I told DUers Epstein was not coming out of prison alive

[malaise]

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Suicide or suicided - will we ever know

From July 19
I just have a feeling that Jeffrey will die in jail
before he can really talk

Cohen, Manafort and Epstein - he sure was surrounded by the best people.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212293965

[superpatriotman]

1. Apparently

Suicide Watch means they Watch you commit suicide

[malaise]

2. or help you

Dead men tell no tales

[polichick]

3. And now all those documents will be buried with him...

Our “justice” dept. will handle the details.

[malaise]

5. Suicide on suicide watch

If he committed suicide I'm still a virgin - just saying. I bawl bullshit!

[USALiberal]

7. Hanged himself, does not take long. nt

[Cetacea]

31. True, but he wasn't supposed to have the tools. n/t

[malaise]

39. Not buying it

nd many others share my view

[marieo1]

44. A joke

He wasn't the kind of guy to commit suicide, he was just like DJT super narciscist. Someone knew he knew things they didn't want revealed so BINGO!! Probably one of DJT's friends!!

[calimary]

71. Yep. Agreed.

Hanged himself? With what? Wasn’t he supposed to be in a secure cell, where they take all that potentially dangerous stuff, like belts and shoe laces, away from you?

Color me deeply suspicious.

In these cases, one always has to ask: “who benefits?”

[polichick]

13. One day after the first set of names were released.

[lapucelle]

33. And the names released were Democrats...

...conveniently providing Fox with their narrative.

[GoCubsGo]

36. Yep.

"Clintons", "ClintonBodyCount" and "Vince Foster" all are currently trending on Twitter. The bots sure jumped on it quickly. Funny how that works, eh?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

52. Was just looking at that...and about infamous 16chan. Supposedly

someone in that group DM'd last night that Epstein would be "suicided". No link and everyone asking for a screen grab.

[StarfishSaver]

6. That won't be up to DOJ

That will be up to the courts.

[polichick]

11. Uh-huh. There's a reason Gov. DeSantis suddenly began his own investigation...

and, given Barr’s father’s involvement with Epstein, there’s no way he won’t try to disappear documents.

[StarfishSaver]

14. Teams of documents are already in the courts' possession

It will be hard for a state governor to make them "disappear."

[polichick]

16. We'll see, but the corruption around Epstein is beyond extra.

[malaise]

74. Very very interesting

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm!

[Traildogbob]

47. Justiice??

This federal prison is under the department of justice, i.e., Barr. Too close to trump. Suicides in broad daylight. Sound familiarly Russian? MAGA Vlad is just getting stared on his opposition. He has the taste of blood and is untouchable.

[polichick]

69. Yep - that's why I put justice in quotes...

Corruption in the WH, DOJ, Senate and SC - do Dem leaders even understand what has happened? The people sure don’t.

[calimary]

73. AND a massive incentive to protect his ill-gotten gains.

Putin and friends have all kinds of reasons to make sure certain personnel take their own inconvenient secrets to the grave with them.

You ALWAYS have to ask “who benefits?”

“Who stands to gain from something like this?”

[snowybirdie]

4. Something

smells fishy!

[malaise]

8. All the rich pedos simultaneously breathed a sigh of relief

Bullshit!!! Rich men get gather for their $200,000 fundraising lunch and poof - Jeffrey commits suicide!!!

[IADEMO2004]

12. my same thoughts. A very convenient suicide for rich and famous.

[ancianita]

50. +1 the 'above the law' crowd are a thing

[Vinca]

9. You'd think there would at least be CCTV on him all the time unless the machine is "broken."

[octoberlib]

10. Journalist Yashar Ali said that there are

MCC cameras everywhere.

[calimary]

75. And who's in charge of those? Were they working?

Or were they somehow “mysteriously” not operator not turned on that night?

Anybody in charge of monitoring them? And who may have gotten to them?

[Leghorn21]

15. So does all the evidence seized from his BIG ASS FANCY MANSION just get flushed down the toilet?

??????

[polichick]

18. Disappearing the evidence might have been the reason to arrest him...

if one were to be cynical.

