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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:37 PM Aug 2019

They don't care about the damage they are doing to the planet, because..

.. they are theocratic literal interpreters of the bible.. it is convenient to be this in so many ways. In terms of how we choose to manage the planet they have an easy get out clause:

Genesis 1:28 -And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Having grown up in the religious right I can say without hesitation that the evangelical right that surround Trump see this verse as God giving them permission to do whatever they want to planet earth. God said it was OK so therefore nothing bad will happen.
Problem is how can you argue against that logic with a fundamentalist? Whatever you say you are not God so therefore you are wrong. And God has given his own personal soldiers in Christ permission to do what they want to the planet, and this same God will protect them from any disasters because they are the chosen ones.

In the meantime the world burns. Yet another reason why we need to get these people out of the White House. Policy based on mad far right fundamentalism to manage the environment is never going to be in the interests of the plant, at all.

Heh.
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ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
1. Well, they (we?) are totally failing at the "replenish" part...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:41 PM
Aug 2019

and, uhhhmmm, just try to subdue Mother Nature.

And the fish, fowl every living thing part? What "dominion" do you have over something that is extinct?

"Man, we dominioned the FUCK out of that Dodo Bird! High five!!"

CousinIT

(9,244 posts)
7. TO evangelicals "replenish" means BREED ie: quiverful movement.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:02 PM
Aug 2019

And of course that means Earth cannot sustain the human parasite that is sucking all the life out of it. We passed that threshold long time ago.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
2. Geeze..
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:48 PM
Aug 2019

I think God was saying just the reverse...Take care of the planet...
God may have made a mistake not spending more time on the importance of
keeping our house clean..May have thought his children had more common sense...

underpants

(182,803 posts)
3. Dominionists are just a moral cover and foot soldiers for the polluters.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:51 PM
Aug 2019

The polluters fund them and use them. It's that simple.

Thank you for providing your background and the insights. I agree with you but I didn't grow up in that world.

As I always say - the basis for the Reagan Revolution (they were in shambles after the 60's) was as protection for racists and polluters.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
13. Agree, that's my viewpoint.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

Based on a master plan or not, the plutocrats of the world have used the most sinister tricks imaginable against the common man and with no remorse. It's all about using divide-and-conquer to increase the wealth and power of the few.

Examples:
* As in the OP, co-opt churches to gain support of end-days believers so we can pollute the earth at will and strip it of all resources.
* Co-opt churches using emotional and economic issues such as abortion and to gain support of free-market prosperity gospel thinkers.
* Co-opt organizations that were formerly only mildly political (such as the NRA) to inflame relatively mundane constitutional issues into divisive political wars.
* Endear the public with the stock market using retirement investments so as to turn them against strong financial regulations and to cheer unbridled capitalism.

That list could go on forever.

They have plenty of resources to continue doing these things to our society until we rip ourselves apart with divisiveness...

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. the fundies are not willing to admit to the danger of climate change....
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:57 PM
Aug 2019

because if they admit to its existence, then the possibility that humans alone can end the world, as we know it, exists.

This would mean that the rapture, eternal life and God is a falsehood. Their entire world view would crash

They can't face that.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
5. When you believe in something as stupid as the rapture you don't need a sustaining planet.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:59 PM
Aug 2019


They're fucking nuts. I wish their stupid rapture WOULD happen & suck them all away.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
6. Those in charge are nihilists.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:02 PM
Aug 2019

They've tapped into religious dogma to manipulate supporters, but otherwise are amoral assholes who just do not care.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
8. Some use that as an excuse -- while really, they just don't care what happens after they die
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:03 PM
Aug 2019

even to their own descendants -- or they are overconfident that their descendants won't be the ones suffering. Those people are so morally bankrupt they are just as hard to deal with as a fundamentalist.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
9. I agree. Worked my career in federal public land management. I had more than one conversation
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:12 PM
Aug 2019

with managers in the agency who happened to be Christian who actually said things to me like "God created these resources on earth for people's use" when discussing the environmental impacts, sustainability and the limits of human use of natural resources. In essence, they were justifying environmental impacts on the basis of "scripture". These same people also believe in "the rapture". I always found the view alarming -- still do.

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
10. There are about 7.5 billion people on the earth.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:14 PM
Aug 2019

If about 7 billion of the poorest die, the remaining, say, 500 million will be fine. Do you think the top 500 million give a damn about the 7 billion?

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
11. The geriatric bunch ruining the planet will be dead soon
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:21 PM
Aug 2019

.and won't have to suffer, but they will die rich and happy. That's all that matters, dontcha know.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
12. I would think that because Fundies believe in God they would
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:27 PM
Aug 2019

want to protect God's creation - Heaven and EARTH. They demand that an unborn baby be protected, why not our home, the planet...all life. What am I missing?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
14. Like most of us here, what you are missing is....
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:56 PM
Aug 2019

the ability to think like an amoral billionaire.

They.....
* only care about the unborn to get votes from evangelic churches. That's proven by the fact that when in power, they severely cut welfare programs that help feed and provide basic healthcare for the poor. In short, they kill a lot of poor people that have no voice.

* believe that due to their extreme wealth, they will always be protected from effects of climate change, pollution and uncontrolled stripping of our planet's resources. So, to protect profits, they are at war against any forms of environmental regulation or controls on resource usage.

KY........

moondust

(19,981 posts)
15. Throughout history
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:20 PM
Aug 2019

religion has been used to justify committing some of the worst acts imaginable, from Crusades to Jihad and ISIS. I suppose it has something to do with believers learning to live in a way they believe will get them into heaven and self-righteously condemning anything else as godless. Forget about "critical thinking" and "facts."

JudyM

(29,241 posts)
16. My jaw hit the ground when my fundie neighbor informed me
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:05 PM
Aug 2019

that even if climate change is real, it doesn’t matter because the world will be saved, and I need to trust that instead of feeling action is needed.

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