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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:39 AM Aug 2019

Trump's presence was tantamount to having Putin himself in the room

Trump Went to the Mat for Putin at the G-7 Summit
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trump-putin-russia-g7-summit.html

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In a press conference, Trump testified that, before his capricious expulsion, Putin was a loved and valued member of the elite group. “I heard he was a great member of the G8 … People feel very much like me, many people.” He lamented the meetings weren’t of much use without Putin getting to participate. (“We had a lot of things that we were discussing and it would’ve been very easy if Russia was in the room. If he was in the room, we could’ve solved those things.”)

And Trump expressed confidence that Russia would accept an invitation to return — “I know one thing: if they were invited back, I think they’d be there” — which is Trump’s way of saying Putin told him he would like to rejoin the group. (Putin and Trump have spoken repeatedly in secretive circumstances, concealing the contents of his discussions even from his own government.)

But what about Putin’s invasion, the reason he was kicked out in the first place? Trump bizarrely presented this as Barack Obama’s fault:

[Crimea] was sort of taken away from President Obama. Not taken away from President Trump, taken away from President Obama. … President Obama was not happy that this happened because it was embarrassing to him. Right. It was very embarrassing to him and he wanted Russia to be out of the, what was called the G8, and that was his determination. He was outsmarted by Putin. He was outsmarted. President Putin outsmarted President Obama.

Trump mentioned Obama 18 times, repeating his charge that his predecessor was to blame for Russia’s invasion of his neighbor. He repeatedly used the passive voice to describe Putin’s invasion: “It was sort of taken away from President Obama … It was annexed during President Obama’s term … Crimea was annexed during his term.” Putin got no blame for invading a neighbor. Instead Trump gave him credit for outsmarting Obama.

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Sources from inside the meeting tell the Post Trump’s presence was tantamount to having Putin himself in the room:

But having such a forceful advocate for an authoritarian leader inside the room of democracies profoundly shaped the overall tone of the summit, one senior official said.

“The consequence is the same as if one of the participants is a dictator,” the official said. “No community of like-minded leaders who are pulling together.”


Robert Mueller failed to establish a criminal conspiracy between Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia, thanks in part to the refusal of Paul Manafort and Roger Stone to cooperate with him. He never delved into the counterintelligence question of just how deep and compromising Trump’s ties to Russia run. Whatever the answer, it remains plain that Trump is deeply committed to advocating for the man who helped get him elected.

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Trump's presence was tantamount to having Putin himself in the room (Original Post) dajoki Aug 2019 OP
As long as Dolt 45 is in office there's no point in having G-whatever meetings. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #1
OMG. He's a shameless puppet and mouthpiece of Putin. Maven Aug 2019 #2

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
1. As long as Dolt 45 is in office there's no point in having G-whatever meetings.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:45 AM
Aug 2019

They can't get anything done with him (and effectively Putin) present, and in the end everybody is just frustrated and pissed off. They won't vote the US off the island because Trump will be gone someday - the sooner the better - but I hope they cancel next year's meeting if, God help us, he's still in office.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
2. OMG. He's a shameless puppet and mouthpiece of Putin.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:34 AM
Aug 2019

This whole "presidency" is an ongoing criminal conspiracy with our enemy.

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