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I never saw soldiers reach out to Dubya this way. (Original Post) Playinghardball Aug 2012 OP
Remember when W flew into Afghanistan for a thanksgiving howdy with the troops? southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #1
fake President with a fake turkey Raster Aug 2012 #2
Yes he was. Just think Mittens wants to take us back to that. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #3
mittens is just a more palatable (or so they think) version of ol' gee-dubya* Raster Aug 2012 #23
i hope people are paying attention. These mother f'ers want a war all the time. southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #42
The Military-Industrial Complex and our closeted war-based economy demand it! Raster Aug 2012 #43
A real turkey with a fake one silvershadow Sep 2012 #55
Or...a real turkey with a fake turkey. NT cognoscere Sep 2012 #57
The troops were underwhelmed with Poppy of Arabia, too: UTUSN Sep 2012 #53
They really reach out to their CIC.. Cha Aug 2012 #4
They're troops of every color, too. calimary Aug 2012 #16
Don't blame them malaise Aug 2012 #5
Of course not. Rmoney comes from five generations of chickenhawks - jerseygal Aug 2012 #6
Amazing isn't it malaise Aug 2012 #9
Good point. calimary Aug 2012 #17
Thats' right. Romney took our sons and daughters in uniform for granted Berlum Sep 2012 #46
"THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! FOR GETTING US OUT OF IRAQ!" zbdent Aug 2012 #7
They are wearing those "un-American" berets that Fox was on about jberryhill Aug 2012 #8
John Wayne wore a Green Beret...are they saying the Duke is a French fairy? rfranklin Aug 2012 #10
Um Pat Riot Aug 2012 #12
I know...he was a women beating right wing jerk... rfranklin Aug 2012 #15
Wayne's real first name was Marion. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #18
. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2012 #48
One reason they like this CiC is he got rid of the berets bigbrother05 Aug 2012 #33
No, it was General Shinseki.... Aviation Pro Aug 2012 #37
"headgear fiasco" jberryhill Sep 2012 #44
Here's feckless Commander AWOL Bush himself, sporting a beret and a 'stache Berlum Sep 2012 #47
The baseball caps were far better burnsei sensei Sep 2012 #51
One of the biggest complaints about the beret eyewall Sep 2012 #54
Maroon berets are airborne gejohnston Aug 2012 #38
I never tire of those pics!! And how can people say that the troops dislike the President?? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #11
There was a very badly done madamesilverspurs Aug 2012 #13
I was just going to post this!! thecrow Sep 2012 #56
Compare and contrast... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #21
Whoah, cool your jets... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #22
For the record... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #39
I heard the whole speech on cSPan 2day vlyons Aug 2012 #19
Wow! Thanks for sharing; I didn't see it. He's prepared, isn't he. Love it! nt babylonsister Sep 2012 #45
Michelle is there too and the soldiers know how she and Jill Biden lunatica Aug 2012 #20
to be fair to those who might not know how this works... WooWooWoo Aug 2012 #24
We got voluntold as a platoon when Bush came through Benning... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #30
that sucks WooWooWoo Aug 2012 #32
Early 07 I think... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #41
I remember reading that during Bush's time, the audience was mandatory. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #35
Thanks for explaining that! n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #34
My Army never "asked" me to do shit. Mine ordered. Nt DevonRex Aug 2012 #36
The BIGGEST news got BURIED pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #25
cool razsmith01 Aug 2012 #26
You won't see any of Mitt's spawn there. formercia Aug 2012 #27
Rude Awakening chuckstevens Aug 2012 #28
They're no fools. Rozlee Sep 2012 #52
So we are at war Barry2012 Aug 2012 #29
What is interesting is that President Obama does not need to have his name and title madinmaryland Aug 2012 #31
Hmmm. Let's see. Who else used digitally altered photos to lie to America? gateley Aug 2012 #40
hurry doa2627 Sep 2012 #49
compare that to... kag Sep 2012 #50
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
1. Remember when W flew into Afghanistan for a thanksgiving howdy with the troops?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:43 PM
Aug 2012

The faker was taking pictures around troops and he was holding the fake turkey on a platter? That was so funny.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
23. mittens is just a more palatable (or so they think) version of ol' gee-dubya*
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:21 PM
Aug 2012

many of the same miscreants and cretins that surrounded cheney*/bush* are just hoping for mitt to win so they can slither back into D.C.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
43. The Military-Industrial Complex and our closeted war-based economy demand it!
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:55 PM
Aug 2012

I say closeted war-based economy because no one in power on either side want to talk about the concent of eternal war. Unfortunately, we've offshored most of our manufacturing base. One of the few still made-in-America industries is our War, Weapons and Death industries. And we will sell pretty much to the highest bidder.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
16. They're troops of every color, too.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:45 PM
Aug 2012

I love photos like these - close up and the wide shot. That reception looks pretty sincere, unlike some I saw when dubya was prancing around military bases.

