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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:21 PM Sep 2019

Trump team rushes to find escape hatch for China tariffs

Trump team rushes to find escape hatch for China tariffs



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/donald-trump-china-tariffs-1728369

President Donald Trump's top advisers are rushing to find an escape hatch for a series of tariff increases in the coming months, worried about the potential for further economic damage.

Many of the president's top economic officials are trying to resurrect the terms they previously were negotiating with China, a deal officials said was "90 percent" done before a sudden impasse this summer, according to a person familiar with the discussions.

That approach was rejected by the Chinese at the time, so it's unclear whether the new effort will overcome those hurdles and deliver U.S.-sought commitments from China on agriculture, intellectual property and technology transfer.

The goal of the internal administration discussions is to forestall October tariff increases and the next tariffs set to take effect in December, with some advisers arguing that the economic hit is real and must be mitigated prior to the election year. But the discussions remain fluid and Trump has yet to endorse an approach.
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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Interesting how
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:37 PM
Sep 2019

Chicken shit Donnie wants his reelection and his Tariff's all in one big gift. Remember,the third quarter ends at 4 pm EDT the 28 th of the month. Appears the panic is biting the President in his fat rear end.

Is Manuchin or Malvaney going to take the fall is this Tariff thing bites the dust? Sure as hell won't be Donnie of little smarts.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
4. maybe Republicans ought to demand that govt stop accommodating his dangerous impulses...
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:38 PM
Sep 2019

Put some reins on him.

Not gonna happen yet, though.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
7. Trump will never admit to making a mistake even after it's proven....
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:46 PM
Sep 2019

we've all suffered negative effects. Some say around a grand per citizen this year and close to double that next year. Christmas sales will suffer and farmers are hitting the rails.

How he can try to paint this as a win is anyone's guess, but we can bet he will......

Oh, and China does not give a shit.

Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
10. Perhaps we should end the era of Presidents having unilateral control over tariffs...
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019

There's a reason it was originally relegated to Congress in the Constitution.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. The Chinese have him by the short hairs and are not letting go.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:28 PM
Sep 2019

They come from a 3000 year old culture. While trump focuses on next week or at best November 2020, the Chinese think decades ahead.

They are getting the agricultural commodities they need at a good price from South America and Russia. And more and more of the things they make for us are finished in 3rd countries not affected by his tariffs.

His very nature offends their culture and they are going to fuck him sideways.

They will be tempted to make a deal with him because within 6 months he will be willing to give away the store to help with his re-election. But they won’t because they know if he gets a second term he will immediately go back on the deal. Because they plan ahead.

 

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
14. All the retailers have already ordered and taken delivery of the christmas stuff
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:48 PM
Sep 2019

So China can wait Trump out easily

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
16. Yep all they have to do is stall.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:53 AM
Sep 2019

What I suspect without knowing a damn thing about formal macroECON, is that the Christmas numbers will be ok, and everything will hold until spring....and then when peeps decide they can't afford a vacation this summer, the numbers drops will start to happen...just in time for summer general election campaigns to kick into high gear.

Donald Trump will die in prison.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,343 posts)
17. Dumbass Donnie got taken by Putin and Xi because he's a dumbass
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:19 AM
Sep 2019

Negotiate with what? How can you negotiate when you've already surrendered?

A con is an easy mark, especially an ignorant, narcissistic con like baby Donnie.

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