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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:17 AM Aug 2019

Sure, Trump is an idiot, but do you get the sense that someone else is running the country?

My vote, very clearly, is for Vladimir Putin. The seemingly insane things that Trump is doing work well in Russia, where the media is in that madman's control and that there is not much opportunity for widespread exposure. Things are so surreal now that this can't just be chalked up to sheer idiocy. It's almost if Russia is "advising" Trump on these things that seem so mad, not just for big issues but also on day-to-day responses to things, since these have worked for decades in Russia.

While our media is not the greatest, there is undoubtedly far more freedom here than in Russia. If there was really a free press in Russia, I am sure that the everyday Russian would think that Putin is as mad as a hatter as our beloved leader.

If so, it's proof positive that both Trump and Putin aren't very bright dudes. Trump's in way over his head, and Putin is just a vicious fiend who is fine with causing people to be pushed out windows, shot by snipers, and poisoned with radioactive substances.

Luckily, things seem to be unraveling for Putin as well as our Dear Leader.

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Sure, Trump is an idiot, but do you get the sense that someone else is running the country? (Original Post) DonaldsRump Aug 2019 OP
Our true leaders are Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade. Kablooie Aug 2019 #1
exactly Demovictory9 Aug 2019 #7
Nazi Stephen Miller, Sean insanity, javanka, Lou dobbs, lindsey brown nose graham Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #2
Do you really think any American like these Fox folks would be behind this surreal insanity? DonaldsRump Aug 2019 #3
foriegn policy - Putin lapfog_1 Aug 2019 #4
The oligarchs, foreign and domestic. CentralMass Aug 2019 #5
Alike in France IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #9
I don't know. This is different from the Bush-Cheney days Recursion Aug 2019 #6
Halliburton and JBS were behind a lot of this administration policies. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #10
Every so often, I have to quote Douglas Adams on distracting presidents muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #8
Bill Barr, esq. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #11

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
1. Our true leaders are Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:24 AM
Aug 2019

Nearly every idea Trump has had came from the Fox and Friends show.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
3. Do you really think any American like these Fox folks would be behind this surreal insanity?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:30 AM
Aug 2019

It finally dawned on me that Dear Leader is taking all his instructions from someone who does not really understand the US. That has to be Putin.

Fox News is a tool for, rather than the architect of, this madness, IMHO.

IdealsAndReal42

(89 posts)
9. Alike in France
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:34 AM
Aug 2019

Where the current President is highly tied to the oligarchy. His 2017 campaign funding by corporations still raises questions.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. I don't know. This is different from the Bush-Cheney days
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:36 AM
Aug 2019

With Shrub, yeah: I always got the sense that a cabal lead by Dick Cheney was actually running things.

Today? I don't know. This really just seems like pure random chaos.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
8. Every so often, I have to quote Douglas Adams on distracting presidents
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:24 AM
Aug 2019

I first did it about Bush in 2005; I've said it about 5 times from 2016 to 2018:

The president's job - and if someone sufficiently vain and stupid is picked he won't realise this- is not to wield power, but to draw attention away from it. Zaphod Beeblebrox, the only man in history to have made presidential telecasts from the bath, from Eccentrica Gallumbits bedroom, from the maximum-security wing of the Betelgeuse State Prison, or from where ever else he happened to be at the time, was supremely good at this job.
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http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/THHGTTG/THHGTTGradio9.htm

The major problem - one of the major problems - for there are several - one of the many major problems with governing people is that of who you get to do it. Or, rather, of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarise: it is a well-known and much lamented fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarise the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should, on no account, be allowed to do the job. To summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem. And so this is the situation we find. A succession of Galactic Presidents who so much enjoy the fun and palaver of being in power that they never really notice that they’re not. And somewhere in the shadows behind them, who? Who can possibly rule if no one who wants to, can be allowed to?

http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/THHGTTG/THHGTTGradio12.htm

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
11. Bill Barr, esq.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:52 AM
Aug 2019
Bill Barr: The "Cover-Up General"

"At the center of the criticism is the chief artic­ulator of Bush's imperial presidency," we reported in 1992, "the man who wrote the legal rationale for the Gulf War, the Panama invasion, and the officially sanctioned kidnapping of foreign nationals abroad"

by FRANK SNEPP
The Village Voice, APRIL 18, 2019



The Village Voice, October 27, 1992

“Attorney General William Barr is the Best Reason to Vote for Clinton”

Excerpt....

SON OF THE CIA

It was 21 years ago, in 1971, that I first encountered William Barr. Both of us were working for the CIA at the time, he as a novice China analyst, I as a member of the agency’s Vietnam task force. Jovial and un­assuming, he took his cues easily from an overly politicized office chief. It was a to­ken of things to come.

Three years before, we had brushed shoulders unknowingly on Columbia Uni­versity’s roiling campus. Both of us were on the other side of the barricades as antiwar demonstrations there blasted our genera­tion into a decade of rage. Barr, a conserva­tive student spokesman, preached tough­ness to the university administration, of which his father, then dean of the engineer­ing faculty, was a leading light. Years later, this same damn-the-torpedoes zeal would commend Barr to his ultimate father figure, George Bush. When Cuban refugees penned up at an Alabama prison rioted and took hostages in the summer of 1991, depu­ty attorney general Barr ordered the place stormed. Soon afterward, Bush tapped him for the attorney general slot itself.

Barr first met Bush in the CIA. In 1976, having shifted to the agency’s legislative office, he helped write the pap sheets that director Bush used to fend off the Pike and Church committees, the first real embodiments of Congressional oversight of the CIA. Intimates say the experience was for­mative for Barr, turning him into an impla­cable enemy of congressional intrusions on executive prerogative.

“The most radical period I had probably was when I was sort of a moderate Republi­can,” he later acknowledged. Sure enough, Barr stayed safe within conservative clutch­es even after leaving the agency in 1977. Armed with a night-school law diploma, he asked for — and got — Bush’s backing for a clerkship appointment to Malcolm Wilkey of the Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Years later, as attorney general, Barr would name Wilkey to investigate the House Banking scandal. Wilkey repayed the favor with a wrenchingly partisan in­quiry. Feeding the press overheated charges of wrongdoing, he scored points off the Democratic Congress just as the adminis­tration itself was being pilloried for its failed economics.

Source...

https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/04/18/attorney-general-william-barr-is-the-best-reason-to-vote-for-clinton/

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