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DDySiegs

(253 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:59 AM Aug 2019

Senator Isakson (R - Ga) to Resign -- GO STACEY

From Washington Post:

Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) said Wednesday that he will resign at the end of 2019, citing health problems.
Isakson, who is serving his third term, said in a statement that he has informed Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) of his decision, effective Dec. 31.

Stacey Abrams was so close to winning in her gubernatorial bid, should definitely take a shot at this seat! More important than being VP choice.

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Senator Isakson (R - Ga) to Resign -- GO STACEY (Original Post) DDySiegs Aug 2019 OP
"It won't be good for my health when angry mobs drag Trump-side Senators out onto the Mall. Bye!" struggle4progress Aug 2019 #1
Heh, heh, yep gratuitous Aug 2019 #3
Yes, since she is working on maintaining voting TrishaJ Aug 2019 #2
Good luck to the senator in his battle against Parkinson's Disease NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #4
I'm with you on this one padah513 Aug 2019 #14
+1 grantcart Aug 2019 #20
She won't do it. Unless something changes that isn't known themaguffin Aug 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Aug 2019 #6
Statement from her spokesperson: demmiblue Aug 2019 #7
I Hope she Reconsiders! DDySiegs Aug 2019 #9
She's just one more politician putting ambition before country. crazytown Aug 2019 #18
Um, what? Wednesdays Aug 2019 #32
Ambition for something else, whatever that is. The senate Hortensis Aug 2019 #33
What's the process in Georgia for replacing a sitting Senator? aggiesal Aug 2019 #8
The governor picks a replacement until the next federal election FBaggins Aug 2019 #11
So the governor will no doubt pick someone with an (R) next to the name ... aggiesal Aug 2019 #17
There will definitely be an R incumbent for the seat next year FBaggins Aug 2019 #21
Same Party rules can easily be worked around anyway Polybius Aug 2019 #23
It depends on the particulars FBaggins Aug 2019 #24
There is no such animal in GA. They're very serious about their Hortensis Aug 2019 #34
Sadly, she won't run for GA Senate. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #10
This is a shame that Stacey won't run. Ilsa Aug 2019 #12
Translation: sandensea Aug 2019 #13
He has advanced Parkinson's. grantcart Aug 2019 #19
Thanks for that... dhill926 Aug 2019 #27
I assume that they didn't know about the Parkinson's grantcart Aug 2019 #30
Here in Ga it will be hard to win with tRump on the ballot. ** MRDAWG Aug 2019 #15
there must be something really bad about running as a D senator in Georgia. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #16
Stacey is committed to "Fair Fight 2020". I'm behind her 100% State the Obvious Aug 2019 #22
update on that, she is now openly courting the VP slot, was on CNN with Don Lemon saying she would Celerity Aug 2019 #29
Go anybody who can inspire GA Democrats to go to the polls in waves DFW Aug 2019 #25
YES, WE CAN do this! nt State the Obvious Aug 2019 #26
How bout the female former Attorney General from Georgia Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #28
I don't think they've had a female AG in GA yet FBaggins Aug 2019 #31
Sally Yates DAMANgoldberg Aug 2019 #35
Abrams and Yates would have been a helluva duo. W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #36

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Heh, heh, yep
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:27 AM
Aug 2019

There's something significant here. Isakson isn't up for re-election until 2022, making the 2020 Senate map one seat worse for Republicans, and it was bad enough to begin with. Republican representatives taking it on the lam is nothing too noteworthy; they're not happy in the minority and having to go to work every day just to watch your caucus dragged is no fun at all.

But Republicans still have a Senate majority. Isakson isn't in the best health, but Strom Thurmond kept going until he was 100, despite not doing a damn thing besides being re-elected by South Carolina. Isakson didn't want to tough out the next 15 months until the 2020 election, and I think there's a reason for that beyond his health.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
2. Yes, since she is working on maintaining voting
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:20 AM
Aug 2019

rights, hopefully a Senate run will further put the spotlight on and expose the paperless and "no audit trail" sham of an election system in Georgia. I've never trusted the "election" results from the current voting machines. It's time to return real democracy to Georgia.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. Good luck to the senator in his battle against Parkinson's Disease
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:32 AM
Aug 2019

and, hopefully Abrams or somebody else can take his seat

padah513

(2,502 posts)
14. I'm with you on this one
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:23 PM
Aug 2019

