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Trump speech in PA--he has no idea what time it is (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 OP
but, Biden making a gaffe is big news? NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #1
I know, right? But logic has NOTHING to do with this race. theophilus Aug 2019 #3
I hope it's not NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #4
She's an early favorite for winning twitter today. lapucelle Aug 2019 #2
Why does the press Ohiogal Aug 2019 #5
Could be the original schedule was for him to arrive ealier and DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #6
There are/were several plant closures in that area modrepub Aug 2019 #10
Live updates from the Beaver County Times reporter DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #7
He came to PA to take credit for a plant that has been in the works for 7 years nt doc03 Aug 2019 #8
Yep, before plant construction was put on hold, Mc Mike Aug 2019 #9
Local news story on Trump visit DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #11
I'd love to know who were the stewards on the site. Good follow up question for reporters. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #12
They were being paid DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #13
I hope they get time and a half. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #14
The unions members went, listened politely, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #15
Glad it doesn't bother you. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #16

Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
5. Why does the press
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:04 PM
Aug 2019

continue to cover this moron as if he knows what he is talking about on any given subject? Why do they even take him seriously, he is an embarrassing clown! So infuriating!

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
6. Could be the original schedule was for him to arrive ealier and
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:08 PM
Aug 2019

speechify.

I wonder if Trump will talk about the 19 month early closure of the Bruce Mansfield coal fired electricity plant nearby? The Shell ethane cracker plant is supposed to employ 500 people when it's fully operational. The layoffs at the coal-fired plant are about 250. On top of that the Shippingsport nuclear plant is scheduled to shut down next year or in 2021. Overall, it's a net loss of jobs. But who's counting?

Excerpt from earlier Beaver County Times story re coal-fired and nuclear plants:

Beaver County could see a sizable economic hit with the closure of both plants. FirstEnergy is one of the county’s largest taxpayers with millions in assessed property. It puts hundreds of high-paid union employees at risk, too. Last year, FirstEnergy Solutions employed about 250 workers at the Bruce Mansfield plant alone.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
10. There are/were several plant closures in that area
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:56 PM
Aug 2019

Projected job losses for plants planning to close:

Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Plant in Shippingport (several hundred jobs plus thousands who show up to do a fuel replacement cycles)
Bruce Mansfield Unit 3 coal fired power plant (several hundred employees)

Losses from plants already closed (property that Shell reused)

AES Beaver Valley coal-fired power plant (several hundred)
Horsehead Monaco Smelter (about 500)

One door closes and one door opens. The shell plant probably would not absorb all of these job losses; I'm not including construction jobs. I would expect the Shell plant to hire people with different skill sets than were employed at the four plants I listed.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
9. Yep, before plant construction was put on hold,
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 05:37 PM
Aug 2019

the underground power chases for it were run during the Obama Admin.

It's been ongoing since 2012, one of the biggest tax incentives in PA history.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
12. I'd love to know who were the stewards on the site. Good follow up question for reporters.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 05:09 AM
Aug 2019

All those tough construction workers standing there, waiting to get out.

That bs is the locals' fault.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
13. They were being paid
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:04 AM
Aug 2019

their normal wages. I think it's funny they were ready to bolt when the clock hit end-of-shift time. I'm betting they got OT for the extra time they had to spend waiting while Trump's motorcade left town, too.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
14. I hope they get time and a half.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Aug 2019

Typical for tRump, he has to rent a crowd. The memo the tradespeople got demanded there be no resistance to him. Free speech is only for nazis, gorka, spencer, anglin.

I notice from the memo that there was no end time listed for the event, but obviously they told the employees it was regular end of shift. Then shitler stuck around for hours afterward, getting his butt kissed by ownership and management, I guess.

He had zero to do with the cracker plant, though some state repugs had been involved in shoveling out the tax investments. When this thing was being proposed, planned, he was busy tweeting about birth certificates, cheating on wifey, stealing tRump u students' money, bankrupting casinos, you know, business leadership stuff.

He stuck around to stick it in labor's ass.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
16. Glad it doesn't bother you.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:21 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Obviously, the lack of smiles on all the faces of those workers -- who waited from noon or 3 to after 5, in full osha gear, jammed in for a photo op campaign ad (for shitler to get credit for something he had nothing to do with), not allowed to express any disagreement, having to leave their free speech rights at the door unlike shitler's nazi buddies, with the threat of loss of overtime pay or loss of job if they didn't attend and 'show no resistance' -- shows that they weren't too happy with the situation, though you don't find it a big deal.

They had to stick around, while the jagoff who didn't know it was 2:41 pm, and thought it was 11:00 am, dawdled around for hours to get his ass kissed some more by management and the oil company ownership. The event sucked bigly, but was long over while they were stuck there all facing the exit, not allowed to leave, for shitler's security purposes.

I wasn't on that job, but a lot of my union brothers and sisters were, and a lot of other union tradespeople who I've worked with. I don't find it easy to brush off that open 'stick it in our ass' move by Rump, but ymmv, as some wise PA dem once told me.

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