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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis was one of the Articles of impeachment used to impeach Andrew Johnson, sound familiar?
ARTICLE 10.That said Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, unmindful of the high duties of his high office and the dignity and proprieties thereof, and of the harmony and courtesies which ought to exist and be maintained between the executive and legislative branches of the Government of the United States, designing and intending to set aside the rightful authorities and powers of Congress, did attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States, and the several branches thereof, to impair and destroy the regard and respect of all the good people of the United States for the Congress and the legislative power thereof, which all officers of the government ought inviolably to preserve and maintain, and to excite the odium and resentment of all good people of the United States against Congress and the laws by it duly and constitutionally enacted; and in pursuance of his said design and intent, openly and publicly and before divers assemblages of citizens of the United States, convened in divers parts thereof, to meet and receive said Andrew Johnson as the Chief Magistrate of the United States, did, on the eighteenth day of August, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-six, and on divers other days and times, as well before as afterwards, make and declare, with a loud voice, certain intemperate, inflammatory and scandalous harangues, and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces, as well against Congress as the laws of the United States duly enacted thereby, amid the cries, jeers and laughter of the multitudes then assembled in hearing, which are set forth in the several specifications hereinafter written, in substance and effect, that it to say:
elleng
(130,895 posts)and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces'
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ex Lurker
(3,813 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...After Lincoln's assassination in April of 1865, President Andrew Johnson alienated Congress with his Reconstruction policy. He supported white supremacy in the South and favored pro-Union Southern political leaders who had aided the Confederacy once war had been declared.
Southerners, with Johnson's support, attempted to restore slavery in substance if not in name. In 1866, Congress and President Johnson battled for control of Reconstruction. The Congress won. Northern voters gave a smashing victory -- more than two-thirds of the seats in Congress -- to the Radical Republicans in the 1866 congressional election, enabling Congress to control Reconstruction and override any vetoes that Johnson might impose."
https://www.thirteen.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_reconstruct.html
"The federal government adopted a policy of providing arable land to former black slaves during the last stages of the American Civil War in 1865. They were freed as a result of the advance of the Union armies into the territory previously controlled by the Confederacy, particularly after Major General William Tecumseh Shermans March to the Sea. General Shermans Special Field Orders, No. 15, issued on January 16, 1865, provided for the land, while some of its beneficiaries also received mules from the army for plowing. The policy became known as forty acres and a mule.
The Special Field Orders issued by Sherman were never intended to represent an official policy of the U.S. government with regard to all former slaves. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded President Lincoln after the assassination, revoked Shermans orders and returned the land to its previous white owners. Because of this, the phrase forty acres and a mule has come to represent the failure of Reconstruction policies in restoring to African Americans the fruits of their labor."
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/the-south-after-reconstruction/
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I love the ending paragraph ... this is classic stuff:
'intemperate, inflammatory, and scandalous harangues (...) and bitter menaces'
Man I love that sh*t ...
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)They are actually different words. But these days are used fairly synonymously
divers: several; various; sundry
diverse: of a different kind, form, character, etc.; unlike
of various kinds or forms; multiform.
I'm a vocabulary junkie.
rwsanders
(2,598 posts)book series by Stephen R. Donaldson. He must have waited with great patience to drop this one, but I can't find it even in discussions of his works. It was an archaic word meaning archaic. Any ideas?
I guess it is good we have the internet now, many modern "dictionaries" have dropped the old words so they can keep up with the newest slang. Reading Poe, Hawthorne, or Mehlville would be impossible with one of those. I still use my father's dictionary from 1958. It has only failed me once.
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)hoary, superannuated, antediluvian
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Of the three on your list, that strikes me as the least used. But that's a subjective opinion based on my reading tastes.
rwsanders
(2,598 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)has a bit of a bite to it
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I diplomatically hid my glee when the department head ripped him a new one for being both wrong and a dick.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He probably hasnt done a single thing differently than what dictators have done throughout history.
Which is why the media, with few exceptions, should stop acting like hes normal. They ought to know better. At least thats what youd think. Or maybe theyre just vying to be the official Trump media.
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)it is certainly something straight from the deepest & darkest pit of Hell
lunatica
(53,410 posts)My point is the repeated methods that dictators use to gain and maintain power. They all do the same things. And yeah, its like the deepest, darkest pit of hell.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)My bet he would be hard pressed to name Lincolns successor. If he did know the VPs name he would make shit up to suit his mood in the moment.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im talking about tyrant methodology. And I didnt say he read history. I was hoping the media would read history.
Ponietz
(2,966 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)malaise
(268,978 posts)and then there are all those other criminal acts
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)gordianot
(15,237 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)...often referring to members as "the gentleman on the other side" or the lady in opposition. Not doing so often results in reprimand or sanction.
Trump can call them a "disgrace" or worse. How is that allowed?
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)They don't use a period, just commas.
Nice precedent although Johnson got off, right?
Today's act against our congress fits right into this piece.
LTG
(216 posts)During the 90s I had occasion to review an appellate document from the courts of Australia. It had more commas, colons and semi-colons than I had ever seen. 11 inches of a single, legalese and complex sentence. Had to diagram parts of it to follow precisely what it was saying.
former9thward
(32,000 posts)lapucelle
(18,252 posts)"did...make and declare, with a loud voice certain intemperate, inflammatory, and scandalous harangues, and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces, as well against Congress as the laws of the United States duly enacted thereby, amid the cries, jeers and laughter of the multitudes then assembled in hearing."
However, the impeachment managers neglected to bring this article to a vote in the Senate when it became clear that it had no support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_Around_the_Circle#cite_note-10