This man never served, either. But he's got more compassion and respect for our troops, and has paid more attention to their issues, than any of his GOP predecessors I can think of at the moment.

And frankly, I don't think ANY president serves our troops OR cares about their issues - who insists on sending them to an unnecessary and fabricated war for ulterior motives about which he never once was honest, unnecessarily putting their lives in danger and squandering American good will around the world.

jerseygal

(67 posts)
6. Of course not. Rmoney comes from five generations of chickenhawks -
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:10 PM
Aug 2012

None of them served and his great grandfather left the United States because he did not want to live under its laws - wanted them sister wives.

Romney was for the Vietnam War as long as someone else was fighting it and he could hide out in France converting the French to Mormonism. I guess with the French tradition of wonderful wine and liquers, he wasn't too successful.
None of those 5 strapping sons of his ever served in the military.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
9. Amazing isn't it
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:17 PM
Aug 2012

and he said his sons were working on his campaign so not one of them was enlisting to fight in Ira or Afghanistan.

He really has a sense of entitlement - must think he's fugging royalty or some other such shite.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
46. Thats' right. Romney took our sons and daughters in uniform for granted
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 06:31 AM
Sep 2012

Willard failed to acknowledge them. But he and his Republican chicken hawk cronies are eager to USE THEM as cannon fodder to enrich themselves and bring on Arma-freakin-geddon.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
7. "THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! FOR GETTING US OUT OF IRAQ!"
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012

Probably not what they said, but enough of them probably thought it ...

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
10. John Wayne wore a Green Beret...are they saying the Duke is a French fairy?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:19 PM
Aug 2012

Whoa, take 'er easy there, Pilgrim"

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
15. I know...he was a women beating right wing jerk...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:44 PM
Aug 2012

but I brought it up because he is one of the right wings idols.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
33. One reason they like this CiC is he got rid of the berets
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:15 PM
Aug 2012

GWB had seen the black berets the Airborne guys wore and probably remembered the elite Green Berets from watching the movie, so he mandated that all troops wear them as their standard headgear. Black was for the normal troops, the Airborne guys went to the wine colored ones and the Special Forces kept their green ones. The Airborne and Special Forces guys were pissed at losing their special hats and the rest of the soldiers were pissed to have to figure out how to keep the berets on right and they creased their foreheads to boot.

When PBO put them back in the billed caps, there was a great sigh of relief heard throughout the regular Army troops. The caps are much more practical and look better too. Was working on a base when it happened and there was a visible smile on everyone's face that day.

Aviation Pro

(12,165 posts)
37. No, it was General Shinseki....
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:33 PM
Aug 2012

...that made that decision mandating that the black beret be taken away from the Ranger Regiment and made the Army-wide headgear. (The Rangers adopted the tan beret as a distinctive unit headgear). When a group of former Rangers marched from Ft. Benning to Washington D.C. to try and persuade McClown to overturn the decision, they were met with a polite refusal and Shinseki's decision stood.

The 82nd Airborne and XVIII Airborne Corps retained the maroon beret during this whole headgear fiasco.

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
51. The baseball caps were far better
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:19 AM
Sep 2012

because they kept the sun off of your face.
More practical given the theaters we've been in over the past decade.
And more practical everywhere.
Berets should only be part of a class A, and should be an option, like the flying saucer.

eyewall

(674 posts)
54. One of the biggest complaints about the beret
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 01:20 PM
Sep 2012

among the regular Army was that it took two hands to put on properly.
The caps only required one hand.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
38. Maroon berets are airborne
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

UnAmerican? Yeah, let some Fox clown go up to an Army airborne or Air Force pararescueman and actually say that to their face.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
11. I never tire of those pics!! And how can people say that the troops dislike the President??
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:21 PM
Aug 2012

I have yet to see any pics that support this. Those soldiers look thrilled, as does the President.

madamesilverspurs

(15,801 posts)
13. There was a very badly done
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:24 PM
Aug 2012

photoshop put out by the Bush people, ostensibly showing a crowd of soldiers listening to Bush (or Cheney, or somebody else from the admin). They captured a group of a few soldiers and repeated it over and over and over, fully expecting that nobody would notice. Of course, everyone noticed. If memory serves, it was the first thing people noticed.

