"Narcissists never commit suicide"

[Mike 03]

Wrong. Especially when you're talking about "older adults."

There is a popular belief that “Narcissists rarely
commit suicide. When a Narcissist threatens to do this,
it’s generally as a means of manipulation” (Saeed
2014). However, studies suggest that NPD is associated
with suicidal behavior (Stone 1989, Links et al. 2003,
Heisel et al. 2007). For example, a 15-year follow up
study of patients admitted to a psychiatric hospital in
New York showed that patients with NPD or narcissistic
traits were significantly more likely to die from suicide
compared to individuals without NPD or narcissistic
traits (Stone 1989). Another study found that depressed
older adults with narcissistic personalities were at
increased suicide risk (Heisel et al. 2007). It has been
observed that patients with NPD can be at elevated
suicide risk not only during periods when they are
depressed but also during periods when they are not
suffering from depression (Ronningstam & Maltsberger
1998).

Study here: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/062a/7c41518fecf0e806309e722ecb1dba016ef0.pdf

Another case study:

Eleven Deaths of Mr. K.—Contributing Factors to
Suicide in Narcissistic Personalities

The objective of this paper is to discuss and illuminate the problem of abrupt suicide in relatively well-functioning individuals without a major DSM-IV mental illness. A case of a man diagnosed with narcissistic personality, who first allegedly
staged a suicide attempt and later, without overt warning, killed himself in the context of financial losses and divorce, will be discussed. The paper addresses how and
why a life event can generate an internal subjective experience that evokes a sudden
deadly self-attack. Discussion of eleven explanatory hypotheses serves to further
the understanding of these seemingly inexplicable events. We conclude that additional studies are necessary, especially of the interconnected interaction between
life event, psychological functioning, and neurobiological correlates to expand
understanding and develop proactive treatment strategies.

https://depts.washington.edu/psyclerk/secure/articles/eleven-deaths-narcissist.pdf

There's a lot more. I just googled "Do narcissists commit suicide" and up come the studies. I used to believe this too until I began reading books about Narcissism. There's a very dangerous time for a narcissist: When he runs out of "narcissistic supply"--that is, the people he depends upon to reflect back his power to him.

Imagine a cult leader without followers. Think of a narcissist you know or knew. He needed his victims or he completely lost his purpose in life.

EDIT: In some situations, you could even argue that suicide is the ultimate narcissistic act, because it denies the victims any closure.

[Aristus]

1. Sure they do.

Emperor Nero committed suicide.

His dying words were: "What an artist the world is losing!"

That's about as narcissistic as one can get.

[Thomas Hurt]

2. Absolutely, If the Orange Menace woke tomorrow morning

and found he was an anonymous nobody I think he would end it.

The Presidency is his new high and he wants more. He wants to be just like Chubby Un.

[RockRaven]

3. Nero, Hitler, Jim Jones, that Hale-Bopp suicide cult guy, the list is long

Nobody should resort to that bad argument; there are plenty of good reasons to say there were anomalies, errors, and possibly malfeasance surrounding Epstein's death and a Trump/Barr DOJ is entirely without credibility when it comes to an investigation/oversight of the same.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. What will Fat Nixon do when he's no longer the president

and can't stage his huge Nuremberg rallies at government expense? I'm sure he'll try to find a way to keep the adoration of his cult members, and he might even be successful for a while, but when his attraction for them fades - and eventually it will - what will he do? I've never seen anyone crave attention as much as he does.

[Wednesdays]

11. Fox Network will give him his own TV show

Mark my words.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Assuming he's still got his evil mojo.

Fox cares only about its bottom line, and I predict that once Spanky is out of office he'll be interesting to his former base for no more than a year.

[smirkymonkey]

13. Ultimate, the man is a bore. He's only got one bag of tricks up his sleeve and sooner or later,

people are going to get sick of him. There is already talk of people in his audience walking out on him because his schtick is so repetitive and boring.

He's not delivering on his promises and people will catch on eventually. This man has nothing to offer them except hate rhetoric, but that only goes so far, and they will get bored with him or turn on him altogether.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. He ran out of material a long time ago, and once his ugly orange ass is out of the WH

even his cult members will start to notice.

[MontanaMama]

5. My mom was a narcissist who also had

borderline personality disorder ...she was suicidal my whole life. She threatened to kill herself often...I never knew if I’d come home from school to find her dead or alive. When she got a very curable form of cancer, she chose to do nothing about it despite her doctor telling her treatments would most likely be very successful and it ultimately ended her life. Her doctor called it suicide by cancer. It was a grueling two years for my sister and me...the ones who cared for her. It makes me sad and angry to think that the narcissist in her wanted it to be hard on us, but I will never really know.

[duforsure]

6. I don't believe it was a suicide

And Barr is one of many involved in his death.

[malaise]

7. Thanks for this

Fingers and toes crossed

[nolabear]

8. The thing that makes one suicide is what narcissism protects against.

It’s just about impossible to feel sympathy for someone whose whole personality structure denies the humanity of others and simply sees them as objects that endlessly reassure the narcissist that they are in fact superior, special, deserving of things others are not.

But that incessant need doesn’t come from nowhere, and when the delusion falls apart the depth of that hole and the agony of never thinking (likely rightly) you will ever get out of it, coupled with the real world repercussions from the damage you’ve done, can absolutely lead to suicide.

No idea what Epstein’s story is, but it is certainly possible for someone like him to take what he might have seen as a “noble” end. Death before revelation. Even self-revelation.

[cbdo2007]

9. Suicide is often the most narcissistic thing someone can do.

[Hekate]

10. Very interesting thread. 5th Rec.