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Seems like every idiot I'm seeing on MSNBC this morning (Original Post) Mr.Bill Sep 2019 OP
What are the Afghans and the Talaban saying about the meeting? Sneederbunk Sep 2019 #1
More Americans will die after Trump abruptly ends Afghan talks, Taliban say progressoid Sep 2019 #15
Pathetic Isn't it montanacowboy Sep 2019 #2
Trump was furious that True Blue American Sep 2019 #4
I see it differently. madaboutharry Sep 2019 #3
Yep! Even if there is only a slight amount of truth to it, the press... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #7
Besides, it doesn't help Trump to be seen as wanting to bring the Taliban to Camp David so close to tblue37 Sep 2019 #12
There would be nothing wrong with them demanding proof it was going to happen. Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #8
Agree. triron Sep 2019 #18
The evidence Trump would offer would be a poster-sized visual aid marked up with a Sharpie. n/t John1956PA Sep 2019 #23
Agree. tRump is kind of a master at putting the press in a position where they somewhat have to KPN Sep 2019 #9
If the press is going to let him yelling "fake news" Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #13
um....nope Skittles Sep 2019 #21
and meanwhile, while the media waits for proof, it becomes the equivalent of not_the_one Sep 2019 #24
exactly Skittles Sep 2019 #25
The media play right into tRumps hands. Sad. Joe941 Sep 2019 #5
Was this Story created by Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #6
If Nance said it, it's probably correct. triron Sep 2019 #19
I don't believe anything this admin. or the scumbag presidents says period. Zip, zero, nada. NT SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #10
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Girard442 Sep 2019 #11
It's Easier To Believe... smb Sep 2019 #26
Shame on Joy and the rest, they've been providing the WP's running talley of his lies and they're mulsh Sep 2019 #14
Joy even? Jesus! triron Sep 2019 #20
It's cable news, there job is to make elections a close horse race for the sake of ratings Snake Plissken Sep 2019 #16
he has the media on a leash. spanone Sep 2019 #17
Trump said it was cancelled ?? kentuck Sep 2019 #22

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
15. More Americans will die after Trump abruptly ends Afghan talks, Taliban say
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019
The Islamist group issued a statement after Trump unexpectedly canceled secret talks planned for Sunday with the Taliban’s major leaders at the presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland. He broke off the talks on Saturday after the Taliban claimed responsibility for an attack in Kabul last week that killed an American soldier and 11 others.

Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, criticized Trump for calling off the dialogue and said U.S. forces have been pounding Afghanistan with attacks at the same time.

“This will lead to more losses to the U.S.,” he said. “Its credibility will be affected, its anti-peace stance will be exposed to the world, losses to lives and assets will increase.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan/taliban-says-trumps-decision-to-cancel-afghan-talks-will-mean-us-lives-lost-idUSKCN1VT05L

montanacowboy

(6,085 posts)
2. Pathetic Isn't it
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:48 PM
Sep 2019

anyone in their right mind that believes this fucking bullshit should take a long walk off a short pier

and I am so sick of the "normalization" of this POS, yes, right the Taliban were coming to dinner

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
4. Trump was furious that
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:54 PM
Sep 2019

The Obama Administration was negotiating with the Talibam but the Afghan Government was there,too.

But I do not believe there was any meeting planned. I think it is all in Trump’s mind.

Staff says he is like a bull seeing red in private. He is a raving maniac fearing he is going down.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
3. I see it differently.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:53 PM
Sep 2019

They don't have the reporting and information yet to call it out as a lie. For now, the responsible thing to do is to treat it at face value while journalist do the investigating into the meeting. If they uncover that this was a fabrication that Trump made up in his head on the fly, then they can tell us that.

In the meantime, I think it would be foolish for them to get on television and treat it as a lie. If it would turn out to be true, in some form, it would damage their own credibility and give Trump further fodder for his "fake news' bullshit. That may even have been his goal in the first place.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. Yep! Even if there is only a slight amount of truth to it, the press...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:00 PM
Sep 2019

will be crucified for calling it fake without evidence..

Let them find whatever there is about this "meeting" and tell us what they found.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
12. Besides, it doesn't help Trump to be seen as wanting to bring the Taliban to Camp David so close to
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:42 PM
Sep 2019

9/11, and to be negotiating a surrender to them while excluding the actual, supposedly U.S. supported, Afghan government (yet including Russia!). Whether the meeting was real or not, he looks bad either way, not to mention the whole blabbing about a sensitive "secret" meeting part.

Also, the idea of negotiating without even a cease-fire in pace looks really incompetent.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
8. There would be nothing wrong with them demanding proof it was going to happen.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:01 PM
Sep 2019

So far only Trump lackeys like Pompeo are being offered as proof. And it would also be legitimate to report on those doubting it, which they don't seem to be even mentioning.

They are totally normalizing it without any facts to back it up.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
9. Agree. tRump is kind of a master at putting the press in a position where they somewhat have to
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

normalize him -- though they could demand evidence. But even then, he'd just scream and ridicule them as "fake news" in answer to those questions. THere's no winning without pretty iron-clad proof of a lie frankly.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
13. If the press is going to let him yelling "fake news"
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:42 PM
Sep 2019

guide how they cover their stories, they might as well just close up shop and declare him president for life.

Fuck what he says. He doesn't have 1/1000th of the credibility that American journalism has, except with his knuckle-dragging worshippers.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
24. and meanwhile, while the media waits for proof, it becomes the equivalent of
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:58 PM
Sep 2019

Bill Barr's "summary" of Mueller's report becoming the "truth"...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Was this Story created by
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

Putin's Propaganda unit? Nance mentioned this was the next Propaganda move by the GRU in their efforts to protect Trump as well as their position in the White House.

triron

(22,002 posts)
19. If Nance said it, it's probably correct.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

Corporate media wants to play along with Trump, especially the weekend morons.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
11. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:41 PM
Sep 2019

If Trump claims to have built a nuclear-powered suit of armor that gives him the strength of 50 men and flies at supersonic speeds, we’re going to need more than a supporting statement from Pence to believe it.

smb

(3,471 posts)
26. It's Easier To Believe...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:56 PM
Sep 2019

...that he built such a suit in a cave using a box of scraps than it is to believe that he's schedule a meeting at Camp David instead of one of his properties where he can pocket the lion's share of the event budget.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
14. Shame on Joy and the rest, they've been providing the WP's running talley of his lies and they're
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:31 PM
Sep 2019

reporting this as if it were an actual potential event. What a bunch of unmitigated bullshit. Not one of them I saw this morning questioned the truth of this report. gad.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
16. It's cable news, there job is to make elections a close horse race for the sake of ratings
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:30 PM
Sep 2019

MSNBC was one of the first channels to legitimize Trump, every morning he would call in and they would give him a free hour infomercial.

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