Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:41 PM Aug 2019

Why are only black neighborhoods being contaminated with lead in their water??

Detroit and now in New Jersey?? WHAT THE HELL??? and I hate to wish this horrible situation on ANY town, but why IS IT ALWAYS IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS???
.

12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why are only black neighborhoods being contaminated with lead in their water?? (Original Post) a kennedy Aug 2019 OP
Things that makes one go 'hmmmmmm'. marble falls Aug 2019 #1
There is certainly systemic racism in which mrs_p Aug 2019 #2
Probably the oldest neighborhoods. demosincebirth Aug 2019 #3
Also, under serviced and updated, infrastructure. N/t jaysunb Aug 2019 #7
Apparently widespread. moondust Aug 2019 #4
Poor communities always get shortshrift in procon Aug 2019 #5
Typically it would be the oldest part of a city, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #6
That makes sense. OnDoutside Aug 2019 #8
It's all about decaying infrastructure and where the money goes & does not go. It's about poverty... Hekate Aug 2019 #9
They're not. xmas74 Aug 2019 #10
Chicago too. nt live love laugh Aug 2019 #11
Red Lining JustAnotherGen Aug 2019 #12

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
2. There is certainly systemic racism in which
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:55 PM
Aug 2019

this is a part. However, lack of infrastructural support has also contributed significantly. Both of my daughter’s schools in Ithaca and Portland (predominately white and middle class) have had lead contamination in the water.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
4. Apparently widespread.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:05 AM
Aug 2019

I don't know if this 2016 story has been corroborated. I don't recall ever seeing it reported on TV news.

A Reuters examination of lead testing results across the country found almost 3,000 areas with poisoning rates far higher than in the tainted Michigan city. Yet many of these lead hotspots are receiving little attention or funding.

The thousands of U.S. locales where lead poisoning is worse than in Flint

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Poor communities always get shortshrift in
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:19 AM
Aug 2019

most municipal budget planning. The symptoms that produce lead in a public water source is just one more sign of a decaying society.

Be it black, white or anything else, the poorest neighborhoods always get far less of any public funding than more affluent communities. This is an historical fact even in cities that try to be fair and responsive.

They poor are seen to be powerless, voiceless and easily distracted so it's easy to allocate the least public services, the fewest infrastructure improvements, the lowest priorities in health and safety. OTOH, they do get lots of police scrutiny and creative methods that transfers their limited wealth to city coffers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
6. Typically it would be the oldest part of a city,
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:40 AM
Aug 2019

which are probably also the most densely populated and lower-income. In my city lead pipes were phased out in 1927, which might be typical in many cities, but some water pipes are much older than that. Unless the city or the homeowner (for the pipes from the street) has replaced the pipes the lead is still there. So anyone who lives in an older part of their city is more likely to have lead pipes, either the water mains or the pipes leading to their house. In poorer neighborhoods it's less probable that old pipes leading to or within a house have ever been replaced.

I'm pretty sure the pipes from the street to my house are the original ones because my house was built before 1900. The city tests for lead periodically so I'm not too worried, but we've been told that to reduce the likelihood of getting any lead in the drinking water we should use cold water for cooking (not hot water from the tap), and if the water hasn't been used for a long time, run the tap for awhile before using any water.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
9. It's all about decaying infrastructure and where the money goes & does not go. It's about poverty...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 03:01 AM
Aug 2019

It's about poor people of any color finding their voices, finding leaders, learning how to demand and attend public meetings.

It's just really hard to do this when you and your children are sick as well as disempowered.

And yes, as Flint proved, there is powerful racism involved as well.

Follow the money.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
10. They're not.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 04:17 AM
Aug 2019

It's poor communities. I'm in Missouri and we have areas that are pretty nasty. One of the worst in the state is very poor and mostly white. Flint received so much attention because of its size and the switch in its water source made it worse. Some of these rural communities have dealt with it for decades.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
12. Red Lining
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:03 AM
Aug 2019

This problem started in the 1930's, and amplified by white flight in post WW II America.

Then in 1976 Reagan spewed his Welfare Queen bullshit, and the 1994 Contract on Black American Women and there you have it.

It's simple.

Legally herd people together, strangle resources they pay for (taxes) which kills infrastructure renewal in their neighborhoods and there you have it.

Us is pissed. Vote like your life depends upon it - and those of your allies.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why are only black neighb...