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IdealsAndReal42

(89 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:26 AM Aug 2019

Ending the far right populism in the Western World.

How to make it?
I 'd like to know your feelings about it.
IMO, it goes by reaching back to the lower middle class, what was used to be called the workers class, before mass Western loss of industrial jobs and its transformation into service based economy.
Let's look at the Yellow Vest movement following Macron policies and Le Pen surge , the Brexit, Salvini in Italy and of course Trump.
All of this political disasters have a nearly twin background that let them to unfold.
Mass resentment, economical... and cultural sense of insecurity.
However, the Western left parties choose to ignore it, and even pretended it didn't exist.
In the pivotal moment when industrial societies begun to vanish, left politicians focused on a promising new base, the people who were other than white and who worshipped other than Christianity.
Also, although as it was totally common decency to aknowledge Western worlds most horrific sins, such as slavery, wars, colonization, racism as rule of law, the self contrition has turned into a global finger pointing to anyone who doesn't fit into any box of progressism. By this, I mean, not only being white and poor, but also living in unglobalized areas (deep contrysides, unemployed stricken middle sized towns), sharing sense of belonging to a local place, not having a lot of diplomas....
So those people felt they were basically told, undirectly, they had to pay their ancestors sins, and therefore no right to fully belong to the society anymore, and you cannot find any better fuel for mass ressentment.
So the best way is to aknowledge this resentment, and going back to those parts of society. Telling them they still matter and showing it by actions of reaching, like reinvest in public service and jobs in those stricken areas, would be the best way to avoid them to keep jumping into far right arms in despair.

What do you feel about?

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Ending the far right populism in the Western World. (Original Post) IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 OP
Right wing populists are using racism and/or economic ignorance to gain and retain power. LonePirate Aug 2019 #1
A London School of Economics paper that might interest you... Mike 03 Aug 2019 #2
Thanks for the link. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #3
Hong Kong too? Or is that something different? Mike 03 Aug 2019 #5
Well, Hong-Kong is different. IMO IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #7
This is a key question you raise Mike 03 Aug 2019 #4
You sum perfectly my thoughts. IdealsAndReal42 Aug 2019 #6

LonePirate

(13,428 posts)
1. Right wing populists are using racism and/or economic ignorance to gain and retain power.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019

The left could easily talk about the right’s use of racism; but the efforts have not been entirely successful and have been mixed at best. There has been even less success pushing back against the right using economic ignorance to grab power. Until the left starts scoring consistent victories on both fronts, right wing populism will continue unabated.

The likelihood of a hard Brexit may result in the British public waking up to how harmful right wing populism is. If that impact becomes global, I am not sure citizens of other countries will understand the causes of their Brexit-induced pain.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. A London School of Economics paper that might interest you...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:49 AM
Aug 2019

This paper by Michael McQuarrie at the London School of Economics indirectly is interested in some of the same factors you are, such as the building resentment in unglobalized rural areas, the alienation of the working class and their growing disconnectedness from any sense of belonging to a community. This paper might be too specific for what you are asking and are interested in, as it focuses specifically on the Rust Belt during the 2016 campaign, but your post reminded of it. You might find it interesting. It's a long read (about 45 pages) but directly focuses on what makes populations vulnerable to populism in the first place. Some of your factors are mentioned.

The Revolt of the Rust Belt: Place and Politics in the Age of Anger

These institutional arrangements both provided an avenue for the expression of the class
and communal ethos of Rust Belt constituencies, but also connected people to the Democratic
Party in ways that are far deeper and more meaningful than a candidate’s advertising. These
institutions limited the effect of Republican racial and nationalist appeals on white voters for
decades. But these institutions have decayed or, as in the case of unions, been intentionally
destroyed. The disembedding of Rust Belt voters made them newly available to the Republican
Party. The event that tipped them so decisively into the Republican column was the emergence
of a Republican candidate that was hostile to the political class that had silenced the Rust Belt as
it was dismantled and challenged the terms of partisan debate that had ensured the destruction of
the Rust Belt. Finally, the fact that black voters in the Rust Belt rejected Hillary Clinton allows
us to see the Rust Belt Revolt for what it was: the rejection of a candidate and a party that had
organized itself to be unconcerned about the plight of the region. The Democrats succumbed to a
regional working-class revolt.


Link to download site:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320273178_The_Revolt_of_the_Rust_Belt_Place_and_Politics_in_the_Age_of_Anger

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Hong Kong too? Or is that something different?
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:03 AM
Aug 2019

You are asking, IMO, one of the two or three most important questions of our time. So thank you for raising it in a serious way. People often neglect to discuss how much has been taken away from particular groups.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. This is a key question you raise
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 10:02 AM
Aug 2019

Am I being too simplistic to propose that, putting aside the "horrific sins" of the west for a second, human beings seem to have a need to belong to something (church, union, to feel close to others) and when you take away too many of these, or sometimes all of it, they will reach out to whatever group will have them. Add to that the aggressive approach populism takes to targeting alienated people... Could it be that simple?

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