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UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:20 AM Aug 2019

BARR visited the EPSTEIN jail? "When does that happen? Atty Gen never visits jails."

Well, just cashing in on one of SHITLER's conspiracy theories... one for one, he spews one, here's one back!1

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https://nypost.com/2019/08/11/former-gotti-confidant-says-jail-where-jeffrey-epstein-died-catered-toward-wealthy-inmates/

Jeffrey Epstein could have ‘paid’ for help with suicide: Former Gotti pal

.... “If he killed himself someone had to have helped him,” said Lewis Kasman, a onetime close confidant of the Dapper Don who visited the godfather several times at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in 1992.

“There are cameras going 24/7 and they’re watching 24/7. Someone had to give [Epstein] the equipment to kill himself and he had to pay for it dearly,” said Kasman, who has kept abreast of conditions in the lockup.

Kasman added: “That facility for years had issues of corruption, with correction officers bringing in food or cellphones for wealthy people.” ....

Kasman said he heard US Attorney General William Barr personally made a hush-hush trip to the MCC two weeks ago, about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck.

“When does that happen?” he asked. “The attorney general never visits jails. Something’s not right there.” ....

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BARR visited the EPSTEIN jail? "When does that happen? Atty Gen never visits jails." (Original Post) UTUSN Aug 2019 OP
Has the stench of coverup written all over it, doesnt it? onetexan Aug 2019 #1
Hardly. Has click bait written all over it. PSPS Aug 2019 #3
Whew, thanks, I was quaking you meant the O.P.!1 UTUSN Aug 2019 #4
umm...but it is rather odd the AG would visit a jail? onetexan Aug 2019 #15
We don't know that he did. A crook's made-up claim doesn't mean anything. PSPS Aug 2019 #16
i don't consider the article click bait. it may be to you but it brings up a very valid question - onetexan Aug 2019 #17
We know "what exactly happened." The guy hanged himself. There is no mystery. PSPS Aug 2019 #19
Any other prisoner SCVDem Aug 2019 #27
"Dirt on trump" or not, child molesters almost always kill themselves. PSPS Aug 2019 #28
"child molesters almost always kill themselves" onetexan Aug 2019 #32
It happens all the time. PSPS Aug 2019 #51
Heard they were killed by other prisoners. And where are all the bodies of dead priests? bobbieinok Aug 2019 #35
In most cases, the priests have already died of old age before they were identified. PSPS Aug 2019 #52
Got any data to back that claim up? SlogginThroughIt Aug 2019 #40
Epstein committed suicide. It's that simple. It wasn't a mossad/clinton/trump/barr "plot." Sorry. PSPS Aug 2019 #48
I didn't male that claim. SlogginThroughIt Aug 2019 #84
Agree. The camera footage must be released, and if it was turned off all the more reason to onetexan Aug 2019 #31
LOL "Coverup." The long tentacles of clinton/trump/barr/deep-state strike again!!11! PSPS Aug 2019 #50
Keep your OPINIONS to yourself puleeez onetexan Aug 2019 #66
He had dirt on a lot more than Trump Polybius Aug 2019 #38
LOL. So now, "he was killed." OK. trump/clinton/mossad/barr/richardson/mitchell did it!!11!! PSPS Aug 2019 #49
No not 'we'. You only imagine that. Get real. triron Aug 2019 #53
Right. We need to find John Gotti's brain! jberryhill Aug 2019 #75
I agree the post is crap. NCLefty Aug 2019 #79
"stench of coverup" mitch96 Aug 2019 #59
I'd bet my money on it they'll do exactly as you've said onetexan Aug 2019 #67
LOL. The NY Post sure knows how to generate clicks. PSPS Aug 2019 #2
NY Post? What's next? National Enquirer? Weekly World News? nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2019 #5
First with the pic of Epstein being carried out? empedocles Aug 2019 #34
I'd like to know who Kasman heard that from. nt SunSeeker Aug 2019 #6
We'll never know because he made it up. The Post likely paid him. PSPS Aug 2019 #9
Like this? Zoonart Aug 2019 #7
You do realize that was fiction, right? PSPS Aug 2019 #13
just like this crap you are pushing? Larrybanal Aug 2019 #42
I know he committed suicide. PSPS Aug 2019 #47
no, you don't Larrybanal Aug 2019 #62