I have no use for Repugs but I wish Senator Isakson the best. We can disagree without being disagreeable. Having said that however, go Stace!!! (Or somebody else)

Response to DDySiegs (Original post)

DDySiegs

(253 posts)
9. I Hope she Reconsiders!
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:13 PM
Aug 2019

With pressure from Dem big wigs (e. g. Schumer) and promises of financial support, maybe she can be convinced. Also no doubt the first Ga polls relating to this open seat will give those polled a chance to weigh in. If Georgians so polled show enthusiasm for Abrams, she might reconsider. Editorials from the Atlanta Constitution and other Ga papers favorable to her taking this on could also help.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Ambition for something else, whatever that is. The senate
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:51 PM
Aug 2019

is slow and deliberative. A lot of people want more active offices where they're not one of 100 with advancement years in the future. But in these dangerous times should anyone refuse the call of a high duty? I'm with Crazytown. She could always seek another office in 6 years, or even less. I was disappointed in her before and said so and still am.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
8. What's the process in Georgia for replacing a sitting Senator?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:08 PM
Aug 2019

1) Is there a special election?
2) Does the governor or other elected body get to hand pick a replacement?
3) Any other option?
. . .

FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
11. The governor picks a replacement until the next federal election
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:16 PM
Aug 2019

IIRC, GA doesn't require the governor to pick someone of the same party, but that wouldn't come into play in this case.

So there will be two Senate seats up next year... then this seat will be up again in 2022 for a full 6-year term.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
17. So the governor will no doubt pick someone with an (R) next to the name ...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

for the 2020 calendar year, and have that person run as an incumbent for
the special election in 2020, then run permanently in 2022.

It could be a hard row to hoe for anyone with a (D) next to there name.

FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
21. There will definitely be an R incumbent for the seat next year
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:18 PM
Aug 2019

Sure... that's less than an easy pickup.

However - it's still one more seat that is a possible pickup. The Purdue was at least hypothetically in play (though clearly favoring Purdue), and this one should be even more competitive. It allows out top two candidates to each go for a seat rather than picking at each other.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
23. Same Party rules can easily be worked around anyway
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:22 PM
Aug 2019

For example, if a Republican resigns and the Democratic governor has to pick a Republican, all he or she would have to do is pick the biggest Rino they could find. Someone registered as a Republican but is liberal on all positions. Then they are free to switch Parties after the election.

FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
24. It depends on the particulars
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:30 PM
Aug 2019

In some cases, the "same party" rule is enforced by that party naming three options and the governor must pick from those three.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. There is no such animal in GA. They're very serious about their
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 04:55 PM
Aug 2019

socioreligious cultural conservatism and libertarian economics down here and smiled with real approval that Brian Kemp's fascistic election theft tactics kept the government solidly Republican.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
12. This is a shame that Stacey won't run.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:20 PM
Aug 2019

Isakson is the better of the two senators. He's older and at least is slightly more decent acting than most of the other Rs from Georgia.

I fear Doug Collins, a real asshole from north GA in the House, with some seniority, will run.

We need leaders in GA. Our governor is a cheating prick.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
13. Translation:
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:21 PM
Aug 2019

Someone's got photos of him with a bed-full of escorts, and a plateful of Viagra on the night-table.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
30. I assume that they didn't know about the Parkinson's
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 02:54 PM
Aug 2019


Most people know about the terrible tremors of Parkinson's but many don't know that over half of Parkinson's patients eventually develop some form of dementia with many suffering from hallucinations before the dementia becomes prominent.

A terrible mix of symptoms.

I wish him well. His mind is going to exact a terrible punishment.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
16. there must be something really bad about running as a D senator in Georgia.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

abrams and yates have said no. both could win imo

State the Obvious

(842 posts)
22. Stacey is committed to "Fair Fight 2020". I'm behind her 100%
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:19 PM
Aug 2019

I am behind Stacey's FOCUSED commitment to fair elections. That is why she has started https://fairfight.com/fair-fight-2020/

She would make an excellent senator, but she also knows what needs to be done first. She's 2 steps ahead of us on this one. Think of this:

How could she be elected senator (I would like that to happen eventually) when the legitimacy of Georgia's electoral process is in question?

