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packman

(16,296 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:50 AM Aug 2019

Unpaid coal miners block train loaded with 1million $ worth of coal


Chris Rowe, 35, a coal miner who used to work for the bankrupt company Blackjewel, poses at the railway blockade protesting for unpaid wages outside of the Blackjewel mining complex in Cumberland, Ky


More than 1,100 miners in Kentucky, Wyoming, West Virginia and Virginia lost their jobs with no warning. They didn't get paid for their last week of work, and their paycheques from the previous two weeks bounced.

So when the miners got word that Blackjewel was quietly shipping a trainload of coal, worth at least $1 million US, out of Black Mountain — coal the miners took out of the ground — they decided to take matters into their own hands.


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/unpaid-kentucky-coal-miners-have-been-blocking-a-train-track-for-3-weeks-1.5253199
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Unpaid coal miners block train loaded with 1million $ worth of coal (Original Post) packman Aug 2019 OP
Pretty black and white indictment of our bankruptcy laws. pecosbob Aug 2019 #1
Seriously. blm Aug 2019 #26
Awesome pic FakeNoose Aug 2019 #2
Good! I hope they block it forever. calimary Aug 2019 #3
This has been going on for three weeks? I guess David Koch was too sick to 3Hotdogs Aug 2019 #4
"Salt of the Earth". Try... zentrum Aug 2019 #5
Hang in there, guys. You were lied to up one side and down the other. nt Hekate Aug 2019 #6
They could call up some farmers for people to commiserate with. notdarkyet Aug 2019 #27
Good for them!! Bayard Aug 2019 #7
Won't likely do them much good as secured creditors are paid first. Employee wages are near the alwaysinasnit Aug 2019 #25
I find this story very encouraging. kentuck Aug 2019 #8
My appreciation and thanks saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #9
where is trump? Tennessee Hillbilly Aug 2019 #10
Trump would be more likely Kaiserguy Aug 2019 #15
Does trump have any authority to force the company hughee99 Aug 2019 #38
Surely he can if he can order companies to stop doing business with China. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #43
this is what we ALL need to do .... throwthe_shoe Aug 2019 #11
Is there a GoFundMe page for food and coffee for these gentlemen???? JAD Aug 2019 #12
DUers did this for Camp Crawford Generic Other Aug 2019 #57
Hopefully... paleotn Aug 2019 #13
Exactly! Duppers Aug 2019 #14
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #32
Yes hopefully.. mountain grammy Aug 2019 #36
The majority probably voted for "Him." demosincebirth Aug 2019 #56
Lol, the judge asked for a court order needs time to think about it. Hortensis Aug 2019 #16
I'll bet these coal miners live from paycheck to paycheck. patphil Aug 2019 #24
Good for them! Trump will call in the Pinkerton's probably. Workers need to theophilus Aug 2019 #17
Brave miners, in more ways than one. democrank Aug 2019 #18
But they will still vote for their hero Benedict Donald. Really it's Fox News and FB and other Pepsidog Aug 2019 #19
Probably true... kentuck Aug 2019 #21
How do we begin to restore sanity to much of rural America when they really are brainwashed? Pepsidog Aug 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author emmaverybo Aug 2019 #52
Love the way the thread posts start out sympathetic and then end up essentially insulting the emmaverybo Aug 2019 #53
Sympathy, anger, betrayal are all emotions evoked when reading this story. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #55
Of course they will vote for the orange turd. warmfeet Aug 2019 #39
Yes, they will. because us libruls are ripping them off. Remember that. lindysalsagal Aug 2019 #58
And taking all their stuff and giving it away to illegal immigrants. Pepsidog Aug 2019 #59
How are those Trump votes workin' for ya? ooky Aug 2019 #20
Did they finally get tired of all the winning? ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #23
How many of them voted for maga? They can eat their hats NightWatcher Aug 2019 #28
they don't want to "make this political" orleans Aug 2019 #51
too bad. if they had supported Hillary....... Takket Aug 2019 #29
Hate has consequences. Boomerproud Aug 2019 #35
If only they would think rationally BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #41
And green jobs won't give them black lung. Why don't they understand?? SunSeeker Aug 2019 #47
I think many are purposely ignorant or are too "stuck" mentally. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #48
The song by Tennessee Ernie Ford is drifting through my mind right now. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #30
Here is a different version: kentuck Aug 2019 #31
WOW, just WOW. Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #33
Thanks for posting that!! NBachers Aug 2019 #49
Great version ... but a ridiculously over-edited video ... had to just listen and not watch ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #54
K&R real Cannabis calm Aug 2019 #34
Moscow Mitch ran against "Obama's war on coal" and won re-election Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2019 #37
They called on Moscow Mitch and he gave them about a minute before ducking out. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #44
Hit 'em where it hurts! Initech Aug 2019 #40
They won't connect the dots. Hillary was honest with them, but they are still suckers for the Con. Marcuse Aug 2019 #42
Well, stupid is as stupid says. n/t PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #45
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2019 #46
K&R ck4829 Aug 2019 #50

