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Takket

(21,563 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:24 PM Aug 2019

What do you think immigration laws should be?

Specifically these two situations:

What should happen to someone who is attempting to enter the country at a port of entry?

What should happen to persons who are here already, undocumented, with no history of criminal activity?

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What do you think immigration laws should be? (Original Post) Takket Aug 2019 OP
asylum bdamomma Aug 2019 #1
That is exactly my opinion Takket Aug 2019 #3
Absolutely Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #8
Agree. People coming to POE and seeking asylum should get a hearing as required sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #6
First step is levy huge fines on those Phoenix61 Aug 2019 #2
Yes, this is what will have the biggest effect on the issue. MichMan Aug 2019 #4
I'm all for having a way for them to Phoenix61 Aug 2019 #5
Sort of light on specifics but some broad principles: Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #7
did anyone hear the results just asking bdamomma Aug 2019 #9

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
1. asylum
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:31 PM
Aug 2019

is legal so therefore they should abide by it.

What should happen to persons who are here already, undocumented with no history of criminal activity?

They should be able to apply by a pathway to citizenship. They are not animals they just want a better life.

What would happen if we were faced under the same circumstances and say for instance we want to emigrate to Canada would Canadian officials just let us return if we did not have history of criminal activity. There are procedures to acquire citizenship.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
3. That is exactly my opinion
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:36 PM
Aug 2019

I wonder why this is so controversial? I know we can’t get the laws passed because of the racists GOP but I don’t understand why pathway is so controversial to the nation.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
8. Absolutely
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:49 PM
Aug 2019

We should *want* people to come out "from the shadows" and become full citizens of this once and future great country.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
6. Agree. People coming to POE and seeking asylum should get a hearing as required
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:29 PM
Aug 2019

by our current laws. People already here, for 2 or more years, employed, and paying taxes should have a path to citizenship.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
2. First step is levy huge fines on those
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:32 PM
Aug 2019

who hire people not authorized to work here. Until that step is taken there will always be jobs for those not authorized to work here. People will continue to risk their lives to get here and once here will be at risk of being victimized to keep a job.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
4. Yes, this is what will have the biggest effect on the issue.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:57 PM
Aug 2019

It would however also make anyone undocumented unable to be employed.

Once people and their families become homeless and destitute, they would likely either turn to crime or self deport back to their place of origin.

Wouldn't think that is something that most progressives would support.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
5. I'm all for having a way for them to
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:07 PM
Aug 2019

legally work here. Of course, then asshats like the guy in Mississippi would have to actually pay them.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. Sort of light on specifics but some broad principles:
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:47 PM
Aug 2019

1. They should be humanely processed and a determination regarding granting entry, asylum, etc. should be made in the least amount of time possible under the most humane conditions (i.e. no family separations, decent facilities).
2. They should be encouraged/offered a path to citizenship (touting the benefits of citizenship) within a reasonable timeframe (much less than 10 years) and they should have the means to live and function in society- access to basic needs, governmental assistance, etc.

The *only* people whom I believe should be deported (and as soon as possible) IMHO should be people whom have committed violent offenses, are part of criminal gangs and organizations (i.e. human traffickers, MS-13).

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