Yes, I am a Californian, but I am an AMERICAN FIRST! We need to be on UNITED on this one.

DONATE

Celerity

(43,343 posts)
29. update on that, she is now openly courting the VP slot, was on CNN with Don Lemon saying she would
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 02:40 PM
Aug 2019

very happy to be picked as VP.

I have said this all along, back from March when Steve Ricchetti and Mike Donilon, two of Biden's most powerful advisers first floated that trial balloon about a pre-cooked ticket (which was quickly retracted and then semi-denied.)


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/us/politics/joe-biden-2020-election.html

snip

But none would carry the impact of naming a running mate early or vowing to serve just one term.

Two of Mr. Biden’s closest advisers, Steve Ricchetti and Mike Donilon, have floated both possibilities in recent weeks. And they have been egged on by some Democratic lawmakers, who have urged the Biden associates to strongly consider the one-term pledge to immediately defuse the question about his age.

Mr. Donilon has also, though not recently, discussed the general concept with Mark Salter, who was John McCain’s chief of staff and unsuccessfully lobbied Mr. McCain to make a similar vow when he ran for president at the age of 72 in 2008, according to people familiar with the conversation. “It was about country first,” said Mr. Salter, recalling Mr. McCain’s slogan. “Biden could do the same thing now with the country in even more desperate straits.” (Mr. Salter did not recall discussing the matter with Mr. Donilon.)

But Mr. Biden is uneasy with the prospect of pledging up front not to seek re-election, believing that it would make him a lame-duck president before he even takes office and cripple his ability to get anything done, according to some of his aides. He is more open to the idea of picking a vice president well before the customary time frame, which would be around the party’s nominating convention next year.

Some of his top advisers, speaking on the condition of anonymity, believe that naming a running mate before he is the nominee could not only mollify voters concerned about his age but also send a message about the sort of administration he would put in place. They have been interested in this strategy on and off for months, and CNN recently reported the conversations were stirring again. With a younger but still accomplished vice-presidential nominee at his side, Mr. Biden could hope to demonstrate his commitment to diversity and to restoring stability to Washington.

Among the people Mr. Biden’s close allies have discussed for the role are Stacey Abrams, the former Georgia House minority leader who narrowly lost a race for governor last year, and Ms. Harris and Mr. O’Rourke, if their campaigns appear to flag in the coming months.

snip




Stacey Abrams Says She’s Open to Being Vice President for Any Democratic Nominee

Ms. Abrams, who announced this week that she would not run for president, told The New York Times that she would be “honored to be considered” for vice president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/us/politics/stacey-abrams-vice-president.html

Stacey Abrams made it official this week that she would not seek the presidency after months of speculation among Democrats, becoming one of the most prominent party leaders to pass on the 2020 race. But in an interview Tuesday night, she said she was open to being considered for the No. 2 spot by “any nominee.”

Ms. Abrams, who drew national attention during her unsuccessful run for governor of Georgia last year, said that she would focus her next year on identifying and stemming voter suppression efforts throughout the country, a major priority for her for years, instead of running for president or the Senate.

But she has remained close to the presidential race, meeting privately with several candidates and topping lists of potential vice presidents.

On Tuesday, Ms. Abrams spoke to The New York Times about why she decided not to run for president, how she feels about the possibility of being on a 2020 ticket, and why Democrats should not shy away from the politics of identity.

snip


DFW

(54,370 posts)
25. Go anybody who can inspire GA Democrats to go to the polls in waves
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019

To the extent that the fraudulently programmed voting machines can't negate the popular will, and with voters informed to raise hell immediately and on the spot if the voting machine keeps giving an "erroneous" result when they make their choice, and demand that the machine in question be removed from service.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
28. How bout the female former Attorney General from Georgia
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 02:16 PM
Aug 2019

I can’t remember her name but she seemed very smart.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
35. Sally Yates
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:19 PM
Aug 2019

She has not confirmed or denied interest. The other race has Teresa Tomlinson, former mayor of Columbus, running against Perdue.

W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
36. Abrams and Yates would have been a helluva duo.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:20 PM
Aug 2019

And probably had a damn good shot at sweeping both Senate seats, even in Georgia, due to the even bigger blue wave that will be coming for Trump in 2020.

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