[Leghorn21]

20. Aw, maaaan

I ain’t read enough murder mysteries, chick - I bet you’re right...I HOPE not, but you probably are

Rats

[polichick]

22. As a Floridian, I've been watching this story for a long time...

Funny how Epstein wasn’t arrested until Barr was in place at doj - Barr, whose father was connected to Epstein. And just recently Gov. DeSantis (Trump sycophant) opened his own investigation here in Florida - maybe to control evidence?

I think a lot of people wanted the evidence they knew Epstein had on his properties, and they finally decided to go for it. We’ll see if the courts stand up against the pressure. We may need leakers.

But I do love mysteries, so there’s that. lol

[calimary]

70. You don't necessarily have to read a lot of murder mysteries.

All you need is a suspicious mind. And some knowledge of math. 2 + 2 will always equal 4.

[uponit7771]

37. Yep, Barr is compromised

[Dr Hobbitstein]

24. No. nt

[edbermac]

17. Trump did it.

Aided and abetted by Putin.

[Mike 03]

19. I didn't even think he would make it to trial.

Although I'm not happy about it. His victims deserve justice.

[LakeArenal]

34. That's the first thing I thought.

Victims exploited again with no justice.

[whathehell]

43. There's still a civil case.

They may sue his estate. I hope they do.

[2naSalit]

21. After seeing some

details of how he was pronounced dead after being removed to a hospital, I want to see his sorry carcass. He had an escape plan for years and plenty of powerful fucks to help him with one. I want to see that he really is dead. I do expect some kind of investigation from Congress and a continuation of the case in regard to the network of the sex slave market that is already being exposed.

This is too conveniently timely.

[Ilsa]

23. He's probably in the USVI already with bandages

around his face as the plastic surgery heals and his new identity is created.

[2naSalit]

27. Wouldn't be surprised.

El Chapo comes to mind here. With all those powerful monsters to help him out, I'm not buying it until I have proof. And some of that proof will come in the form of indictments/convictions of his network and clientele.

[Ilsa]

29. Hubby says my conspiracy theory requires

A lot of well-to-do upoer class folks lie to protect him, under penalty of incarceration if any one of them spills the beans to buy protection if they are arrested for other crimes.

[LakeArenal]

35. He does... The whole Administrations of Russia and the US

[Sunsky]

46. The same well-to-do upper class folks

who lie to protect the pos President. Those folks who will protect the president at all cost. Epstein's "death" isn't only about him, it's about those powerful men whose names and details will go with him, for example- one Donald J. Trump.
Call me skeptical but I believe this is a far as this story will go under Barr's DOJ.

[Ilsa]

78. I think you're right.

The coverup is big, and MF45 will arrange for another distraction soon, if Putin doesn't first.

[Mme. Defarge]

57. I always wondered about the extremely convenient death of

CIA Director William Casey the day before he was supposed to testify before Congress in the Iran-Contra scandal.

[2naSalit]

58. Yes, and wasn't

Barr slithering around in that cesspool too?

[calimary]

76. And don't forget Ken Lay. Conveniently died

before he could face charges in the Enron scandal.

[BootinUp]

25. Seems like people with some authority at the

prison didn’t try too hard to keep him upright.

[Takket]

26. Suicide my ass!

He knew too much. They tried to kill him two weeks ago and screwed it up and today they finished the job.

Here it is July 25 he was found injured and placed on “suicide watch”. How the he’ll did someone on suicide watch hang himself????

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jeffrey-Epstein-Found-Injured-in-NYC-Jail-Cell-After-Possible-Suicide-Attempt-or-Assault-Sources-513174311.html%3famp=y

[2naSalit]

28. +1

If he's really dead.

[LakeArenal]

30. I thought the same.

Jeffrey Dhamer was in our prison. He didn’t last long either.

I felt the same would be for Epstein

[SHRED]

32. Would he have talked?

Why would he?
No incentive.

[bucolic_frolic]

53. +100000x

[RockCreek]

38. Did he have a backup island in the Carribean, or did one of his buddies give him theirs?

What old jewish homeless man that looked as bit like Epstein is missing from the streets of NYC for the past month? And does the body found have a somewhat too-new looking Nixon tattoo on the back?

