aug 2019 #11
Agreed. Not worth fretting over. Maeve Aug 2019 #12
You pretty much stepped in it. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #13
I hear ya SHRED Aug 2019 #14
I've recently attended Anti-Racism training. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #20
"Not all white people" is the flip side of "all lives matter." It doesn't need to be said. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #15
It was a poor choice of words SHRED Aug 2019 #17
What blanket statement? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #21
See reply #7 SHRED Aug 2019 #25
You really care what some random person on the internet says? cwydro Aug 2019 #16
Thank you SHRED Aug 2019 #18
Good! Seriously, they could be some Russian bot...anybody at all. cwydro Aug 2019 #19
Misty Powell was right in her post about what you would do if every Black posting hated you. Blue_true Aug 2019 #22
Thank you SHRED Aug 2019 #24
Gotta be careful on Twitter, it's very easy to be misunderstood. New Breed Leader Aug 2019 #23
Meh, I'd disregard that crap. I recall a similar hate thread here OnDoutside Aug 2019 #30
Haters gonna hate. Lovers gonna love. 🤷🏼‍♀️ LakeArenal Aug 2019 #31

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
1. I started to read this, and I saw the N word used in the first tweet
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:35 AM
Aug 2019

And now I'm not going to be able to read the rest of it because that word is so fucking offensive I.Just.Can't.

And I know you didn't use it, I'm not blaming you. I just can't.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
2. I really want a POC perspective on this
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:40 AM
Aug 2019

I'm white and grew up that way in a very white town.

I have fought against my upbringing and I've always prided myself on being against racism.

At the risk of sounding "selfish" ...this hurts.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
3. This article may help, written by a WOC...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:54 AM
Aug 2019
When we write about things that white people do, we use the generic phrase “white people” as a catchall (see also: wypipo). We use it to represent the type of collective whiteness that unites white people even when y’all aren’t all on the same page or following the same agenda or falling into the same category. It’s that “general you” versus “specific you” type of thing.

We know “not all white people.” We know that there are a great many of you who don’t exemplify any of the behaviors that we talk about, and we are proud of you.

OK, we aren’t necessarily proud of you or handing out awards for people being decent human beings, but we shouldn’t have to, much in the same way we shouldn’t have to specifically say “not all white people” every single time we write a story illustrating something ignorant, racist or otherwise damaging that white people have done. It is implied.

Have you ever noticed that no one ever has to say “not all black people”? When stories get written that generalize black people (and we all know there are plenty of them), you don’t see black people derailing the topic at hand by crying “not all black people” in the comments or in the Twitter mentions of the author.

More here --> https://www.theroot.com/not-all-white-people-a-definitive-disclaimer-1825835641
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
5. Thank you for that article
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:00 PM
Aug 2019

I guess I shouldn't have said "not all white people".

I resent being personally attacked for it however then being blamed for "It's not about you" when I attempt to defend my self.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. We never need to say "not all white people" to a POC making this point, they know that.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019

I know who you are as others do, we know you are "one of the good ones"

couldnt help myself

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
29. Depends on how many puffs off of that marijuana cigarette you have had.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:56 PM
Aug 2019

Oh the stories I could tell...I was THERE when the very first sensimilla was being cultivated

i was in the neighborhood at least

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Anybody who writes "white people..." or "black people..." followed by any general statement
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:03 PM
Aug 2019

about their behavior, is committing an overtly racist act. It's really not that complicated.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. bull
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:42 PM
Aug 2019

Learn or dont learn, up to you





When we write about things that white people do, we use the generic phrase “white people” as a catchall (see also: wypipo). We use it to represent the type of collective whiteness that unites white people even when y’all aren’t all on the same page or following the same agenda or falling into the same category. It’s that “general you” versus “specific you” type of thing.

We know “not all white people.” We know that there are a great many of you who don’t exemplify any of the behaviors that we talk about, and we are proud of you.

OK, we aren’t necessarily proud of you or handing out awards for people being decent human beings, but we shouldn’t have to, much in the same way we shouldn’t have to specifically say “not all white people” every single time we write a story illustrating something ignorant, racist or otherwise damaging that white people have done. It is implied.

Have you ever noticed that no one ever has to say “not all black people”? When stories get written that generalize black people (and we all know there are plenty of them), you don’t see black people derailing the topic at hand by crying “not all black people” in the comments or in the Twitter mentions of the author.

More here --> https://www.theroot.com/not-all-white-people-a-definitive-disclaimer-1825835641


THIS THREAD has a valued purpose, it is for WHITE people to read that article.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
6. I understand why this person is frustrated by the racism
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:02 PM
Aug 2019

But turning their guns on friendly ships isn’t going to get this person anywhere.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
8. That's my feelings
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019

I even replied with examples but that made it worse which got me thinking if I'm screwing up.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. Anybody who picked a handle like
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 01:14 PM
Aug 2019

"Sandi Typos ate my spurit animal!" should not be taken seriously.

Don't sweat it, maybe back away from Twitter for a week or two. I've lived without it my whole adult life, and if it disappeared tomorrow, my only feeling would be joy that the Dotard has lost a major way of communicating with his troops.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
20. I've recently attended Anti-Racism training.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:06 PM
Aug 2019

I learned that Black folks are really pissed off and for good reason), to the point where they don't trust any White Pipo about anything, ever, anywhere, until they deliver. Just move on.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
15. "Not all white people" is the flip side of "all lives matter." It doesn't need to be said.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:56 PM
Aug 2019

But it's unclear to me what you were saying in your tweet. When you say "not all white people, not by a long shot," not all white people...do what?

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
17. It was a poor choice of words
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019

A mistake I won't make again.

I was offended by there blanket statement.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. You really care what some random person on the internet says?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

That must make life harder than it needs to be.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Good! Seriously, they could be some Russian bot...anybody at all.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:04 PM
Aug 2019

Probably just a troll.

You know who and what you are; that’s all that matters.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. Misty Powell was right in her post about what you would do if every Black posting hated you.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 07:11 PM
Aug 2019

You should take that as a opportunity to tell her good point then say that you would oppose White supremacy and racism even if every Black poster hated you, because of your values.

Definitely don't write "I am not a racist". How many times have actual racists said or wrote that phrase.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
30. Meh, I'd disregard that crap. I recall a similar hate thread here
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:06 PM
Aug 2019

last year. You do as you do, and don't worry about the hate crowd.

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