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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:59 AM Aug 2019

(Takes deep breath.) Okay, any idea what in the hell the Madman possibly is claiming here?






Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 4m4 minutes ago

Wow, Report Just Out! Google manipulated from 2.6 million to 16 million votes for Hillary Clinton in 2016 Election! This was put out by a Clinton supporter, not a Trump Supporter! Google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought! @JudicialWatch

8:52 AM - 19 Aug 2019


"2.6 million to 16 million votes" were "manipulated" by Google?

What the fuck is the guy talking about?

Other than the fact that he's tagging his BFF Tom "My Shirts Aren't Properly" Fitton, so we know it's crazy bullshit to start with.

But seriously.....
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(Takes deep breath.) Okay, any idea what in the hell the Madman possibly is claiming here? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 OP
If Google is that good at manipulating votes and they were working for Clinton, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #1
He is a hemorrhoid! Dave in VA Aug 2019 #6
Trump is campaigning hard for 2016 world wide wally Aug 2019 #2
It i adjust the tin foil just right Midnightwalk Aug 2019 #3
Or maybe he's laying the groundwork to becoming prez for life lunatica Aug 2019 #13
I'm guessing James O'Keefe's bullshit doc drop blogslut Aug 2019 #4
Pre-loading the 2020 "I was robbed!" defense... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #5
It was just on Fox: demmiblue Aug 2019 #7
THIS is happening. nolabear Aug 2019 #8
Ah the Lady just nailed his sorry ass to the Barn Door Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #11
Apparently, it is about this: demmiblue Aug 2019 #14
"If I lose, it's because of Google!!! Very, very UNFAIR!!!!" dalton99a Aug 2019 #9
Don't you get it malaise Aug 2019 #10
Trump seems to be signaling Judicial Watch to do something -- it's not their report, but one from... demmiblue Aug 2019 #12
Well, at least we got Trump talking about Epstein. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #16
But seriously - What does Google have to do with voting? LeftinOH Aug 2019 #15
He's always this way whenever he's been abducted by space aliens struggle4progress Aug 2019 #17
He's dumb enough to believe it. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #18
Has anyone else heard that Donny's friend Epstein has a child-sex-slave business in the basement struggle4progress Aug 2019 #19
Google obviously runs all state elections HAB911 Aug 2019 #20
he babbles out of jealousy. jealous of the fact that a woman handed him his ass. nt Javaman Aug 2019 #21
This is weirder than wanting to buy Greenland. No? Glimmer of Hope Aug 2019 #22
From Hillary Clinton Gothmog Aug 2019 #23
According to a Clinton tweet - Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #24

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
1. If Google is that good at manipulating votes and they were working for Clinton,
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:03 PM
Aug 2019

why didn't they do their manipulating in states that could have won the electoral college instead of throwing them away in California? Put your phone down, Spanky, and get off the toilet and go back to the golf course. If you sit there all morning you'll get hemorrhoids.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
3. It i adjust the tin foil just right
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019

I think I can hear the signal.

Something damaging about russian interference is going to come out. Maybe it about mcconnel’s interference.

Deflects from that.

It’s also fodder for the let’s censor the internet discussion.

Facts really don’t matter.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
4. I'm guessing James O'Keefe's bullshit doc drop
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:11 PM
Aug 2019

OR

That rando psychologist, Robert Epstein who placed malware ads on his site and got all pissed off at Google for serving Warning notices about it. He's a "Google Expert" now, dontcha know

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Ah the Lady just nailed his sorry ass to the Barn Door
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:18 PM
Aug 2019

and it was a 24 hour distraction once again.

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
14. Apparently, it is about this:
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:07 PM
Aug 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212391535#post12

Seems he has been going after Google for quite some time:

In 2012, Epstein publicly disputed with Google Search over a security warning placed on links to his website.[10] His website, which features mental health screening tests, was blocked for serving malware that could infect visitors to the site. Epstein emailed "Larry Page, Google's chief executive; David Drummond, Google's legal counsel; Epstein's congressman; and journalists from The New York Times, The Washington Post, Wired, and Newsweek."[10] In it, Epstein threatened legal action if the warning concerning his website was not removed, and denied that any problems with his website existed.[10] Several weeks later, Epstein admitted his website had been hacked, but criticized Google for tarnishing his name and not helping him find the infection.[11] Epstein has since continued to criticize Google, writing in TIME magazine that Google had "a fundamentally deceptive business model".[12][13] Epstein also has said that Google could rig the 2016 US presidential election and that search engine manipulation was "a serious threat to the democratic system of government".[14] According to Epstein, "Perhaps the most effective way to wield political influence in today's high-tech world is to donate money to a candidate and then to use technology to make sure he or she wins. The technology guarantees the win, and the donation guarantees allegiance, which Google has certainly tapped in recent years with the Obama administration."[14]

Throughout 2016, Epstein had discussed the possibility of Google search algorithm manipulation in favor of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.[15][16] He estimated in a September article that as many as three million votes in the upcoming election could be shifted as a result.[17] In 2017, former head of Google Search Amit Singhal directly disputed this, claiming that "Google has never ever re-ranked search results on any topic (including elections) to manipulate user sentiment."[18]

In a 2017 article, Epstein criticized efforts by companies such as Google and Facebook to suppress fake news through algorithms, noting "the dangers in allowing big technology companies to decide which news stories are legitimate".[19]

Other journalists and researchers have expressed concerns similar to Epstein's. Safiya Noble cited Epstein's research about search engine bias in her 2018 book Algorithms of Oppression,[20] although she has expressed doubt that search engines ought to counter-balance the content of large, well-resourced and highly trained newsrooms with what she called "disinformation sites" and "propaganda outlets".[21] Ramesh Srinivasan, a professor of information studies at UCLA focusing on "the relationships between technology and politics", agreed with Epstein that "the larger issue" of how search engines can shape users' views is "extremely important", but questioned how many undecided voters are using Google to them help decide who to vote for.[21]

The Los Angeles Times reported in March 2019 that Epstein's criticism of Google had been "warmly embraced" by some conservatives, a phenomenon that Epstein said "is driving me crazy".[21]

In July 2019, Epstein presented his research to the Senate Judiciary Committee, claiming that Google could manipulate "upwards of 15 million votes" in 2020 and recommending that Google's search index be made public.[22][23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Epstein

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
12. Trump seems to be signaling Judicial Watch to do something -- it's not their report, but one from...
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:00 PM
Aug 2019
Trump seems to be signaling Judicial Watch to do something -- it's not their report, but one from Robert Epstein. His June testimony to the Senate is here: https://judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/

A profile of him by the LAT, with some major red flags about his conclusions. The "manipulation" in question is that Google search is serving people stories from reputable news outlets rather than Breitbart. https://latimes.com/politics/la-na


LeftinOH

(5,354 posts)
15. But seriously - What does Google have to do with voting?
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
Aug 2019

Do people vote for President via Google? So confused.....

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. He's dumb enough to believe it.
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:24 PM
Aug 2019

So are his voters.

Just keep catapulting propaganda at them: everyone else is corrupt, only I have your back, "leftists" are terrorists, Liberals hate Jews, etc.

Repetition and constant messaging.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
19. Has anyone else heard that Donny's friend Epstein has a child-sex-slave business in the basement
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:25 PM
Aug 2019

of Fox Studios?

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