[malaise]

41. He does - in the Virgin Islands

This stinks

[Miles Archer]

68. If I'm not mistaken, the locals nicknamed the place "Pedophile Island."

And yes, it stinks.

[AndJusticeForSome]

80. Conflating Stone for Epstein?

Or did JE also have a tattoo?

[IronLionZion]

40. Trumpsters claiming the Clintons did it

[malaise]

42. Where was this place located

On Fifth Avenue?

[KPN]

45. Suicided. No doubt in my mind. Just a matter

of who pulled the strings to make it happen. Something we will never know with this DOJ. Perhaps if and when we ever regain control, something I increasingly doubt with shit like this and Gordon going on, we will for once focus on the past. How can we ever truly save and restore our once great nation without squaring with the past? If we ever do regain control, we’d better look back; we’d better seek reconciliation AND accountability. There must be consequences since there will be one way or the other. Better to save and restore our once great democracy.

[spanone]

48. K&R...

[Sunsky]

49. Suicide or Suicided indeed

This stinks. There will be "non-alcoholic" wine sipping for Trump today. More and more his shoot someone and get away with it speech, rings true.

[H2O Man]

54. Recommended.

"Strange days have found us." -- Jim Morrison

[malaise]

60. Cohen and Manafort must be

tres nervous

[Gothmog]

55. From Betty Bowers

Link to tweet

[kiri]

66. hanged not hung

Grammatical detail:
to hang a picture--I hung the mirror yesterday. We have hung many curtains in our time.
contrast: He hanged himself yesterday. They hanged him for murder. Many were hanged on this gallows.
note: "hangings", never hungings;

is gallows plural? probably not

[Generic Other]

56. Why does it smell like Enron around here?

Yup. Same fishy smell.

[H2O Man]

59. +1

[malaise]

61. Cohen and Manafort better watch the hooks and nets

[calimary]

77. Yep.

[snort]

62. He was in the business of blackmail.

[FraDon]

63. He faked his death. He's gone. A Mossad operation.

He's unwinding in a safe house at this moment.

Who would you trust to perform an independent autopsy and DNA confirmation?

Billions buy backdoors.

[malaise]

64. With this bunch anything is possible

[LenaBaby61]

65. I was talking to my next door neighbor this past Monday ...

And we were speculating on when Epstein would exit this world.

He told me that he won't leave until it's all "set up" right.

I said it's sure taking a LOT 'longer' than I thought for Epstein to leave. That was no false alarm when they found him in his cell the 1st time with bruises on his neck (An apparent suicide. Yeah sure), but I guess THIS time that plague on this earth got the 'right' person to assist him in getting on out of here. In other words, "assisted suicide."

I had a strong feeling, as many of us who have a moderately functioning brain that he'd be "leaving," but WHEN, we never knew. He knew too much about and had too much on too many powerful filth balls like him. He dipped too far down into filthy cookie jar threatening/blackmailing too many of his uh 'clients' along the way. All those monies and gold bricks did him no good in the end.

There's still more than enough out there to 'get' others tangled up in his web of rape and pure filth. I Wonder what's happening with all of that 'evidence' that I've read/heard about that they had on him?

The 'case' proceeds without him

[calimary]

67. My husband said the same thing recently.

The last time Epstein’s name came up in the news.

He woke me up this morning with a “remember what I said about Jeffrey Epstein?” I replied “dead?” He answered “yup. In his jail cell.” I responded “gee, how convenient.”

I guess that’s one way to guarantee Bill Barr’s mouth stays shut. That was very likely a two-fer: take care of the main “problem,” while sending a VERY clear message to other “potential problems.”

[malaise]

72. He was correct

[Generic Other]

79. Look at this tweet from Wash Post reporter, Malaise

Carol Leonnig@CarolLeonnig
People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...

Link to tweet

[triron]

82. Yet so many here call it a 'conspiracy theory' and irresponsible.

[MadDAsHell]

81. Congrats I guess? nt