The Entire Epstein Investigation Is A Complete Farce

[Me.]

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All manner of contradictory info regarding his death, Barr's interference (once again), the evidence in his townhouse and island house has disappeared because there was a tip-off. Julie K. Brown asks what took the FBI so long to look for the evidence. WE are never going to really know the truth of all this and the people involved because once again, privilege prevails/mob criminality prevails.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

1. don't forget TrumPutin getting ahead of conspiracy news

The orange MAGAt always projects. Him posting about a Clinton conspiracy just means: a. he's part of one, and b. he wants to discredit any and all talk about a conspiracy.

There's a lot of ill-gotten money and a lot of reputations behind the curtains. What we will get are just peeks.

[cilla4progress]

5. I said this exact thing here yesterday about projection.

I know that many level-headed individuals think those of us who "know" there was a conspiracy on the right including murder are crazy, but so be it.

Question: why oh why has no one spilled the beans or come forward about any of this yet? Yes, I'm sure there are death threats and payoffs, but it sure as hell seems someONE would break the facade of lies and evil.

[brush]

29. The Maxwell woman can't be found either. If she turns up dead also we'll know...

Epstein's death was not unassisted.

[Me.]

30. Time Will Tell

[brush]

33. IMO even if he somehow managed to hang himself, it was assisted as all the condidtions...

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for him to be able to do that—Barr, the AG visited the jail days before, taken off suicide watch, cell mate taken away, surveillance cameras conveniently not working, substitute guard conveniently negligent in checking on him regularly, a sheet allegedly supplied in his cell—all these conditions were provided.

The highest profile prisoner in the nation with info on rich and powerful people from the president on down and all those co-incidents just happened?

Please!

[Me.]

35. A Whiff You Can Smell From NY To DC

[Blue_true]

37. I would not be surprised if she is found dead.

There are four women that assisted him outside of Maxwell, one is now married to a pretty good NASCAR driver and has multi-million dollar homes in three states. One other, one said to be his most trusted assistant, lives in Pennsylvania. Another woman is now a licensed airline pilot and social media influencer, the fourth woman was from Poland and has simply vanished.

Of the four other women, the only one that was also a victim is the now airline pilot, her parents in Serbia sold her to Epstein at 15. She was raped by him and made a sex slave, then she worked to lure other girls into his web.

[Pacifist Patriot]

14. In a climate of an avalanche of conspiracy theories about almost everything, scandals get mistreated

It is a legitimate scandal that the most (in)famous prisoner in the US federal prison system committed suicide. It raises serious questions that deserve real answers.

People floating conspiracy theories do so for a variety of reasons. But I absolutely agree. With Trump, you can't rule out projection and obfuscation. And the press seems to be largely taking the bait. Of course the Clinton murder theory is an absurd conspiracy theory. So to be fair and balanced, advocating that a suicide under the circumstances deserves scrutiny is treated as just another conspiracy theory rather than a realistic reaction to the event.

[hlthe2b]

2. where have you seen it reported that FBI found nothing in his NYC home or the island or NM estates?

[Me.]

6. MSNBC

they said that in the townhouse there were just wires hanging loose from the ceilings and as in my OP, Julie K. Brown, the writer from the Miami Herald said people had been tipped off as to oncoming raids. Didn't say anything about NM that we heard.

[calimary]

22. Wires hanging loose from the ceilings - what is the significance of that?

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Suspicious “electronic-things-that-were-there-that-are-now-missing"?

Or stuff that the cops already confiscated?

[Me.]

25. YeP

don't quite get it unless there was some big deal set up and apparently computers were taken out before the Feds got there, though it was said they could still access the info.

[walkingman]

3. At this point I am beginning to believe the entire US government is a farce. It is owned by

corporations and run for the benefit of corporations.

[not fooled]

20. A playground for the wealthy

with a thin veneer of freedom and rule of law.

[USALiberal]

4. Links to your facts please! Nt

[Me.]

8. MSNBC

However, just now on Velshi/Ruhle they're talking about it, and computers being removed from island house. They're now saying things were removed before probable cause warrants were issued, but also questioned if there was a corrupt influence involved.

[Moostache]

7. I'm shocked....shocked I say, to hear that the rich are getting over on the poor (again)

This is 21st century America for you - if you are poor and of color, the very act of EXISTING is enough to get you summarily executed on our city streets; but if you are an unconscionable monster but happen to be white, well then you get special sentences, special treatment and your accomplices get special circumstances to arrange your demise without themselves facing the music too...

When the crime of selling loose cigarettes is punishable by death on a street corner, but the crimes of sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, sex trafficking and statutory rape of minors is punishable by 13 months of minimum security 'prison', then the "law" is a cruel hoax; and the reality is we no longer liver under rule of law, but under rule of cash and influence purchased with said cash.

