In the strange, strange, world of the anti-conspiracy theorists:

[Girard442]

* The Reichstag caught fire because of oily rags in the boiler room.

* The Enron Corporation was an outstanding company based on brilliant concepts but had a run of really bad luck.

* The Watergate burglars were just some freelancing overzealous little people.

* The Manhattan Project was just a bunch of science nerds meeting in the desert. Odd that they came up with a devastating weapon.

* The 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor was just a training mission that went wrong because of bad navigation.

* There is no such thing as insider trading -- people only say that because they're jealous of other's successes.

* Iran Contra was just a handful of patriots who wanted to do the right thing.

* Klebold and Harris (the Columbine shooters) were just a couple of random kids who woke up in a really bad mood and just happened to be armed to the teeth.

* The German V-2 missile was just an artillery shell, only bigger. A secret rocket project? C'mon!

* Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide because he was despondent that a whole big bunch of powerful people wanted him dead.

[HeartlandProgressive]

1. anti-conspiracy theories!

very amusing term

[MarcA]

10. And a very truthful one. n/t

[FiveGoodMen]

2. !

[Downtown Hound]

3. So what do you think Klebold and Harris actually were?

Are you one of those people who thinks they were government mind-controlled assassins?

And do you think that is true of every mass shooter?

[Solomon]

8. Well for one thing, the fact that they acted

together makes it a conspiracy ipso facto. No need to bring Area 51 and mind control in it.

Makes me mad the way people fling around the word "conspiracy" as a grassy knoll thingy when the government locks up masses of people everyday, particularly black folk, by prosecuting conspiracy charges.

[Downtown Hound]

15. Well, yes, but somehow I have a hunch that the OP was alluding to something a little more than

"they were 2 guys with a plan."

Still waiting for his answer.

[mr_lebowski]

29. OP doesn't say they had a plan ...

I think that's the point.

[Downtown Hound]

30. So what is he saying?

OP can feel free to explain anytime.

[Downtown Hound]

4. Oh and, never once, in anything I have ever read about WW2, have I heard the V-2 rocket

described as "just an artillery shell." And I'm still not sure how that qualifies as a conspiracy.

If you want to be taken seriously when you tout conspiracy theories, you need to do much better in explaining them.

[W_HAMILTON]

5. The "strange, strange world of the anti-conspiracy theorists" is called reality.

Our view of the world is determined by evidence -- not speculative conjecture.

If evidence comes forward that one of your conspiracy theories is actually true, then it will be accepted as true and no longer a conspiracy theory.

[MarcA]

11. So your reality accepts non conspiracy before the evidence is presented. n/t

[W_HAMILTON]

19. Pretty much -- as it should be, in my opinion.

[True Dough]

6. But wait!

If I'm an anti-anti-conspiracy theorist, what does that make me?

[MarcA]

12. It makes you not serious. n/t

[True Dough]

13. I'll own that!

"Not serious" would account for about 70% of my posts!

[Girard442]

7. The British government tried to suppress knowledge of a weapon against which there was no defense.

They announced that the mysterious detonations were cased by exploding gas mains, which caused the Brits to dub the V-2 rockets, "flying gas mains."

Oops, that was supposed to be a reply to #4.

[MarcA]

9. Conspiracy Theorist a term used on those whose conclusions differ

from the accepted norms and whose questions make those norms
unsustainable, and to lump on and dump them in with the charlatans
and snake oil salesmen. Works very well on unquestioning little people
because some things don't have easy answers. An accepted term by
most of the "liberal" establishment and intelligentsia since at least
that day in November.

[John Fante]

16. "whose questions make those norms unsustainable"

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Laughable.

[maxsolomon]

14. I need to go to the hospital

I think my eye-rolling has caused permanent damage.








What a load of claptrap.

[John Fante]

17. Columbine is a conspiracy theory now too? Since when?

The moon landings were real, Oswald acted alone, and 9/11 was the work of Al-Qaeda, not the US government. Step into reality people.

[Downtown Hound]

18. Oh, there's a whole community of people that claim they were brainwashed, CIA assassins.

Not just that, but they think that every mass shooter is. It's either an attempt to create fear in the population or an attempt to pass gun control laws to take guns away from real Americans so they can put us all in concentration camps. Depends on who you ask.

[Crunchy Frog]

20. 9/11 was just some really BAD piloting.

[Downtown Hound]

21. Said no one ever. n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

22. In that case it was a pretty elaborate conspiracy.

[librechik]

23. except for Bush

who claimed that was his first thought on 9/11

[John Fante]

26. What was his first thought? That it was bad piloting?

[librechik]

32. yeah, he said he thought "That's one terrible pilot"

when he saw on TV the plane fly into the building. Which in itself is a fishy statement. Nobody broadcast the first hit until the next day it is said.

Bush's quote is on google, quoting the guardian UK. For some reason I can't cut and paste.

[Midnight Writer]

33. Yes. He said he "saw" the first plane hit the Tower and thought it was a bad pilot.

[John Fante]

34. It's not as if the attacks were covered up to look like an accident

so I don't see what's fishy about the statement. Many (myself included) hoped that the first plane was just an accident. It was the second plane that left no doubt that we were under attack. You can see that reaction from GWB in the infamous "The Pet Goat" video.

[Downtown Hound]

28. His favorite book is, "The Very Hungry Caterpillar."

So, well, uh...yeah.

[SidDithers]

24. Oh FFS...

But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. - Carl Sagan

You just posted a whole pile of Bozo the Clown.

Sid

[Turbineguy]

25. You did not mention

chemtrails.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

27. Strawman much?

Note: Sometimes conspiracy theories do get proven true.

However, the burden of proof on such theories is always on the people seeking to prove them true.

[mr_lebowski]

31. Here's one: Hani Hanjour was just a random schmo who took some Cessna lessons ...

And then proceeded to pilot a highly sophisticated 757 Jumbo Jet down from circling above at 10,000 feet PERFECTLY into the side of the Pentagon at like 10 feet off the ground, an action that dozens of professional pilots said they'd hard pressed to pull off more perfectly themselves.

[John Fante]

35. What do you make of the dozens of people (driving on the I-395) who clearly saw a commercial

jet hit the Pentagon? Paid actors?

[mr_lebowski]

36. You apparently didn't read carefully ...

I'll give you another chance.

[MicaelS]

37. The Paranoid Style in American Politics.

Download it and read it. Still applies today.

America has been a nation of CT Kooks for a long time. Though most of the time it has been the RW.