Genuine rapport with troops, not something President Obama has ever had to fake.

found it:
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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #14)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. Whoah, cool your jets...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:18 PM
Aug 2012

I just did a google pic search and found the pic. Being that it was on the guardian, I didnt bother to read the article, as they were usually pretty tough on Shrub. I didn't know it was a fluff piece. I just wanted a pic to show how the troops were generally ignoring him and contrasting it to the warm reception that Obama usually get. I am in no way a Bush worshipper.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
39. For the record...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:45 PM
Aug 2012

I did not alert on the post that was removed- I have pretty thick skin. Plus, it was just a misunderstanding, and I can see how it happened. I didn't realize the article praised Bush, I just noticed the picture.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
19. I heard the whole speech on cSPan 2day
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:58 PM
Aug 2012

POTUS gave a masterful speech. He made special acknowledgements to the enlisted officers as the backbone of the army. He knew the names of all the units and named historical military accomplishments of units in past wars. He knew the names of soldiers who died in service. And he reiterated that as commander in chief he means what he says and keeps his word. 2/3rds of soldiers deployed in the middle east are now home.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. Michelle is there too and the soldiers know how she and Jill Biden
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:02 PM
Aug 2012

work for them to get jobs and be taken care of when they come home.

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
24. to be fair to those who might not know how this works...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:25 PM
Aug 2012

You volunteer to go see the president when he comes to do an event like this. Your unit doesn't make you go. Everyone there is there because they support him.

When he came last year to my base I was given the option of going to see him. I wanted to go, but I had to decline because I was going on leave that day and had to go....but I would have jumped at the opportunity.

Even if I had to stand in the hanger for four hours on lockdown prior to his arrival and not leave until he was up in the air. It would have been worth it.

 

Mmm_Bacon

(58 posts)
30. We got voluntold as a platoon when Bush came through Benning...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:30 PM
Aug 2012

Though a quick google image search pops up pictures of smiling troops reaching out to him as well.

The photo isn't indicative of anything. If you care, you go and push your way to the front. If you don't you stand at the back and wait for the truck.

PS. Bush did have soft hands like a woman. He must moisturize like a mofo....

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
32. that sucks
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:36 PM
Aug 2012

what year did he come there? If it was in the middle of the Iraq war, they might not have had enough guys to count on volunteers filling the hanger.

I think his hands were probably soft because he must purell the crap out of them with all the strangers a president has to shake hands with on a day to day basis.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
35. I remember reading that during Bush's time, the audience was mandatory.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 09:21 PM
Aug 2012

He often used the troops as props for various events. Very sad.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
25. The BIGGEST news got BURIED
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:25 PM
Aug 2012

In his speech, the President announced that he had just signed an Executive Order today to provide more resources, especially to support mental health services and outreach to troops and vets. More counselors are going to be hired, starting tomorrow.

CNN covered it live and should have a video up, and wh.gov is sure to have both video and transcript, as well as a press release.

Quite a contrast with Mitt's chickenhawk lip service last night!

formercia

(18,479 posts)
27. You won't see any of Mitt's spawn there.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:27 PM
Aug 2012

They are too important to risk their lives, serving in the Military.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
28. Rude Awakening
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:28 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe the troops are finally realizing that, while the GOP talks a really good game, it uses them as props and then cuts their benefits. Tell me: Who is going to be left to vote for the Republican party?

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
52. They're no fools.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:27 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt has said he'll send in troops to Syria and hinted he'll do the same in Iran. He's displeased with the draw down in Afghanistan. He's got the--to quote Romney--"Soviets" nervous by rattling the sabers for a new Cold War and Putin has announced needs for a defense build up as a result. And Romney's just a presidential candidate. These kids aren't interested in going into more wars after back-to-back tours. Our troops are exhausted from a decade of combat. We've got over a half million claims in the VA right now, it's estimated that almost half our troops suffer from some level of PTSD. Like the old saying goes: You and what Army?

 

Barry2012

(51 posts)
29. So we are at war
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:29 PM
Aug 2012

Seeing this reminds me folks, that what we have right now it's a war against the money and lies of the Gop.make no mistake this is a war.A war between the 99% and the 1%, this war will be won at the polls in november.we the people must not allow the 1% to take this country back to the bush years.we have come to far to loose this war now, the Gop is hellbent on creating the plutocracy they want.we all know since obama took office that's been the goal of the Gop, to destroy barack obama and finish off what bush started.On november vote, vote and bring your whole community with you also.I just got my wife registered and got her a fucking i.d too, we're not gonna let anything or anyone get in our way.We are going to vote and vote for obama.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
31. What is interesting is that President Obama does not need to have his name and title
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 08:32 PM
Aug 2012

stitched onto whatever he is wearing.


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