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
1. Pretty black and white indictment of our bankruptcy laws.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 10:55 AM
Aug 2019

Last edited Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit* the shirt says it all, like the poster below noted.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
4. This has been going on for three weeks? I guess David Koch was too sick to
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:30 AM
Aug 2019

hire goons to get their asses out of there.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. "Salt of the Earth". Try...
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 11:41 AM
Aug 2019

...to see the blacklisted Documentary by that name. From 1954 I think. An amazing true story using actors who were actually part of the strike.

Salt of the Earth.

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
25. Won't likely do them much good as secured creditors are paid first. Employee wages are near the
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:34 PM
Aug 2019

bottom of the priority list. If they are lucky they might get a low percentage of what they are owed.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
8. I find this story very encouraging.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:48 PM
Aug 2019

This is not political for these workers. It is between the Company and the Union.

The Coal Company thought they could slip a train out on that one rail when no one was looking. And sell that coal without paying the miners.

I was born and raised 20-30 miles from Cumberland and I stand with the miners.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
9. My appreciation and thanks
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:49 PM
Aug 2019

to all the coal miners who stand together for fair wages, safer conditions in the mines, removal of coal dust or protection for miners breathing it.

10. where is trump?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:53 PM
Aug 2019

I saw this story several weeks ago. According to what I read at that time, some of the miners were hoping that Trump would intervene and force the company to pay them.

keithbvadu2

(36,796 posts)
43. Surely he can if he can order companies to stop doing business with China.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:48 PM
Aug 2019

Surely he can if he can order companies to stop doing business with China.

 

throwthe_shoe

(26 posts)
11. this is what we ALL need to do ....
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

to get things in this country back for ALL of us... and not just for coal but for all the crookedness from business and POLITICS. because elections don't work well and can be rigged and bought off.. pitchforks and torches... they cannot beat us when we ALL stand up... but they can when we as a group are WILLFULLY IGNORANT........... GO GUYS SHOW US HOW IT IS DONE

JAD

(187 posts)
12. Is there a GoFundMe page for food and coffee for these gentlemen????
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

I would like to buy those miners sandwiches, pizzas, coffee, soda.... whatever they want......

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
57. DUers did this for Camp Crawford
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 12:26 PM
Aug 2019

"Our community and our nation has shown us tremendous support by sending us things. We have a local Pizza Hut bringing us pizza, people calling from Chicago, Alabama, Atlanta, Texas making orders for us and having them delivered to us," Willig said.

"Our local Chinese restaurant brought us food. A local Mexican restaurant brought us food. CSX, which is the train operator that loads the coal, was totally supportive of us. ... It's just been a tremendous overall experience. We didn't think that it was going to get this big."

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
13. Hopefully...
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 12:56 PM
Aug 2019

many will realize that when politicians say they support coal, particularly those on the right, they mean they support coal companies not workers. And with the current resident, they're simply marks to be conned. It should be obvious to anyone with two neurons he's done nothing to help miners.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. +1000
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:17 PM
Aug 2019

Exactly. The republicans never have and never will give a damn about the average worker. It's too bad so many of them are so loyal to the party that despises them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Lol, the judge asked for a court order needs time to think about it.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:01 PM
Aug 2019
Lexington Herald Leader: As angry coal miners continued to block a set of railroad tracks in Harlan County Friday, the miners’ former employer, Blackjewel LLC., sought a court order to let a disputed coal train pass through the blockade.

