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I am one of the 79% of Jews who vote Democratic (Original Post) Cary Aug 2019 OP
Kick mcar Aug 2019 #1
K&R Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #2
Yup, but doesn't matter. Behind the Aegis Aug 2019 #3
'That train's never late' crazytown Aug 2019 #4
Thanks! Behind the Aegis Aug 2019 #20
As well you should be. Scarsdale Aug 2019 #22
"who told him this would be a winning strategy"? llashram Aug 2019 #24
It would have been a Scarsdale Aug 2019 #25
I think it was Wolff's book mercuryblues Aug 2019 #26
Stephen Miller is behind this. yardwork Aug 2019 #30
k&r Soph0571 Aug 2019 #5
RIGHTEOUS! ffr Aug 2019 #6
I am also one of the 79% of Jews who vote Democratic Gothmog Aug 2019 #7
My Jewish doctor is too. Scarsdale Aug 2019 #23
Jewish lawyers and Jewish doctors are in alignment Gothmog Aug 2019 #29
Yes we are,often. nt PCIntern Aug 2019 #33
Fun fact: Cheeto did slightly better than Robmey with all major groups sandensea Aug 2019 #8
except for Mossfern Aug 2019 #9
Sad but true. sandensea Aug 2019 #10
still mourning Rabin Mossfern Aug 2019 #13
+1 sandensea Aug 2019 #17
The Jewish people have a very memorable history with Russia IronLionZion Aug 2019 #11
+1 sandensea Aug 2019 #15
He's already using that language by claiming Jewish Dems are disloyal IronLionZion Aug 2019 #16
Well put. sandensea Aug 2019 #18
kick demigoddess Aug 2019 #12
K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #14
"He hopes that by dividing America and frightening America he will win." Cary Aug 2019 #19
Trump thinks Jewish people owe him and should be grateful to him over the Embassy move to Jerusalem JI7 Aug 2019 #21
This. stevil Aug 2019 #27
Thanks. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #28
K&R sheshe2 Aug 2019 #31
I love this. apnu Aug 2019 #32
I'm over the wedge Cary Aug 2019 #35
K&R geardaddy Aug 2019 #34

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
3. Yup, but doesn't matter.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 04:44 PM
Aug 2019

Our loyalty is ALWAYS going to be questioned and challenged. History isn't repeating...it never fucking stopped!

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. 'That train's never late'
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 04:55 PM
Aug 2019
Then they went to, “I’m American. Fuck all these illegal aliens.” Then I started listening. Cos I know niggers and Jews is next. It’s like, any day now! That train’s never late!

https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2018/01/19/chris-rock-never-scared-2004-full-transcript/

Sorry to hear you down / fed up Behind the Aegis. I don't have the words.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
20. Thanks!
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:32 AM
Aug 2019

That is one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite comedians.

I am really frustrated and angry with some of the things I am seeing. It is bad enough the leader of the Free World is pushing an ancient myth about Jews, then to have salt thrown in our wounds by people who are supposed to be supportive; just pisses me off.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
22. As well you should be.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 07:14 AM
Aug 2019

The battle has already been fought, so we thought. Now a know-nothing orange Russian ass-et is stoking the fire again. Who told him this would be a winning strategy? We have to get ADULTS back into the WH and the government before it is too late. The people have been fooled for too long by the gop. Where are the real patriots in that party? So far, they all meekly follow Agent Orange and Moscow Mitch like mindless puppets. We have to take this country back to SANITY before it is too late.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
24. "who told him this would be a winning strategy"?
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:30 AM
Aug 2019

Stephen Miller? Maybe? Jared Kushner? Ivanka? Maybe? Hell, there are so many haters in this administration, hard to know.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
25. It would have been a
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:17 AM
Aug 2019

tremendous help if tRump had a BRAIN. He just takes "advice" from any air-head who is speaking at the moment. "Straight shooter" my left foot. He is a puppet for anyone who he considers "smart". Dumbest leader EVER not just of this country, but of any country in the entire world. Total disgrace.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
26. I think it was Wolff's book
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 11:22 AM
Aug 2019

that put it this way. trump's decisions and opinions are based on the last person he spoke to. Just look at how he was willing to support gun control reform. Then he spoke to Lapierre and all of a sudden we have enough gun control legislation.

Fox news knows this and they tailor their shows to get what they want.

When I read his tweets dehumanizing Jewish people, of course it was Miller. When he exclaimed he was the chosen one it came from the evilgelicans fundies. We know that trump needs constant praise and the fundies are more than willing to give it to him, to get what they want.

What their ultimate goal is to bring on the End Times they fervently preach about. Now think about how The fundie prophesies are to unfold to usher in their belief in the End Times. Israel being a central component. I suspect this comes from Pence repeatedly calling him the chosen one as a way to get what he wants. It doesn't matter to trump who praises him, as long as they do.

When there are 2 groups that are in direct conflict with each other, he lies to them both, to get what he wants. When there is one group, like Jewish people, who vote for Democrats he degrades and dehumanizes them. This is his effort to get the groups that praise him to galvanize their support of him and elevate their praise.

Each round of this ups the ante. It is easy to spot, when you see what he is doing.

I noticed the pattern is the republican primary debates. Several republicans would start holding trump's feet to the fire. trump would drop a few select bombs (usually lies) about a rival and then the rest would start fighting amongst themselves. trump would lean back and smile. For him, creating division is how he creates wealth and power for himself.


Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. My Jewish doctor is too.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 07:16 AM
Aug 2019

I will never forget his bumper sticker (on his Volkswagen) "Recall Walker" during the Wisconsin uproar about Scott Walker.

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
8. Fun fact: Cheeto did slightly better than Robmey with all major groups
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:49 PM
Aug 2019
Except Jewish voters.

They know a fascist when they see one.

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
10. Sad but true.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:59 PM
Aug 2019

I suppose they like hearing Cheeto endorse every Likudnik excess and abuse Bibi comes up with on any given day.

Is that the kind of Israel they want? Led by a thug?

I dare say most Jews around the world don't.

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
17. +1
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:29 PM
Aug 2019

All the more so because the direct beneficiary of his assassination is still in the saddle today.



IronLionZion

(45,440 posts)
11. The Jewish people have a very memorable history with Russia
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:06 PM
Aug 2019

that involved pogroms and immigrating to America or Israel

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
15. +1
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:24 PM
Aug 2019

One of my great-grandmothers was a Russian Jew.

She was 13 when her family was forced off their land at gunpoint and bayonets (the Tsar was still in power). Remember the eviction scene in Fiddler on the Roof?; I was told it was very much like that - but far more brutal.

For the 73 remaining years in her life, she never quite healed from the trauma.

I see the same kind of opportunistic brutality today, in the way Cheeto treats Central Americans. I strongly suspect he'd do the same to every other group he - and his Chumpkins - dislike, if he could.

IronLionZion

(45,440 posts)
16. He's already using that language by claiming Jewish Dems are disloyal
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:26 PM
Aug 2019

This is not how it begins. This is many steps along the way.

sandensea

(21,633 posts)
18. Well put.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:31 PM
Aug 2019

All the more so because - as the fat bastard knows so well - most of his Chumpkins believe every ethnic/religious minority in this country is "disloyal."

"They don't look or act American," as many put it.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
21. Trump thinks Jewish people owe him and should be grateful to him over the Embassy move to Jerusalem
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:55 AM
Aug 2019

the fact they still wont support him and people like NAdler and Schiff who are going after him are Jewish is pissing him off . "after all i did for you" .

he was already an anti semite but he wanted everyone to behave like Kanye with him even though he is a racist that hates black people.

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