Another scene from the GF - 'it was Barzini' empedocles Aug 2019 #36
The OP reminded me of the same thing. I posted it, too, but you were first. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #74
Absolutely. Zoonart Aug 2019 #82
When drumpf et al is involved, everything corrupt is possible. democratisphere Aug 2019 #8
I'm starting to think Epstein was arrested in order to shut him down forever lanlady Aug 2019 #10
I think that's why all crooks are arrested -- to "shut them down forever." PSPS Aug 2019 #12
That's been my guess since he was arrested. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2019 #22
Conspiracy theory from a "former Gambino bean counter." Christ. Hoyt Aug 2019 #11
How many threads on this internet board are intended to be worthy of The Harvard Law Review? UTUSN Aug 2019 #14
LOL. Good question! Sadly, many people treat everything they read on the internet as truthful. PSPS Aug 2019 #18
Dig this... jberryhill Aug 2019 #71
Barr and Epstein also are connected through Barr Sr Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #20
Is it just a rumor that Barr visited Metropolitan Correctional Center or is there a solid source? Botany Aug 2019 #21
The article leaves that detail dangling (so to speak). The speaker "heard" it. UTUSN Aug 2019 #23
Rumor. No legitimate news source is reporting it. nt Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2019 #54
a rumor to add to the consipracy theory mill.....hey! Thomas Hurt Aug 2019 #24
Former Gotti associate says he "heard" Barr visited the MCC StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #25
That point has been made multiple times in this thread from the O.P. on down. Thanks. UTUSN Aug 2019 #26
Givn the number of people taking it seriously in this thread, it obviously bears repeating. StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #63
Well, the same guy was right about John Gotti's Brain being taken to Gitmo jberryhill Aug 2019 #72
Well, there you have it. StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #80
Yep jberryhill Aug 2019 #81
Seems like Barr needs to make a subpoenaed trip up to Capital Hill Generic Other Aug 2019 #29
Yea, especially since he's so willing to open many investigations based on less rumors than this!1 UTUSN Aug 2019 #30
they should bring up trump's accusing Clinton's as reason to also JI7 Aug 2019 #43
Yes Generic Other Aug 2019 #44
IIRC Ashcroft visited McVeigh (OKC Bombing) on death row bobbieinok Aug 2019 #33
I don't think so OKNancy Aug 2019 #37
Did criminal Barr kiss Epstein on the lips . . . Iliyah Aug 2019 #39
They visited Rommel and helped him decide too. Historic NY Aug 2019 #41
Here ya go underthematrix Aug 2019 #45
Yeah, right - stopped in for a little secret close-quarter shibari practice. Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #46
Barr went to inform him... not_the_one Aug 2019 #55
Reminds me when Tom Hagan visited Freddy Five-Angels PatrickforO Aug 2019 #56
He's a snake.. kentuck Aug 2019 #57
My sis just made a joke about an Epstein-Barr virus... TrunKated Aug 2019 #58
Sounds clever. triron Aug 2019 #60
Barr Visiting Epstein in Jail is Just Hear Say and Shouldn't be Taken as Fact Until It's Verified Indykatie Aug 2019 #61
You changed it to "Visiting Epstein". UTUSN Aug 2019 #76
I remember a story about Barr mysteriously being in NYC from a couple weeks ago. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2019 #64
Barr would do whatever Trump asked him to do. kentuck Aug 2019 #65
OK it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the fucking dots here... Blue Owl Aug 2019 #68
It started with taking Gotti's brain to Gitmo jberryhill Aug 2019 #69
Posting doesn't imply the poster's credence or possession or extrapolation. UTUSN Aug 2019 #73
Sure. Kasman was only convicted of fraud and lying to a grand jury jberryhill Aug 2019 #77
I've replied to you before in previous lifetimes I have no interest in sparring with you. UTUSN Aug 2019 #78
Like when Tom Hagen visited Frankie Five Angels. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #70
As Trump's attorney he has to defend his client 🙄 live love laugh Aug 2019 #83

PSPS

(13,597 posts)
3. Hardly. Has click bait written all over it.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:23 AM
Aug 2019

The Post will dig up any charlatan to make a "sensational story."

