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RandySF

(58,794 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:28 PM Aug 2019

I think Epstein very likely killed himself.

I remember what it was like at the peak of my anxiety attacks walking around the sixth floor of an office building looking for a window that would open. Fortunately for me, Iwas able to find treatment and change the life circumstances that lead to my condition. But I can see how Epstein, a man of privilege facing real time for child trafficking and (potentially) child pornography charges could have seen no way out, especially with Trump and Dershowitz throwing him under the bus. So for now, I am going to operate of the assumption that he really killed himself.

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I think Epstein very likely killed himself. (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2019 OP
The question is why didn't the authorities do more BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #1
Correct. It was facilitated. brush Aug 2019 #6
Unless evidence to the contrary turns up, I will, too. Aristus Aug 2019 #2
Yes. What you said. cwydro Aug 2019 #19
I think that is the case as well Dennis Donovan Aug 2019 #3
There was no way for it to happen without it being facilitated. Come on! brush Aug 2019 #4
With Epstein dead, that's one less person Trump will pardon. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #5
I honestly think I would do it if I knew there was no possibility I would ever get out of prison mucifer Aug 2019 #7
Especially for pedophiles. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #16
I think he killed himself. My question is more about what protocols were followed to prevent it. dameatball Aug 2019 #8
Epstein is probably alive and well in Saudi Arabia. Meadowoak Aug 2019 #9
Yes, but they LET HIM. They had full control of him and knew that he was pnwmom Aug 2019 #10
If he did indeed kill himself - it was facilitated. harumph Aug 2019 #11
Didn't Epstein himself claim he was attacked? PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #13
Consider the set up he arranged when last he was jailed. flotsam Aug 2019 #12
I too think he killed himself. nt frogmarch Aug 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author frogmarch Aug 2019 #15
I don't think he was anxious at all. I think he knew his run was up, and did what he probably had WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #17
This. cwydro Aug 2019 #18

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
1. The question is why didn't the authorities do more
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:34 PM
Aug 2019

or at least something to prevent it. Lifting the suicide watch a few days ago is unfathomable.

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
2. Unless evidence to the contrary turns up, I will, too.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:34 PM
Aug 2019

It's amazing how many people can embrace the idea that JFK was killed by space aliens working for Cuba and the Mob.

Every parent on the planet had a compelling motive for killing Epstein. So did every one of his partners in crime. But pedophiles and child pornographers are bunch of sniveling cowards. Taking the easy way out is not at all farfetched.

mucifer

(23,537 posts)
7. I honestly think I would do it if I knew there was no possibility I would ever get out of prison
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 01:42 PM
Aug 2019

US prisons are horrific.

harumph

(1,898 posts)
11. If he did indeed kill himself - it was facilitated.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:10 PM
Aug 2019

After the prior attempt reported 7-25 - there can be no reasonable explanation for him
not remaining on suicide watch. Gosh, it's as if someone wanted him to do it.

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
13. Didn't Epstein himself claim he was attacked?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:05 PM
Aug 2019

Curious as to how quickly the "suicide" story started after he was found unconscious with finger marks around his neck in July? As quickly as today's "suicide" story?

P.S. He was taken off suicide watch because he repeatedly told them that he was attacked.

Things that make you go hmmmm.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
12. Consider the set up he arranged when last he was jailed.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:04 PM
Aug 2019

No way he gets that level of freedom but the kind of money he controlled could have bought protection (Ayran Brotherhood:"Hey Jew Boy!". Epstein:"How would your organization like operating funds for as long as I live?".) and every other perk available inside. I might kill myself but not until I knew what my sentence was and what that lifestyle did and didn't include...

Response to RandySF (Original post)

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
17. I don't think he was anxious at all. I think he knew his run was up, and did what he probably had
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:26 PM
Aug 2019

planned for years to do.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. This.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:58 PM
Aug 2019

Spot on.

He certainly would have planned the final exit, even if he thought or hoped it wouldn’t be necessary.

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