This version of America is profoundly sick and cannot be saved from within by a noble, loyal opposition. This perversion of America is an abomination that must be scrubbed clean and started from scratch...the obstruction of the Senate under GOP leadership, and the stacking of the judiciary with ideologues by Trump's henchmen have pretty much doomed the existing checks and balances in favor of gerrymandering and partisan judges.

America sacrificed its soul when Sandy Hook happened and NOTHING happened in response to that horror. It is NOT just about guns and access and the NRA and the 2nd amendment...it is entirely about the nation not being able to muster enough moral clarity in the face of evil to do SOMETHING about it, to respond, to even TRY to make things better. This nation has been a decaying husk of a corpse from that dreadful day forward, and now it is past the point of no return.

All of this ends, as all things must...I just do not believe the ending will be peaceful or what anyone envisions right now...

[Me.]

9. So True

Epstein went on for decades with his dirty deeds and no consequences while Mr. Gardner was killed for trying to sell 5 cigs that he had paid for.

[UTUSN]

10. K&R but I'd change "privilege prevails" to "mob criminality prevails"

[Me.]

11. Check OP

[UTUSN]

13. Wow, I'm flattered!1

[duforsure]

12. Barr's a putin plant

I think all planned out to make troubles go away, and because Barr is compromised with trump and many others, so his investigations are all staged. The House needs to look into it all, including Putin ties to Epstein and and Barr and his dad, and was Epstein selling dirt to putin to use to compromise people with in our government.

[Me.]

15. THere Was A Connection To Epstein From His Father

Just don't know what it means, only that I've wondered why Barr's father would hire someone to teach at a prestigious private school who was so clearly unqualified. Apparently...

“in the mid-1970s, students at one of New York’s most esteemed prep schools were surprised to encounter a new teacher who pushed the limits on the school’s strict dress code, wandering the halls in a fur coat, gold chains and an open shirt that exposed his chest.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-teacher.html

[lame54]

16. This far from over...

Barr is going to exploit any evidence of dem involvement and bury any evidence of repug involvement

Barr is going to make this a dem thing before the election

[bluestarone]

17. The ONLY investigation that i believe in would be AFTER

We win in 2020!! FULL DEMOCRATIC investigation of EVERYTHING!! For 8 years!

[jalan48]

18. Too many powerful men all across the board are involved. This is going to quickly disappear

with maybe a few patsies taking the blame.

[malaise]

19. I think you're right

This stinks

[ancianita]

21. We will. You can't put a lid on truth. Humans are attracted to it like light. Which it is.

[ashredux]

23. Some Facts.....

Facts:

1. Bill Barr is connected to Jeffrey Epstein via his father.
2. The Florida newspaper started running their stories about the old Epstein’s case in Nov. 2018
3. The entire sordid mess is back.
4. Bill Barr’s “audition”memo to Trump for the job of Attorney General in June 2018
5. After Bill Barr becomes attorney general, Jeffrey Epstein gets arrested and put in jail.
6. Now Jeffrey Epstein is dead.

[ashredux]

24. Now, you do the "math"

[Catherine Vincent]

26. I agree...it's crock.

And you have them putting the guards on administrative leave.

[kacekwl]

27. I said it weeks ago, again, anything to do with trump

Will magically disappear. No collusion no rape. Totally exonerated.

[Kid Berwyn]

28. AG Wm. Barr. Start with him.

His father hired Epstein to teach at his prep school, for pity’s sake.

That won’t be coming up at Epstein’s trial as now there won’t be one, ever.

[diva77]

31. Dems should continue to censure Barr and open impeachment inquiry against him so it will slow down

any possibility of him being appointed to SCOTUS at some point

[former9thward]

32. Ahhh, No.

Barr is 69. He is well beyond the age that you can be appointed to the SC.

[diva77]

34. I've never heard of an age cut-off for appt. to SC

This is what I found:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/faq_general.aspx

The Constitution does not specify qualifications for Justices such as age, education, profession, or native-born citizenship. A Justice does not have to be a lawyer or a law school graduate, but all Justices have been trained in the law. Many of the 18th and 19th century Justices studied law under a mentor because there were few law schools in the country.

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I believe your post is incorrect.
I wish it were true.

[former9thward]

39. Please name a SC Justice who was appointed at age 69 or later.

I will not hold my breath.

[Blue_true]

36. I am beginning to get that sense also.

Raid his Florida home two days after about him being arrested in New Jersey, find computers and storage devices and file cabinets gone. Raid his Virgin Island properties weeks later after he killed hinself in jail.

It seems like someone is trying to make it look like the raids are to find evidence, while the raid organizers know nothing will be found.

[Me.]

38. Why Did They Wait So Long After Arrest

I'd like to know