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
17. i don't consider the article click bait. it may be to you but it brings up a very valid question -
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019

what exactly happened? sure it stirs up curiosity, but there are many click baitish posts here @DU too with nothingbergers.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
27. Any other prisoner
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:27 PM
Aug 2019

I would believe it right away.

Anyone with dirt on dump?

How can we believe anything they say?

Putin wins. I do not trust our government until I see proof!

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
32. "child molesters almost always kill themselves"
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:42 PM
Aug 2019

Pure speculation on your part. No need to be expressing your opinion as fact.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
40. Got any data to back that claim up?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:12 PM
Aug 2019

oh and not just data showing that some have but that they almost always do.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
84. I didn't male that claim.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:57 PM
Aug 2019

I was referring to your assertion that child molesters almost always commit suicide. Do they? And do you have any data or sources to back that up?

I would be interested i seeing that data. Or is it more of a guess on your part?

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
31. Agree. The camera footage must be released, and if it was turned off all the more reason to
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:41 PM
Aug 2019

investigate the coverup. They should also release the autopsy report and have it verified by an independent third party.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
66. Keep your OPINIONS to yourself puleeez
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:33 PM
Aug 2019

Your baseless pronouncements are beginning to become as annoying as the DOTUS.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
38. He had dirt on a lot more than Trump
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:06 PM
Aug 2019

He had links to both sides of the isle, and two came out the day before he was killed (Richardson and Mitchell). Many wanted him gone.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
75. Right. We need to find John Gotti's brain!
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:50 PM
Aug 2019

I agree with you. Lewis Kasman has been ignored far too long.

We need to demand they return John Gotti’s brain from Gitmo!

https://radaronline.com/videos/feds-stole-john-gottis-brain-for-experiments-claims-his-adopted-son/

Following real-life Godfather John Gotti’s death, sticky-fingered G-men swiped the Italian-American gangster’s brain and shipped it to a super-secret facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — for scientific experimentation!

This unsettling allegation comes to RadarOnline.com by way of the Gambino crime family boss’ adopted son, Lewis Kasman, 61.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
79. I agree the post is crap.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:30 PM
Aug 2019

I never use their links to show people stories.

I've no idea what happened to Epstein, of course.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
59. "stench of coverup"
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

How much you want to bet Barr is gonna seal all the evidence, inspect it and white wash it..
Take out all the people that would be implicated in the civil suit... YMMV
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aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
74. The OP reminded me of the same thing. I posted it, too, but you were first.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:49 PM
Aug 2019


Tom Hagen and Frankie Five Angels is really a beautifully written and acted scene.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
10. I'm starting to think Epstein was arrested in order to shut him down forever
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

I just saw a WP reporter talking on Morning Joy about the unusual circumstances behind his incarceration, beginning with the fact that his original cellmate was a big guy, former cop who had murdered four people - not where the police would normally put a high-profile criminal accused of child rape. Made me wonder whether he was arrested for the express purpose of arranging his death.

PSPS

(13,597 posts)
12. I think that's why all crooks are arrested -- to "shut them down forever."
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:36 AM
Aug 2019

The rest is just wild-eyed speculative hyperbole to keep people watching "Morning Joy's" commercials.

UTUSN

(70,691 posts)
14. How many threads on this internet board are intended to be worthy of The Harvard Law Review?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

Or to be taken literally?






PSPS

(13,597 posts)
18. LOL. Good question! Sadly, many people treat everything they read on the internet as truthful.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:48 AM
Aug 2019
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
71. Dig this...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:46 PM
Aug 2019

Same guy...

https://radaronline.com/videos/feds-stole-john-gottis-brain-for-experiments-claims-his-adopted-son/

Following real-life Godfather John Gotti’s death, sticky-fingered G-men swiped the Italian-American gangster’s brain and shipped it to a super-secret facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — for scientific experimentation!

This unsettling allegation comes to RadarOnline.com by way of the Gambino crime family boss’ adopted son, Lewis Kasman, 61.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
20. Barr and Epstein also are connected through Barr Sr
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:53 AM
Aug 2019
The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump

Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019

During Attorney General, William Barr’s confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasse’s (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.

This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.

Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, “he was something of a Robin Williams–in–Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs.” Epstein’s mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns’ chairman, Alan “Ace” Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.

