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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:16 PM Aug 2019

Epstein accuser named former governor, senator in testimony: prosecutors

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/456923-epstein-accuser-named-former-governor-senator-in-testimony-prosecutors

A woman testified that Jeffrey Epstein sent her to have sex while she was underage with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) and former Sen. George Mitchell (D-Maine), allegations the two men deny.

According to court documents made public Friday, Virginia Giuffre testified in 2016 she was also sent to have sex with asset manager Glenn Dubin, modeling executive Jean Luc Brunel and the late MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, expanding on past claims that she was used as a “sex slave” for Epstein from 2000 to 2002.


This is going to get interesting.
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Epstein accuser named former governor, senator in testimony: prosecutors (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 OP
I believe that Bill Richardson and George Mitchell - along with many other prominent Pachamama Aug 2019 #1
It's a shame Richardson's name is tied to this... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #2
There are many Priests, soccer coaches, etc. over the decades that have done so many Pachamama Aug 2019 #4
he has been accused in the past. mopinko Aug 2019 #5
I don't know if that's what doomed him in 2008... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #7
Yes, I remember that, too. n/t Metatron Aug 2019 #13
Are these "distinguished" jerks so desperate and pathetic. UTUSN Aug 2019 #3
Men that do that are not desperate, they are perverts. Blue_true Aug 2019 #9
So RICHARDSON and George MITCHELL were doing underaged girls? UTUSN Aug 2019 #11
That was an allegation. Both denied having done so. Blue_true Aug 2019 #12
Well, I understand what the perversion/revulsion is, am reacting to the names with shock. UTUSN Aug 2019 #14
Honestly, I have viewed Richardson with some suspicion for a long time. Blue_true Aug 2019 #15
Well, my ??? about RICHARDSON was his ditching Hillary back in the day UTUSN Aug 2019 #17
She also said she had sex with Prince Andrew and with Alan Dershowitz on multiple occasions. zackymilly Aug 2019 #6
It would be a mistake for Democrats to be so partisan that we reflexively defend these people RockRaven Aug 2019 #8
nobody is defending them. nobody defended dershowitz JI7 Aug 2019 #10
I'm sure there will be Republicans linked too Polybius Aug 2019 #16
I've heard rumors about Richardson for decades Raine Aug 2019 #18

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. I believe that Bill Richardson and George Mitchell - along with many other prominent
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:19 PM
Aug 2019

businessmen and politicians (both sides) are sweating profusely right now about what will be coming out.

Epstein had many women that were his "sex slaves"....it wasn't just Virginia Giuffre....

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. It's a shame Richardson's name is tied to this...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:20 PM
Aug 2019

I always liked him. But now? Ew. Hope, if it's true, he gets locked up too.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
4. There are many Priests, soccer coaches, etc. over the decades that have done so many
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

...great things and were well liked...but they were also simultaneously engaging in raping minors.

Its very hard sometime to wrap your brain around how someone can be "so good" and then "so bad"....the duality.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
7. I don't know if that's what doomed him in 2008...
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:45 PM
Aug 2019

Even without any hint of scandal, he wasn't going to beat Hillary or Obama. Thing is, he was vetted to be Obama's VP, as well as rumored to be SoS before it was offered to Hillary, so, the rumors must not have been that significant.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Men that do that are not desperate, they are perverts.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:19 PM
Aug 2019

They could have legal aged women if they wanted that. Underaged girls turn them on more.

UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
11. So RICHARDSON and George MITCHELL were doing underaged girls?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:29 PM
Aug 2019

These TO ME were *names* that meant some kind of "reputation" to me, not in the league of FDR to get me to jump from my chair at attention, but somebody to be respected.

Am not going to be surprised about the rest of the ones who haven't been released yet.






Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. That was an allegation. Both denied having done so.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:38 PM
Aug 2019

I was speaking of the general problem of people having sex with underaged partners, regardless of the circumstances. It is perversion.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Honestly, I have viewed Richardson with some suspicion for a long time.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

He just came off as too much of a smoozer. But if Mitchell is somehow involved, that would be massively disappointing, I have always held him in high regard.

UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
17. Well, my ??? about RICHARDSON was his ditching Hillary back in the day
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 PM
Aug 2019

when I didn't know who OBAMA was. When that primary was over, I became a bigger OBAMA booster than what it appeared his original supporters were. But the subject is RICHARDSON, never a star for me, just what I thought was a reliable Dem. So I was just perplexed about him. Then this/whatever/goodbye (to him, not you).













zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
6. She also said she had sex with Prince Andrew and with Alan Dershowitz on multiple occasions.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:40 PM
Aug 2019

Richardson, Mitchell and Dershowitz have all denied her allegations.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
8. It would be a mistake for Democrats to be so partisan that we reflexively defend these people
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:51 PM
Aug 2019

instead of saying "If true, the accused should be indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced."

Deplorables are going to come at us with every Democratic name that gets mentioned in connection with Epstein as if that somehow lets the Repukes off the hook. Don't put up with that. Point out that the difference between them and us is we think ALL the child rapists should've been in jail, and don't give a shit which party they are in.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
16. I'm sure there will be Republicans linked too
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:37 PM
Aug 2019

The only reason there might be more Democrats named is because he was a Democratic donor. Still, Epstein seemed to have not been partisan. He hung out with Republicans (Trump) too.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
18. I've heard rumors about Richardson for decades
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:31 AM
Aug 2019

I don't care what party they belong to I want each and everyone of them exposed!

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