Frank Volk, a judge in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of West Virginia, did not make a final ruling on that request, but asked for another hearing within 10 to 14 days to continue the discussion.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article234307937.html

patphil

(6,173 posts)
24. I'll bet these coal miners live from paycheck to paycheck.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:02 PM
Aug 2019

If they had any savings, that's probably gone now.
They are now incurring debt via credit cards and personal loans, both of which have high interest rates.
Just getting what is owed them will still leave them with a lot of debt that could take them years to pay off.
Even winning compensation in court will still leave them jobless in an industry that is rapidly shrinking, regardless of Trump's absurd claim that he will bring back coal.
It's going to be a tough road ahead for these guys; middle class hard working men who just want to provide for their families.
I hope they're wise enough to realize that Trump doesn't care about them.

Patrick Phillips

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
17. Good for them! Trump will call in the Pinkerton's probably. Workers need to
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:12 PM
Aug 2019

unite against the Republican Planet Killers.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
19. But they will still vote for their hero Benedict Donald. Really it's Fox News and FB and other
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:29 PM
Aug 2019

vehicles for misinformation that cause these people to believe in what Republicans have been selling them for years. Instead of voting for Democrats they will continue to vote for Rs. You see Russia’s plan to divide us and then come to the rescue with a $200 million dollar investment in an aluminum plant that will guarantee these no minds continue to vote for Republicans.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
21. Probably true...
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:33 PM
Aug 2019

It is odd how they are able to compartmentalize their vote for Donald Trump in a different compartment than their fight with the Coal Company for refusing to pay them what they are owed? They do not see the direct connection.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
22. How do we begin to restore sanity to much of rural America when they really are brainwashed?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:45 PM
Aug 2019

A truly transformational president in the nature of a Roosevelt is really our only chance. Imagine for a moment that Trump was not the mad king. I always said a great progressive president would be a combination of Trumps balls and Obama’s brains, or a Elizabeth Warren or Harris President.

Response to Pepsidog (Reply #22)

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
53. Love the way the thread posts start out sympathetic and then end up essentially insulting the
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 03:06 AM
Aug 2019

miners and saying “ya got what ya deserved.”

Oh, the irony.


Fix the damage, Joe
The world needs you

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
39. Of course they will vote for the orange turd.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:37 PM
Aug 2019

They hate, hate, hate "liberals." They hate the ones that want to give them a better life. The irony is surreal.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
23. Did they finally get tired of all the winning?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 01:45 PM
Aug 2019

Don't they know their blockade is distinctly unAmerican? Damned socialists!

orleans

(34,051 posts)
51. they don't want to "make this political"
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 02:59 AM
Aug 2019

"the miners say they aren't going to be pawns in anybody's political propaganda."

so i guess they'll be voting for trump and mcconnell again

morons

Takket

(21,565 posts)
29. too bad. if they had supported Hillary.......
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:43 PM
Aug 2019

by now they would have gone through the high skill training she wanted to implement and have a better paying, safer job in an industry that wasn't a dead end relic that the energy industry has almost no interest in anymore.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
41. If only they would think rationally
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:54 PM
Aug 2019

and face reality. Those jobs are not coming back. Reeducate and train for the zillion new jobs related to saving the planet and fighting Climate Change.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
48. I think many are purposely ignorant or are too "stuck" mentally.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 01:44 AM
Aug 2019

I know I had to go back to college and get another degree when I faced reality and realized I couldn't support myself. Life sucks but you deal with it. For centuries people either moved or retrained for money to support themselves and/or their families. That was the norm, no big deal really. What is their problem?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
30. The song by Tennessee Ernie Ford is drifting through my mind right now.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:05 PM
Aug 2019

You load 16 tons,
What do you get ?
Another day older,
And deeper in debt.
St. Peter don't you call me,
'Cause I can't go.
I owe my soul to the company store.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
54. Great version ... but a ridiculously over-edited video ... had to just listen and not watch ...
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 03:52 AM
Aug 2019

Was feeling like I might have a seizure or something ...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,343 posts)
37. Moscow Mitch ran against "Obama's war on coal" and won re-election
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 05:59 PM
Aug 2019

Have the miners called on Moscow Mitch for help? How many voted for him and now regret it?

keithbvadu2

(36,796 posts)
44. They called on Moscow Mitch and he gave them about a minute before ducking out.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 09:53 PM
Aug 2019

They called on Moscow Mitch and he gave them about a minute before ducking out.

Marcuse

(7,480 posts)
42. They won't connect the dots. Hillary was honest with them, but they are still suckers for the Con.
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 08:43 PM
Aug 2019
"We all agreed when we first started that we're not going to make this political and we're not aiming this at politicians. This is between workers and an employer. Nothing to do with politics," Willis said — a point he reiterated several times throughout the interview.
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