Continues....

https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107

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Contemporaries in life and beyond.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
21. Is it just a rumor that Barr visited Metropolitan Correctional Center or is there a solid source?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

n/t

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
24. a rumor to add to the consipracy theory mill.....hey!
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:09 PM
Aug 2019

maybe the new conspiracy should be that Clinton Barr and Trump were all in it together.....(smh)

The only thing that is likely at this point is that someone's incompetence allowed him to kill himself.

Someone will fall on their sword or be scapegoated and that will be the end of this.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
72. Well, the same guy was right about John Gotti's Brain being taken to Gitmo
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:48 PM
Aug 2019
https://radaronline.com/videos/feds-stole-john-gottis-brain-for-experiments-claims-his-adopted-son/

Following real-life Godfather John Gotti’s death, sticky-fingered G-men swiped the Italian-American gangster’s brain and shipped it to a super-secret facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — for scientific experimentation!

This unsettling allegation comes to RadarOnline.com by way of the Gambino crime family boss’ adopted son, Lewis Kasman, 61.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
81. Yep
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:53 PM
Aug 2019

All we need to do is show that John Gotti’s brain is in Cuba and we’ve got the whole thing sewn up.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
29. Seems like Barr needs to make a subpoenaed trip up to Capital Hill
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:31 PM
Aug 2019

Under oath. I would think Nadler's and Schiff's committees would like to hear details.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
44. Yes
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

More ongoing obstruction. A pattern of behavior. The impeachment inquiry is not limited by to Russia, is it? They can investigate any high crimes.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
33. IIRC Ashcroft visited McVeigh (OKC Bombing) on death row
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:45 PM
Aug 2019

Refused to say why or what they talked about

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
37. I don't think so
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:05 PM
Aug 2019

I remember he came to visit the families right before his execution. He also went to the live video showing of his execution.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
46. Yeah, right - stopped in for a little secret close-quarter shibari practice.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:55 PM
Aug 2019

Oops - that knot's not quite right, hehehe. Leaves quickly.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
55. Barr went to inform him...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:17 PM
Aug 2019

So Sorry, that there was NO WAY he would be able to intercede, it was just to hot of a case, Epstein would never see the light of day again (as in free), he would not have it easy inside, so he should contact whomever he needed to, to do what he needed to do.

He would allow it.

My 2 cents.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
56. Reminds me when Tom Hagan visited Freddy Five-Angels
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:32 PM
Aug 2019

in federal prison. We all know what happened after that.

TrunKated

(210 posts)
58. My sis just made a joke about an Epstein-Barr virus...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

It was hysterical.

But you had to be there!

lol

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
61. Barr Visiting Epstein in Jail is Just Hear Say and Shouldn't be Taken as Fact Until It's Verified
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:55 PM
Aug 2019

There are many questions that need answers but I'm suspicious of this claim about Barr's visit. Even he's not that stupid and would have to know the public would eventually learn of it.

"Kasman said he heard US Attorney General William Barr personally made a hush-hush trip to the MCC two weeks ago, about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck".

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
64. I remember a story about Barr mysteriously being in NYC from a couple weeks ago.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:30 PM
Aug 2019

I don’t remember seeing a follow up explanation for his trip.

That doesn’t mean there was no explanation...only that I never saw it.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
65. Barr would do whatever Trump asked him to do.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:32 PM
Aug 2019

If Trump told him that Epstein would not commit suicide and that he did not need to be on a suicide watch, then Barr would see to it that the suicide watch be lifted, in my opinion.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
69. It started with taking Gotti's brain to Gitmo
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:43 PM
Aug 2019

Nice source you got there.

https://radaronline.com/videos/feds-stole-john-gottis-brain-for-experiments-claims-his-adopted-son/

Following real-life Godfather John Gotti’s death, sticky-fingered G-men swiped the Italian-American gangster’s brain and shipped it to a super-secret facility in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — for scientific experimentation!

This unsettling allegation comes to RadarOnline.com by way of the Gambino crime family boss’ adopted son, Lewis Kasman, 61.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
77. Sure. Kasman was only convicted of fraud and lying to a grand jury
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:57 PM
Aug 2019

Other than that, he’s mostly honest. If we can get Congress to look for Gotti’s brain in Gitmo, then we’ll have something.
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